Dr. Michael Brown Asks

Introverted1293 · Jul 10, 2018

Do you believe persecuted Christians who have the ability to fight back should do so? For example, should Christians being slaughtered by Muslims be armed and trained to defend themselves?

I answered no at first. But I wanted to change my answer. But I don't know to be perfectly honest.

brinny · Jul 10, 2018

Introverted1293 said:
Do you believe persecuted Christians who have the ability to fight back should do so? For example, should Christians being slaughtered by Muslims be armed and trained to defend themselves?

I answered no at first. But I wanted to change my answer. But I don't know to be perfectly honest.

should Christians being slaughtered by Muslims be armed and trained to defend themselves?

Yes.

Of COURSE they should.

They are obliged to. They have families, little ones, pregnant wives.

It isn't a "sin".

To just sit there like a sitting duck glorifies no one, nor does it glorify God.

God doesn't give brownie points or golden stars to those who could've protected the defenseless, but chose not to.

Introverted1293 · Jul 10, 2018

brinny said:
Yes.

Of COURSE they should.

They are obliged to. They have families, little ones, pregnant wives.

It isn't a "sin".

To just sit there like a sitting duck glorifies no one, nor does it glorify God.

God doesn't give brownie points or golden stars to those who could've protected the defenseless, but chose not to.

Thank you so much for answering. I didn't think about their children and other future Generations that they would be protecting when they protect themselves. That is a very good point.

God bless you @brinny

brinny · Jul 10, 2018

Who is Dr. Michael Brown?

brinny · Jul 10, 2018

Introverted1293 said:
Thank you so much for answering. I didn't think about their children and other future Generations that they would be protecting when they protect themselves. That is a very good point.

God bless you @brinny

You are most welcome Jesse.

To defend the helpless and defenseless is a very self-less thing to do and it is very spiritually noble, and what God calls "wise-hearted".

All of the Godly men throughout the Bible were noble in this regard.

Introverted1293 · Jul 10, 2018

brinny said:
Who is Dr. Michael Brown?

He is a preacher and a commentator. He owns his own radio show. I will post one of his videos.

brinny · Jul 10, 2018

Introverted1293 said:
He is a preacher and a commentator. He owns his own radio show. I will post one of his videos.

Thanks. I'd like to hear it.

Introverted1293 · Jul 10, 2018

This is one of his videos.

brinny · Jul 10, 2018

Introverted1293 said:
This is one of his videos.

Thanks Jesse, watching it now.

Introverted1293 · Jul 10, 2018

brinny said:
Thanks Jesse, watching it now.

You're welcome.

JIMINZ · Jul 10, 2018

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brinny said:
Yes.

Of COURSE they should.

Hi Brinny
This is the first thing I have heard you say that I disagree with.

brinny said:
They are obliged to. They have families, little ones, pregnant wives.

Were the only ones who died in the first Church, only males of arms bearing age who died defending their families, fighting those who would kill them?

brinny said:
It isn't a "sin".

Doesn't it say somewhere, "Thou shalt not kill (do no murder) same thing.

Luke 22:49-51
49) When they which were about him saw what would follow, they said unto him, Lord, shall we smite with the sword?
50) And one of them smote the servant of the high priest, and cut off his right ear.
51) And Jesus answered and said, Suffer ye thus far. And he touched his ear, and healed him.

brinny said:
o just sit there like a sitting duck glorifies no one, nor does it glorify God.

Sorry Brinny but that is a judgment, how do we know it does not Glorify God,
your speaking out of yourself, with a mind clouded with mans sympathy.

brinny said:
God doesn't give brownie points or golden stars to those who could've protected the defenseless, but chose not to.

Again who was it that died in the first Church, in Rome at the Coliseum?

Aren't these people, Men, Women, and Children Martyrs, isn't that title given to those who have died for the Faith a Gold Star, or a Brownie point?

Isn't it considered to be the highest a Christian can attain?

I'm not arguing, just pointing out some things. :sorry:

Be Blessed

brinny · Jul 10, 2018

Excellent message by Dr. Michael Brown, and even moreso, as he mentioned Leonard Ravenhill, a precious man of God.

Thank you.

brinny · Jul 10, 2018

JIMINZ said:
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Hi Brinny
This is the first thing I have heard you say that I disagree with.

Were the only ones who died in the first Church, only males of arms bearing age who died defending their families, fighting those who would kill them?

Doesn't it say somewhere, "Thou shalt not kill (do no murder) same thing.

Luke 22:49-51
49) When they which were about him saw what would follow, they said unto him, Lord, shall we smite with the sword?
50) And one of them smote the servant of the high priest, and cut off his right ear.
51) And Jesus answered and said, Suffer ye thus far. And he touched his ear, and healed him.

Sorry Brinny but that is a judgment, how do we know it does not Glorify God,
your speaking out of yourself, with a mind clouded with mans sympathy.

Again who was it that died in the first Church, in Rome at the Coliseum?

Aren't these people, Men, Women, and Children Martyrs, isn't that title given to those who have died for the Faith a Gold Star, or a Brownie point?

Isn't it considered to be the highest a Christian can attain?

I'm not arguing, just pointing out some things.

Be Blessed

LOL! Well i appreciate you not arguing, thank you.

I however disagree with you, of course.

(See post #5)

Introverted1293 · Jul 10, 2018

brinny said:
Excellent message by Dr. Michael Brown, and even moreso, as he mentioned Leonard Ravenhill, a precious man of God.

Thank you.

You are welcome. God bless

Nihilist Virus · Jul 10, 2018

Introverted1293 said:
Do you believe persecuted Christians who have the ability to fight back should do so? For example, should Christians being slaughtered by Muslims be armed and trained to defend themselves?

I answered no at first. But I wanted to change my answer. But I don't know to be perfectly honest.

Why would they be slaughtered by Muslims? Are they going into Muslim nations where Christianity is outlawed on the grounds of being polytheistic? While a religion shouldn't be banned, you have to admit that in this case Christians are really just picking a fight.

brinny · Jul 10, 2018

Nihilist Virus said:
Why would they be slaughtered by Muslims? Are they going into Muslim nations where Christianity is outlawed on the grounds of being polytheistic? While a religion shouldn't be banned, you have to admit that in this case Christians are really just picking a fight.

Some, who are Muslims, etc. convert to Christianity.

Jesse was using an example when he said "Muslims".

He was, in essence, asking if Christians should defend themselves and fight back against any kind of deadly persecution.

Hank77 · Jul 10, 2018

Nihilist Virus said:
Why would they be slaughtered by Muslims? Are they going into Muslim nations where Christianity is outlawed on the grounds of being polytheistic? While a religion shouldn't be banned, you have to admit that in this case Christians are really just picking a fight.

Christianity has been active in all these now Muslim dominated countries for generations. Many of them lived side by side in peace. Christianity was present in Iran even before Islam was.

At one time in Syria Jews and Muslims lived side by side in peace. It wasn't until Britain formed the State of Israel that Jews in Syria had to fear for their lives. NOTE: I didn't say absolute equality but in peace. Jews had businesses and were allowed to freely worship, etc.

Hank77 · Jul 10, 2018

brinny said:
Who is Dr. Michael Brown?

Michael Brown is an ethic Jew and a Messianic Jew.

Nihilist Virus · Jul 10, 2018

Hank77 said:
Christianity has been active in all these now Muslim dominated countries for generations. Many of them lived side by side in peace. Christianity was present in Iran even before Islam was.

And natives were in America long before Europeans were. Japan fully modernized in the blink of an eye.

Regardless of what happened generations ago, Christians of today know that doing certain things in certain places equals a death wish. They definitely are picking a fight.

At one time in Syria Jews and Muslims lived side by side in peace. It wasn't until Britain formed the State of Israel that Jews in Syria had to fear for their lives. NOTE: I didn't say absolute equality but in peace. Jews had businesses and were allowed to freely worship, etc.

At one time, Germany was bombing England and France. I don't understand what your point is. If your point is that Islam is a problem, then I absolutely agree 100%. Just like organized crime is a problem. But if you walk into a crime boss's mansion and insult him, you definitely have a death wish.

paul1149 · Jul 10, 2018

Generally, we are not to be passive in the face of evil. The only time Christ submitted to abuse was when it served a higher purpose to do so. The best example of that is the Cross. But you can see in His ministry plenty of times when He really gave it to the Pharisees and obstinate Jews, such as Mt. 23 and John 6, or when He forcibly drove out the merchants in the Temple.

It's the same with us. We are not punching bags, at least not normally. The question is really whether the Sermon on the Mount should be taken as law written in stone, or whether it is meant to be applied in spirit. I think if you turn the other cheek every time, you quickly end up pretty badly. I see neither Jesus or Paul doing that. There's a line somewhere where being nice to an evildoer becomes a denial of truth, and that is definitely not what God wants.

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