The Stone Rejected by The Builders

Man on Fire · Jul 5, 2018

The Stone Rejected by the Builders becomes the Chief Cornerstone. (Psalms 118:22)(Luke 20:9-19)(Acts 4:11)(1 Peter 2)

Jesus is the stone rejected by the builders. Acts 4:11. The stone rejected happened in the Old Testament too. It is something that has happened before?

The stone the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone;
23 the Lord has done this,
and it is marvelous in our eyes.
24 The Lord has done it this very day;
let us rejoice today and be glad. (Psalms 118:22-24)

There may be various ways to look at what the Stone Rejected by the Builders is and not be wrong. We could say that Jesus is the Stone Rejected, and the cornerstone of which the Church is built. In terms of History and what God has been doing, Jesus fit into something like a puzzle piece. Jesus, for example, fits into the Aesop's Fable "Wolf and the Lamb." Pan, the Pagan Greek false god of shepherds was said to have died heralding the coming of the Son of Man. The Lord is a Shepherd. There may be a variety of things that Jesus fits into.

In terms of the Stone Rejected being in the Old Testament, some or all of the Judges in the Book of Judges may have been The Stone Rejected. A Prophetic Figure called called up for a particular purpose. For Jesus to return, for example, there had to be a falling away. In the Book of Judges there was a falling away.

What do you see?

Kevin Snow · Jul 5, 2018

It looks like you are reading into things too much. You can't just splice a bunch of stories together just because they have common symbols. The story as a whole has a message and that's the message that you want to understand. Everything else is unnecessary.

Man on Fire · Jul 5, 2018

You can't just splice a bunch of stories together just because they have common symbols.

The Bible asserts Truth. Truth is objective. Satan is a liar and deceiver. The Day of the Lord comes as a thief in the night.

In the Story of Noah, Noah and his family are the only human beings on Earth. What happened? They were all under God. Man may have been under God mulitple times. There was a falling away? There is one Truth. The Spiritual works in particular ways.

You stated I was reading too far into something. Are you stating that Pan the Greek false God of shepherds was not said to have died in a way to herald Jesus Christ? You would be wrong.

Are you stating that Jesus doesn't fit into the Wolf and the Lamb Asope's Fable? You would be wrong.

Chinchilla · Jul 5, 2018

Man on Fire said:
The Stone Rejected by the Builders becomes the Chief Cornerstone. (Psalms 118:22)(Luke 20:9-19)(Acts 4:11)(1 Peter 2)

Jesus is the stone rejected by the builders. Acts 4:11. The stone rejected happened in the Old Testament too. It is something that has happened before?

The stone the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone;
23 the Lord has done this,
and it is marvelous in our eyes.
24 The Lord has done it this very day;
let us rejoice today and be glad. (Psalms 118:22-24)

There may be various ways to look at what the Stone Rejected by the Builders is and not be wrong. We could say that Jesus is the Stone Rejected, and the cornerstone of which the Church is built. In terms of History and what God has been doing, Jesus fit into something like a puzzle piece. Jesus, for example, fits into the Aesop's Fable "Wolf and the Lamb." Pan, the Pagan Greek false god of shepherds was said to have died heralding the coming of the Son of Man. The Lord is a Shepherd. There may be a variety of things that Jesus fits into.

In terms of the Stone Rejected being in the Old Testament, some or all of the Judges in the Book of Judges may have been The Stone Rejected. A Prophetic Figure called called up for a particular purpose. For Jesus to return, for example, there had to be a falling away. In the Book of Judges there was a falling away.

What do you see?

It was falling away from the faith not falling away from prosperity . Yes we see prosperity but we see falling away from faith . Many countries are post-christian .

Man on Fire · Jul 5, 2018

It was falling away from the faith not falling away from prosperity . Yes we see prosperity but we see falling away from faith . Many countries are post-christian .

Prior to Jesus, in Rome, there were men like Cato talking about a falling away from virtue.

Given there was a lot of sin around the time of Jesus in Rome, and lack of virtue, there was a falling away.

This helps in understanding of "There had to be a falling away." (2 Thessalonians 2:3)

1213 · Jul 5, 2018

Man on Fire said:
The Stone Rejected by the Builders becomes the Chief Cornerstone. (Psalms 118:22)(Luke 20:9-19)(Acts 4:11)(1 Peter 2)

Jesus is the stone rejected by the builders. Acts 4:11. The stone rejected happened in the Old Testament too. It is something that has happened before?

The stone the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone;
23 the Lord has done this,
and it is marvelous in our eyes.
24 The Lord has done it this very day;
let us rejoice today and be glad. (Psalms 118:22-24)

There may be various ways to look at what the Stone Rejected by the Builders is and not be wrong. We could say that Jesus is the Stone Rejected, and the cornerstone of which the Church is built....

Bible tells Jesus is the temple of God, and disciples of Jesus are part of that temple, because God dwells also in them. I think that is the only Biblical meaning for the corner stone.

Don't you know that you are a temple of God, and that God's Spirit lives in you?
1 Corinthians 3:16
For in him all the fullness of the Godhead dwells bodily,
Colossians 2:9
Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." The Jews therefore said, "Forty-six years was this temple in building, and will you raise it up in three days?" But he spoke of the temple of his body.
John 2:19-21

justbyfaith · Jul 6, 2018

It's probably not a good idea to be looking to fables in order to find objective truth, 2 Timothy 4:1-4, esp. v.4.

Man on Fire · Jul 6, 2018

It's probably not a good idea to be looking to fables in order to find objective truth, 2 Timothy 4:1-4, esp. v.4.

What is your definition of objective truth? What do you look towards?

Following your line of reason, some person who is the head of Disney decides for you your morality, and as a tool you keep pressing on, or you stop?

justbyfaith · Jul 7, 2018

Man on Fire said:
What is your definition of objective truth? What do you look towards?

Following your line of reason, some person who is the head of Disney decides for you your morality, and as a tool you keep pressing on, or you stop?

I look towards the word of the Lord. My definition of objective truth is the teaching of God's word; and anything that is truly fact: while the Bible tells us that some knowledge and/or science is falsely so called (1 Timothy 6:20).

And I'm not sure I understand your other question.

SonOfZion · Jul 7, 2018

ביום ההוא יהיה מזבח ליהוה בתוך ארץ מצרים ומצבה אצל גבולה ליהוה

Hebrew Total 1683

Isaiah 19:19
In that day shall there be an altar to YHWH in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to YHWH.

והיה לאות ולעד ליהוה צבאות בארץ מצרים כי יצעקו אל יהוה מפני לחצים וישלח להם מושיע ורב והצילם

Hebrew Total 3766

Isaiah 19:20
And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto YHWH of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto YHWH because of the oppressors, and He shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and He shall deliver them.

1683+3766 = 5449

5449 is the Height of the Great Pyramid in Pyramid Inches, The Measurement Used by the Builders.

The Great Pyramid Never had a Capstone. Psalms 118:22

The Head of all four sides of a pyramid is the Capstone. Which is the Resh - Head of the Corner

Giza means border

The Giza Plateau is in the Midst of the land of Egypt and is The Border In-between upper and lower Egypt.

Jeremiah 32:20
Which hast set signs and wonders in the land of Egypt, even unto this day, and in Israel, and among other men; and hast made thee a name, as at this day;

A Altar/Pillar, It singular, A Witness in the middle of Egypt

Who usurped YHWH's Witness? or more importantly, Who has rejected it as a sign and a witness?

There are over a hundred facts that can be pointed out, why the GP is supernatural in Design, foretelling the future.

The volume or cubic capacity of the Coffer in the King's chamber is exactly the same volume as the Ark of the Covenant. The empty stone box that the room was built around - John 20:1

The room itself is the exact same size a Solomon's bronze laver..

The sides of the GP are concaved, which was only discovered through aerial photography. The Radius of the concave is the same as the earth at the equator, in actuality the GP is 8 sided, but only under the right lighting conditions and from the air is that possible to see.

The GP used to be encased with 144,000 polished limestone blocks, which the Egyptians pillaged and used to build their cities. Which made the GP visible from hundreds of miles, shining like the sun.

The Giza plateau was Underwater, sea shells and other evidence to this day.

The original explorers that opened the door, which was only found after others had bored through the granite, not able to find it, according to their accounts, the joints of the door were encrusted with salt, showing that it had been covered by sea water at one time.

The GP is the only pyramid with Interior passage ways, ascending and descending

The Egyptians had absolutely nothing to do with building the GP

Though it can not be certain, I lean towards Enoch being involved.

Man on Fire · Jul 7, 2018

I look towards the word of the Lord. My definition of objective truth is the teaching of God's word; and anything that is truly fact: while the Bible tells us that some knowledge and/or science is falsely so called (1 Timothy 6:20).

And I'm not sure I understand your other question.

I am a Seer. I see the Spiritual. There may be allegorical meanings to things with broad applications.

Allegorical and Spiritual things are complex. They work in particular ways and are reasonable. Someone needs to be very centered on God to see and use them well. Someone really centered on God may see a variety of things God has done or may be doing or will do.

You suggested that Aesop's Fables were not a source of finding objective truth. That may not be 100% wrong. Aseop's Fables were required knowledge for a variety of universities, and the Allegorical Nature some of the Fables work in particular ways. Someone who had no idea or concept of them may be blind to some things in the Spiritual and/or how they have been used in history.

SonOfZion · Jul 7, 2018

ביום ההוא יהיה מזבח ליהוה בתוך ארץ מצרים ומצבה אצל גבולה ליהוה

Hebrew Total 1683

Isaiah 19:19
In that day shall there be an altar to YHWH in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to YHWH.

והיה לאות ולעד ליהוה צבאות בארץ מצרים כי יצעקו אל יהוה מפני לחצים וישלח להם מושיע ורב והצילם

Hebrew Total 3766

Isaiah 19:20
And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto YHWH of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto YHWH because of the oppressors, and He shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and He shall deliver them.

1683+3766 = 5449

5449 is the Height of the Great Pyramid in Pyramid Inches, The Measurement Used by the Builders.

The Great Pyramid Never had a Capstone. Psalms 118:22

The Head of all four sides of a pyramid is the Capstone. Which is the Resh - Head of the Corner

Giza means border

The Giza Plateau is in the Midst of the land of Egypt and is The Border In-between upper and lower Egypt.

Jeremiah 32:20
Which hast set signs and wonders in the land of Egypt, even unto this day, and in Israel, and among other men; and hast made thee a name, as at this day;

A Altar/Pillar, It singular, A Witness in the middle of Egypt

Who usurped YHWH's Witness? or more importantly, Who has rejected it as a sign and a witness?

There are over a hundred facts that can be pointed out, why the GP is supernatural in Design, foretelling the future.

The volume or cubic capacity of the Coffer in the King's chamber is exactly the same volume as the Ark of the Covenant. The empty stone box that the room was built around - John 20:1

The room itself is the exact same size a Solomon's bronze laver..

The sides of the GP are concaved, which was only discovered through aerial photography. The Radius of the concave is the same as the earth at the equator, in actuality the GP is 8 sided, but only under the right lighting conditions and from the air is that possible to see.

The GP used to be encased with 144,000 polished limestone blocks, which the Egyptians pillaged and used to build their cities. Which made the GP visible from hundreds of miles, shining like the sun.

The Giza plateau was Underwater, sea shells and other evidence to this day.

The original explorers that opened the door, which was only found after others had bored through the granite, not able to find it, according to their accounts, the joints of the door were encrusted with salt, showing that it had been covered by sea water at one time.

The GP is the only pyramid with Interior passage ways, ascending and descending.

Not only is the GP in the midst of the land of Egypt, it is the center all all Earth's landmass.

The goal when an observatory is built, Is to be aligned as accurately as possible to true north - Even after all these years, due to the fact that the GP at the base has what might be described as shock absorbers. Off by only 3/16 of a degree as of today, That is Closer than Any modern observatory has been able to achieve.

When you divide that in quadrants, baseline, using the position of the GP on the earth - North, South, East, West - An equal amount of the landmass of the earth is within each one.

Making it the center of All Earth's landmass

The Egyptians had absolutely nothing to do with building the GP

Though it can not be certain, I lean towards Enoch being involved.

In regards to the superman post below, think I'll just leave that one alone. Mixing is worse than ignoring, as its purpose is confusion.

Man on Fire · Jul 7, 2018

SonOfZion said:
Put some new stuff in that wasn't originally in the other post, fixed 4 or 5 spelling errors - the improved version - still under-construction.

ביום ההוא יהיה מזבח ליהוה בתוך ארץ מצרים ומצבה אצל גבולה ליהוה

Hebrew Total 1683

Isaiah 19:19
In that day shall there be an altar to YHWH in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to YHWH.

והיה לאות ולעד ליהוה צבאות בארץ מצרים כי יצעקו אל יהוה מפני לחצים וישלח להם מושיע ורב והצילם

Hebrew Total 3766

Isaiah 19:20
And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto YHWH of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto YHWH because of the oppressors, and He shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and He shall deliver them.

1683+3766 = 5449

5449 is the Height of the Great Pyramid in Pyramid Inches, The Measurement Used by the Builders.

The Great Pyramid Never had a Capstone. Psalms 118:22

The Head of all four sides of a pyramid is the Capstone. Which is the Resh - Head of the Corner

Giza means border

The Giza Plateau is in the Midst of the land of Egypt and is The Border In-between upper and lower Egypt.

Jeremiah 32:20
Which hast set signs and wonders in the land of Egypt, even unto this day, and in Israel, and among other men; and hast made thee a name, as at this day;

A Altar/Pillar, It singular, A Witness in the middle of Egypt

Who usurped YHWH's Witness? or more importantly, Who has rejected it as a sign and a witness?

There are over a hundred facts that can be pointed out, why the GP is supernatural in Design, foretelling the future.

The volume or cubic capacity of the Coffer in the King's chamber is exactly the same volume as the Ark of the Covenant. The empty stone box that the room was built around - John 20:1

The room itself is the exact same size a Solomon's bronze laver..

The sides of the GP are concaved, which was only discovered through aerial photography. The Radius of the concave is the same as the earth at the equator, in actuality the GP is 8 sided, but only under the right lighting conditions and from the air is that possible to see.

The GP used to be encased with 144,000 polished limestone blocks, which the Egyptians pillaged and used to build their cities. Which made the GP visible from hundreds of miles, shining like the sun.

The Giza plateau was Underwater, sea shells and other evidence to this day.

The original explorers that opened the door, which was only found after others had bored through the granite, not able to find it, according to their accounts, the joints of the door were encrusted with salt, showing that it had been covered by sea water at one time.

The GP is the only pyramid with Interior passage ways, ascending and descending

The Egyptians had absolutely nothing to do with building the GP

Though it can not be certain, I lean towards Enoch being involved.

How to view Pyramids in a Biblical Context seeking Truth:

The Body of Christ

Christians are a Body of Christ. When they take communion they eat of the body and drink of the blood. In the Body, some are the hands, some the feet, some the mouth, some the eyes. Some are Apostles, some are Prophets, some are Pastors, some are Evangelists. We all have a function in the Body. A society of believers. We are a Body of Christ, an Organic Society. (Ephesians 4:11-16)

Where this is profound for teachers and understanding:

Atomism - A belief that society is made up of a collection of self-interested and largely self-sufficient individuals or atoms, rather than social groups. (Liberal Belief on Society)

Organicism - A belief that society operates like an organism or living entity, the whole being more than a collection of its individual parts. (Conservative View on Society.)

(“Political Ideologies An Introduction” Third Edition by Andrew Heywood.)

How is society often depicted? With a pyramid. The Body of Christ, being a society of believers, could be depicted as a pyramid. What is on top of the pyramid? An All Seeing Eye. God. God sees everything. In the Book of Judges, Israel was a Body of Christ or a Society of Believers. They could be represented by a pyramid. Israel was different from other nations. Other nations had Kings. Israel had no King. God was their King. He ruled them through his Spirit. On top of the pyramid is God. Prophet Samuel is raised. Prophet Samuel may be said to be on top of the Pyramid. He is a shepherd. Israel demands a King. God gives them Saul. Saul and Samuel could be said to be on top of the Pyramid.

In the music video “Dark Horse” with Katy Perry, she is visualized as standing on top of an unfinished pyramid. Within the context of the song and video, this symbolizes her being a goddess and ruling over society?

A Pastor of a Church or a Rabbi is often a leader of a community. It is a position of authority and influence. A Priest is a shepherd. He has a flock. Are you in the fold? A Pastor in a small community in a rural area in America’s Bible belt may be the shepherd of a Body of Christ. This may be symbolized with a Pyramid. He is on top. He may be part of a larger pyramid. Given he is part of a specific denomination, there may be many smaller pyramids, small Bodies, part of a larger Body. King David may be said to be on top of a Body of Christ or a Society of Believers that was The Kingdom of Israel. What happened when David sinned? King David took Uriah the Hittites’ wife, and sent him to die. (2 Samuel 11) King David took a census. (2 Samuel 24) What happened to the Body or Society of Believers when David sinned? They were punished. What happens behind closed doors? Given there are negative things happening in society, who is on top, who is the leader, and what has he been doing behind closed doors?

Man on Fire · Jul 7, 2018

In the context of the above, on the $1 why is the pyramid unfinished?

The stone rejected by the builders becomes the chief cornerstone. There had to be a falling away.

justbyfaith · Jul 7, 2018

I was into crystals and pyramids before I came to faith in Jesus Christ. All very New Age stuff. Not Christianity.

Concerning the other thing:

2 Timothy 4:4, And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

SonOfZion · Jul 7, 2018

justbyfaith said:
I was into crystals and pyramids before I came to faith in Jesus Christ. All very New Age stuff. Not Christianity.

Concerning the other thing:

2 Timothy 4:4, And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

fables like christmas literally translated christ, and the catholic meaning of mass, which is death - like you do every year, when you wish someone a merry "christ death" and what you believe in your heart about that, does not change facts.

or easter, have a happy ishtar day

You Can't turn your ears farther from the truth than that!

Like the large banner every year on CC Costa Mesa says

ishtar celebration on/at

These are facts whether you like it or not.

What you have done here, the same as you did in another thread - obfuscate, deny, and confuse with mighty proof texts that you pour the meaning into.

How about that?

The introduction for the next post

Man on Fire · Jul 7, 2018

Question: In terms of Prophecy, how should the Kings of Leon, "Pyro" song and video be best viewed?

Reading the signs of the times, there is a Stone Rejected by the Builders, a Prodigal Son. He would have to fit into a variety of scripture and prophecy in a way that is "No Leaf Clover."

He would be not the Messiah. Not the Christ.

He would be kind of like Neo from the Matrix. Lies and deceptions create false perspectives and illusions. God wakes him up. He serves The Lord Jesus Christ, and works to build The Kingdom of God.

justbyfaith · Jul 7, 2018

SonOfZion said:
fables like christmas literally translated christ, and the catholic meaning of mass, which is death - like you do every year, when you wish someone a merry "christ death" and what you believe in your heart about that, does not change facts.

or easter, have a happy ishtar day

You Can't turn your ears farther from the truth than that!

Like the large banner every year on CC Costa Mesa says

ishtar celebration on/at

These are facts whether you like it or not.

What you have done here, the same as you did in another thread - obfuscate, deny, and confuse with mighty proof texts that you pour the meaning into.

How about that?

The introduction for the next post

I think that has to be a lie. There has never been any banner at CC Costa Mesa that says "ishtar celebration on/at..."

Maybe Easter (which is identified as a resurrrection holiday celebrated by Christians in the kjv, in Acts of the Apostles 12:4)

If anything, CC Costa Mesa and the Christians I know that go to Calvary Chapel consider Easter to be Resurrection Day; and we call it that.

Man on Fire · Jul 7, 2018

I was into crystals and pyramids before I came to faith in Jesus Christ. All very New Age stuff. Not Christianity.

I was more getting at how pyramids may have a distinct spiritual reference.

In a variety of cultures, pyramids are used to represent society. The Body of Christ is a society. It is a community of believers. Saying that it is "Not Christianity" may blind people, and/or "Occult" some knowledge or understanding.

justbyfaith · Jul 7, 2018

It is not necessary to take New Age/Occultic things and try to Christianize them. You do that, you are in spiritual danger of leading people into thinking that the Occult is something you can dabble in.

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