WHERE REALLY IS GOD'S TRUE CHURCH ?

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The word church in the new testament comes from the greek word : ” ECCLESIA ” : which literally translated means : ” THE CALLED OUT ! ” God’s true church consists of those worldwide whom his spirit calls out unto him from the world in general and the worldly churches of men . God’s true church is a SPIRITUAL church , you will never find God’s true church as long as you keep looking to the earthly churches of men , for his church is not there , but solely in the spirit : LUKE 17(21) : ” Neither shall they say , lo here , or lo there , for behold the kingdom of God is within you . ” It is an invisible spiritual church , only visible to those who truly have God’s spirit : JOHN 3(8) : ” The wind bloweth where it listeth , and thou hearest the sound thereof , but canst not tell from whence it cometh or whither it goeth , SO IS EVERYONE THAT IS BORN OF THE SPIRIT . ” THESE ARE HIS TRUE CHILDREN , AND ARE THE LIVING STONES IN HIS ONE AND ONLY TRUE SPIRITUAL CHURCH , CHRIST of course being THE CHIEF CORNER STONE : 1 PETER 2(5&6) : 5 : ” Ye also as lively stones are built up A SPIRITUAL HOUSE ” 6 ” I lay in zion a CHIEF CORNER STONE . ” All members of this true church understand the same universal truths totally independent of each other physically , united in understanding as one SOLELY BY

HIS SPIRIT : 1 CORINTHIANS 2(10) : ” But God hath revealed them unto us BY HIS SPIRIT .” Whereas those of the worldly man made churches , cannot understand these same truths, even as they could not understand what Christ said when he was here , because in truth they do not have God’s true spirit , and are not in the true spiritual fellowship of God’s true spiritual church , but are only in the worldly churches of men , and cannot see the true church ! But the true children of wisdom recognize each other solely by his spirit : LUKE 7(35) : ” But wisdom is justified OF ALL HER CHILDREN . ” These worldly churches of men put their confidence in a group , or a pastor , or large numbers as proof that they are right, whereas God says that large numbers are proof that you are wrong , and that we are to put our confidence only in his word , not men , groups , or large numbers : MATTHEW 7(13&14) : 13 : ” Wide is the gate that leadeth to destruction , and many there be that go in thereat ” 14 : ” Narrow is the way that leadeth unto life AND FEW THERE BE THAT FIND IT !” In other words they are carnal and not spiritual : 1 CORINTHIANS 3(4) : ” For while one saith I am of Paul , and another , I am of Apollos , are ye not carnal ?” and MATTHEW 15(9) : “In vain do they worship me , teaching for doctrines THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN .” As long as you are holding onto a group , or pastor for your stability you are in carnal confidence , and have not yet graduated to the spiritual , and are not yet truly following God but men or groups ! The only way to make true contact with God is to put your faith in God alone through his word not all the teachings of men in the various churches, but his word alone : 1 CORINTHIANS 4(6) : ” That you might learn in us NOT TO THINK OF MEN ABOVE THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN ! ” We do not need to listen to the endless teachings of men which usually wind up confusing us , but God has given us his Holy Spirit for the very purpose of interpreting his Holy Word for us , not men : 1 JOHN 2(27) : ” But the anointing which you have received of him abideth in you , and YOU NEED NOT THAT ANY MAN TEACHES YOU , BUT AS THE SAME ANOINTING TEACHES YOU OF ” ALL ” THINGS ! ” Belonging to a church of men is no guarantee that you even have God : ACTS 7(48) : ” The most high DWELLS NOT in temples made with hands .” As a matter of fact God has promised that he will call out by his spirit his true sheep from these false churches of men with their false shepherds : EZEKIEL 34(10) : ” Thus saith the Lord God , behold I am against the shepherds , and I will require my flock at their hand for I will deliver my flock from their mouth , that they may not be meat for them .” God’s true church is united only by the spirit , and not by physical organizations of men , and thus can never be destroyed , whereas the physical worldly churches of men rise and fall : PSALMS 127(1) : ” Except THE LORD BUILD THE HOUSE , they labor in vain that build it .” Only GOD’S TRUE ELECT WHO ARE TRULY BORN AGAIN CAN SEE GOD’S TRUE CHURCH , the rest put their confidence in worldly churches of men and can’t even see where God’s true church really is : JOHN 3(3) : ” Except a man be born again , HE CANNOT SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD !” God’s true church has always been hated and persecuted by the world , not well spoken of by the world like these compromising worldly churches of men : MATTHEW 10(22) : ” YE SHALL BE HATED OF ALL MEN . ” and LUKE 6(46) : ” WOE UNTO YOU WHEN ALL MEN SHALL SPEAK WELL OF YOU , FOR SO DID THEIR FATHERS TO THE FALSE PROPHETS .” These worldly churches are full of those who compromise because they are not true lovers of God’s truth , but pretenders , and therefore do not want to pay the price of not compromising and getting put out of their church for remaining pure unto God’s real truth , for they value the praise of men more then God’s real truth , and in so doing forsake God’s true church to remain in the churches of men : JOHN 12(42&43) : 42 : ” Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him , but because of the pharisees they did not confess him , lest they should be put out of the synagogue ” 43 : ” FOR THEY LOVED THE PRAISE OF MEN MORE THAN THE PRAISE OF GOD !” And in an effort to justify themselves they receive honour and justification from one another instead of just looking to please god even if it offended men : JOHN 5(44) : ” How can you believe WHICH RECEIVE HONOR ONE OF ANOTHER AND SEEK NOT THE HONOR THAT COMES FROM GOD ONLY !” and LUKE 16(15) : ” Ye are THEY WHICH JUSTIFY YOURSELVES BEFORE MEN , but God knows your hearts .” IN OTHER WORDS THEY ARE NOT FOLLOWING GOD BUT ARE DOING THINGS TO GET THE PRAISE AND APPROVAL OF MEN , NOT GOD , AND ARE OF COURSE THUS NOT EVEN IN GOD’S TRUE SPIRITUAL CHURCH BUT COUNTERFEITS OF MEN ! SO HIS TRUE CHURCH IS HIS ECCLESIA : HIS CALLED OUT : IS HE CALLING YOU OUT OF THE FALSE CHURCHES OF MEN RIGHT NOW ? : IF SO GO TO : FALSEDOCTRINESOFMEN.COM : FOR HIS REAL TRUTH
 

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The word church in the new testament comes from the greek word : ” ECCLESIA ” : which literally translated means : ” THE CALLED OUT ! ” God’s true church consists of those worldwide whom his spirit calls out unto him from the world in general and the worldly churches of men . God’s true church is a SPIRITUAL church , you will never find God’s true church as long as you keep looking to the earthly churches of men , for his church is not there , but solely in the spirit : LUKE 17(21) : ” Neither shall they say , lo here , or lo there , for behold the kingdom of God is within you . ” It is an invisible spiritual church , only visible to those who truly have God’s spirit : JOHN 3(8) : ” The wind bloweth where it listeth , and thou hearest the sound thereof , but canst not tell from whence it cometh or whither it goeth , SO IS EVERYONE THAT IS BORN OF THE SPIRIT . ” THESE ARE HIS TRUE CHILDREN , AND ARE THE LIVING STONES IN HIS ONE AND ONLY TRUE SPIRITUAL CHURCH , CHRIST of course being THE CHIEF CORNER STONE : 1 PETER 2(5&6) : 5 : ” Ye also as lively stones are built up A SPIRITUAL HOUSE ” 6 ” I lay in zion a CHIEF CORNER STONE . ” All members of this true church understand the same universal truths totally independent of each other physically , united in understanding as one SOLELY BY

HIS SPIRIT : 1 CORINTHIANS 2(10) : ” But God hath revealed them unto us BY HIS SPIRIT .” Whereas those of the worldly man made churches , cannot understand these same truths, even as they could not understand what Christ said when he was here , because in truth they do not have God’s true spirit , and are not in the true spiritual fellowship of God’s true spiritual church , but are only in the worldly churches of men , and cannot see the true church ! But the true children of wisdom recognize each other solely by his spirit : LUKE 7(35) : ” But wisdom is justified OF ALL HER CHILDREN . ” These worldly churches of men put their confidence in a group , or a pastor , or large numbers as proof that they are right, whereas God says that large numbers are proof that you are wrong , and that we are to put our confidence only in his word , not men , groups , or large numbers : MATTHEW 7(13&14) : 13 : ” Wide is the gate that leadeth to destruction , and many there be that go in thereat ” 14 : ” Narrow is the way that leadeth unto life AND FEW THERE BE THAT FIND IT !” In other words they are carnal and not spiritual : 1 CORINTHIANS 3(4) : ” For while one saith I am of Paul , and another , I am of Apollos , are ye not carnal ?” and MATTHEW 15(9) : “In vain do they worship me , teaching for doctrines THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN .” As long as you are holding onto a group , or pastor for your stability you are in carnal confidence , and have not yet graduated to the spiritual , and are not yet truly following God but men or groups ! The only way to make true contact with God is to put your faith in God alone through his word not all the teachings of men in the various churches, but his word alone : 1 CORINTHIANS 4(6) : ” That you might learn in us NOT TO THINK OF MEN ABOVE THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN ! ” We do not need to listen to the endless teachings of men which usually wind up confusing us , but God has given us his Holy Spirit for the very purpose of interpreting his Holy Word for us , not men : 1 JOHN 2(27) : ” But the anointing which you have received of him abideth in you , and YOU NEED NOT THAT ANY MAN TEACHES YOU , BUT AS THE SAME ANOINTING TEACHES YOU OF ” ALL ” THINGS ! ” Belonging to a church of men is no guarantee that you even have God : ACTS 7(48) : ” The most high DWELLS NOT in temples made with hands .” As a matter of fact God has promised that he will call out by his spirit his true sheep from these false churches of men with their false shepherds : EZEKIEL 34(10) : ” Thus saith the Lord God , behold I am against the shepherds , and I will require my flock at their hand for I will deliver my flock from their mouth , that they may not be meat for them .” God’s true church is united only by the spirit , and not by physical organizations of men , and thus can never be destroyed , whereas the physical worldly churches of men rise and fall : PSALMS 127(1) : ” Except THE LORD BUILD THE HOUSE , they labor in vain that build it .” Only GOD’S TRUE ELECT WHO ARE TRULY BORN AGAIN CAN SEE GOD’S TRUE CHURCH , the rest put their confidence in worldly churches of men and can’t even see where God’s true church really is : JOHN 3(3) : ” Except a man be born again , HE CANNOT SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD !” God’s true church has always been hated and persecuted by the world , not well spoken of by the world like these compromising worldly churches of men : MATTHEW 10(22) : ” YE SHALL BE HATED OF ALL MEN . ” and LUKE 6(46) : ” WOE UNTO YOU WHEN ALL MEN SHALL SPEAK WELL OF YOU , FOR SO DID THEIR FATHERS TO THE FALSE PROPHETS .” These worldly churches are full of those who compromise because they are not true lovers of God’s truth , but pretenders , and therefore do not want to pay the price of not compromising and getting put out of their church for remaining pure unto God’s real truth , for they value the praise of men more then God’s real truth , and in so doing forsake God’s true church to remain in the churches of men : JOHN 12(42&43) : 42 : ” Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him , but because of the pharisees they did not confess him , lest they should be put out of the synagogue ” 43 : ” FOR THEY LOVED THE PRAISE OF MEN MORE THAN THE PRAISE OF GOD !” And in an effort to justify themselves they receive honour and justification from one another instead of just looking to please god even if it offended men : JOHN 5(44) : ” How can you believe WHICH RECEIVE HONOR ONE OF ANOTHER AND SEEK NOT THE HONOR THAT COMES FROM GOD ONLY !” and LUKE 16(15) : ” Ye are THEY WHICH JUSTIFY YOURSELVES BEFORE MEN , but God knows your hearts .” IN OTHER WORDS THEY ARE NOT FOLLOWING GOD BUT ARE DOING THINGS TO GET THE PRAISE AND APPROVAL OF MEN , NOT GOD , AND ARE OF COURSE THUS NOT EVEN IN GOD’S TRUE SPIRITUAL CHURCH BUT COUNTERFEITS OF MEN ! SO HIS TRUE CHURCH IS HIS ECCLESIA : HIS CALLED OUT : IS HE CALLING YOU OUT OF THE FALSE CHURCHES OF MEN RIGHT NOW ? : IF SO GO TO : FALSEDOCTRINESOFMEN.COM : FOR HIS REAL TRUTH

Hosea 11
1When Israel was a youth I loved him, And out of Egypt I called My son.

The church is an embryo, a youth. It is only called out when it leaves Egypt, just like Moses and Christ.

In the embryo, the believers are incubated, receive revelation and clarification, in childish talk. But when the perfect comes, they see God, as if face to face. In other words, they know the demarcation is serving selfish interest versus serving others. Hatred, covetousness, etc are MANIFESTATIONS of serving self. When they realise the root cause, serving self, they KNOW what serving others means, and they cut off the root cause. No more childish talk, now it is face to face:

Acts 4
32And the congregation of those who believed were of one heart and soul; and not one of themclaimed that anything belonging to him was his own, but all things were common property to them.33And with great power the apostles were giving testimony to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and abundant grace was upon them all. 34For there was not a needy person among them, for all who were owners of land or houses would sell them and bring the proceeds of the sales 35and lay them at the apostles’ feet, and they would be distributed to each as any had need.


This is the real ekklesia, the completed church.

How else can you be out, unless you are out of something?
 
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Greetings John tower,
The word church in the new testament comes from the greek word : ” ECCLESIA ” : which literally translated means : ” THE CALLED OUT ! ” God’s true church consists of those worldwide whom his spirit calls out unto him from the world in general and the worldly churches of men .
I notice that your Post is simply a full quotation of one of the articles by gigoboy777 from the site you reference. I agree that the true Ekklesia are those called out, but I believe that they are called out by the gospel.
Acts 15:14 (KJV): Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.

Acts 8:5–6,12 (KJV): 5 Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them. 6 And the people with one accord gave heed unto those things which Philip spake, hearing and seeing the miracles which he did.12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
When Philip preached Christ to the Samaritans they believed this Apostolic gospel of the kingdom and name and were baptised in water, and then as far as we can tell, met together in fellowship and worship, thus forming an Ekklesia or perhaps rather part of the overall Ekklesia of Christ. Those who are united in belief with these early believers are part of the Ekklesia. So in a sense I agree that the true believers are not identified with any major Church, but they can be represented by a group of individuals who believe the gospel and fellowship after the Apostolic example. I find that the article that you quote is very disjointed, poorly written and obscure, linking passages together that have distinct contexts and are not altogether connected. This may be typical of those claiming Spirit guidance, but on closer examination they speak from their own thoughts and not directly from God or Christ or the Spirit.

Kind regards Trevor
 
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