Visions of New Jerusalem seen by orphans in 1919 in China!

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I had car trouble last week.... ended up staying two nights away from home and was led to a book that blew my mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Orphans in China in 1919 to 1950 were given visions of the New Jerusalem that I am sure has some relevance to an amazing explanation of the Cyrus prophecies of Isaiah by a man from Uganda that will surely connect Christians and Jews at a new and deep level... in the near future?????!!!!!
 

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I do not claim to understand how this all fits together... and any comments or explanations will be appreciated!!!

Visions Beyond the Veil CHAPTER IV VISIONS OF HEAVEN

The Bible tells us the heaven of the redeemed is "the third heaven."15 The future home of the people of the Lord is a place in the third heaven. This place is a city. The name of this city is "The New Jerusalem." This New Jerusalem is not "a figure of speech." It is not a combination of ideas skillfully clothed in earthly words of the Lord to give man a false conception of something it is not. The Bible says this New Jerusalem is a real city with a real foundation which God himself laid.

This celestial city is foursquare, one thousand five hundred miles on every side, surrounded by a wall two hundred feet high with foundations of twelve kinds of precious stones, the most beautiful precious stones known to man. The wall itself is jasper, which sends forth a brilliant jasper light. Twelve gates lead into the city, the streets of which are like burnished gold.

"I know a man in Christ . . . such a one caught up even to the third heaven."
II Cor. 12:2.

"I go to prepare a place for you."
John 14:2.

"But ye are come unto mount Zion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem . . . and to the spirits of just men made perfect."
Heb. 12 :22, 23.

"For we have not here an abiding city, but we seek after the city which is to come."
Heb. 13:14.

"By faith Abraham . . . looked for the city which hath the foundations whose builder and maker is God."
Heb. 11:10.

All the saints of old died desiring "a better country, that is, a heavenly: Wherefore God is not ashamed of them, to be called their God; for he hath prepared for them a city."
Heb. 11:16. 16"

And he carried me away in the Spirit. . . and showed me the holy city Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God . . . her light was like unto a stone most precious, as it was a jasper stone, clear as crystal, having a wall great and high; having twelve gates . . . and the wall of the city had twelve foundations . . . and the city lieth foursquare, and the length thereof is as great as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs (1,500 miles): the length and the breadth and the height thereof are equal . . . The wall thereof a hundred and forty-four cubits (216 feet). And the building of the wall thereof was jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto pure glass; the foundations of the wall of the city were adorned with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, chalcedony; the fourth, emerald; the fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolite; the eighth, beryl, the ninth, topaz; the tenth chrysoprase; the eleventh, jacinth; and the twelfth, amethyst. . . The city hath no need of the sun, neither of the moon to shine upon it for the glory of God did lighten it." Rev. 21:10-23.

In this city are the homes of the redeemed, the abode of angels, Paradise, and the throne of God.

Why should not the New Jerusalem be a real city with streets of real gold and with jasper walls and with foundation stones of precious jewels? Did God so exhaust his material when he made the universe that he had no gold or jewels left for heaven?

If God could make a world, could he not suspend a city in the sky beyond the stars? Here and there a little impure gold in a fissure of a distorted rock of this cursed and perverted earth or here and there the discovery of a precious jewel hidden in the debris of earthly ruins are only lingering reminders of the reality of which these are merely shadows. The real, the imperishable are in the city whose builder and maker is God.

The scenes of this city are not so clear, the children said, as the scenes they saw on the street of the New Jerusalem in heaven. What we see on this perverted, degenerated earth are only shadows. "The creation fell into subjection to failure and unreality" (Rom. 8 :20) .

The gold we cherish, the jewels we adore, the cities and mansions we build are only copies of the real in the city that is soon coming down.

The Adullam children were caught up in vision to this city of God. How they could see the city I do not know. How Abraham saw it I do not know. How Paul could be caught up to Paradise, either in the body or out of the body, I do not know. These things are beyond natural order. We need not, at present, know the How. We know the Fact. John was shown the city. He was told by the Lord to write the things he had seen and send them to the Churches.

In the Spirit Adullam children were caught up to this city time after time, not as in a dream but as a living reality. Their visits were so real, in fact, that the children supposed their souls actually left their bodies to go to heaven and return, or that in some unaccountable way they had gone to heaven soul and body just as they might in daily life visit some distant place. Frequently when in Paradise the children were plucking and partaking of the heavenly fruit they gathered some extra to tuck in their garments to bring back to earth for "Muh Si and Si Mu" (Pastor and Mrs. Baker).

They knew they were only on a visit to heaven and soon to return. Upon returning, when the Spirit lifted from them, finding themselves in our Adullam rooms they proceeded at once to search in their garments for the delicious fruit they had brought back to please us. Not finding this fruit in their garments, a look of great surprise, confusion, and disappointment came over their faces. They could not, for the time, believe they had not bodily gone to heaven and come back with the fruit tucked in their garments.

Walking on the streets of the New Jerusalem was to them as real as walking on the streets of a Chinese city. One day, when walking down the street in bright sunshine, I asked the boys if the visions were as real and as clear as what we then saw. "Just as real," they said, "but much clearer due to the light in heaven and the white garments and the cleanliness everywhere, all adding to the brightness."

When in the Spirit, the children were usually lost to their natural surroundings. In many cases, although they supposed they were in heaven, they talked aloud, describing what they saw, thus carrying on conversation that we all could hear. Often they acted out before our eyes what they supposed they were doing in heaven.

Caught up to the Third Heaven

The Adullam children said they went to the third heaven. As they passed through the first heaven they felt air on their faces. Having passed the second heaven, they looked back upon the stars in their wonderful beauty, much as from a mountain height a person might gaze down upon a beautiful, light-studded city below. From this starry heaven they passed on into the third heaven until they Came to the Heavenly Jerusalem. As they approached this heavenly city they saw its light in the distance. Coming nearer, they saw the beautiful wall radiating its wonderful jasper light. The foundations were of indescribable beauty, sparkling with red, yellow, orange, purple, blue, green, violet, and all the other colors of the twelve most beautiful jewels.


This city in the sky the children saw as three cities in one: one city suspended above another, the largest city below, the smallest city on top, making a pyramid. Since this city John saw is surrounded by a wall, and since the city is one thousand five hundred miles high, Bible students have supposed the heavenly city is not a cube but a pyramid. Our children, however, knew nothing of this, neither had I ever thought of the New Jerusalem as three cities, one suspended above another. God who suspends the worlds in space can suspend these cities in space. The Bible does not tell us the internal order of the city.

One of our small boys spoke in prophecy when in vision at the feet of the Lord the Lord was talking to him. In this prophecy the Lord said that he had made heaven big enough for everybody, that he had made it in three cities one above another, and that at present his throne is in the upper city.

Since time and distance are nothing in the heavenly realm, there is nothing impossible in such an arrangement of this city of God. There are three heavens. There were three stories in the ark, where God preserved the present creation. God is three in one. Why should not the city of the Great King be three in one? Why should not the King reign from the top of the pyramid of all the universe, since "the stone which the builders rejected was made the head of the corner," the capstone of the pyramid of all creation?

By the Gates into the City Adullam entered by its pearly gates into the city of golden streets. Angels in white guarded the gates and welcomed those entering in. No beggarly reception this. Here the one-time rejected off-scourings of the earth were welcomed as kings by these angelic hosts. Had not the Savior promised the weakest and humblest of his children a kingdom where they shall reign with the King of Kings for ages and ages?

Visions Beyond the Veil (Free Book) – H.A. Baker | HopeFaithPrayer
 
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msge you , due to MJ only tag :)

Thank you immensely MichaelmynameIs!


What do you think of this theory by a man from Uganda:


Eporu Ronald Alfred

Kakira Deliverance Church,
P.O. Box 3191, Kakira, Jinja, Uganda

......

Dear brethren,
I salute you in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ!

RE: SHARING NEW DISCOVERIES OF THE TRUTH IN BIBLE PROPHECY CONCERNING THE IMMINENT HEALING AND UNITY OF THE CHURCH

I am mesmerized by the truth in bible prophecy that the Spirit of God has been revealing over the recent years. Secret things belong to God and those that are revealed belong to us and our children... (Deut 29: 29).

1. King Cyrus the great ruled his country 555 years Before Christ i.e. from 576 BC to 530 BC and authorised the rebuilding of the second temple in Jerusalem. Cyrus of the Old Testament is hence associated with the number 555 and is the shadow figure of incoming Cyrus II of the New Testament. You may learn more about his history from the internet and scriptures. This new truth enables us to identify the leadership of the world that will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem as prophesied in book of Isaiah before the rise of antichrist. Cyrus II is coming to revive the evangelical/Pentecostal church in Jerusalem and restore the headquarters of the church in same city where the church was born. He is set to strip Babylon of the vessels of the temple and the name of the Lord God and transfer that crown back to Jerusalem thus leaving Babylon naked. Cyrus will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem in fulfilment of the prophecy of Jesus as written in the book of John 2:18-23 and the prophecy of Isaiah as written in chapters 40, 41, 45 and 47 of the book of Isaiah. Jesus regarded the temple as the symbol of his own body while saying that he had the power to lay it down on the first day (1st millennium) and rebuild or raise it up on the 3rd day (3rd millennium). Remember that one day in the eyes of God is the same as one thousand years (millennium) as stated in book of 2 Peter 3:8. Rebuilding of the temple is thus associated with unification of the church.

Cyrus II will rebuild the temple in honour of our lord Jesus Christ. The temple will be the unifying (rallying) point of the world wide evangelical church as the original headquarters of the church. Psalms133 denotes that there is such a powerful anointing that comes along with unity among brethren. Unification of the whole body of Jesus Christ will make the church so powerful that she will overrun the world within a short time before the return of our lord Jesus Christ. A divided church is a powerless church whereas a united church is a powerful church. The church can only be able to fulfil her ultimate mission of revealing Jesus to the world once we get united as one body of Jesus Christ following his last prayer for his disciples as written in John 17:20-23.

Cyrus II will erase that false image of Jesus that the counterfeit and Idolatrous state church of Babylon has been projecting around the world and revive the original church that projects the true brilliant image of Jesus Christ. Haggai 2:9 says that the glory of the latter church (temple) will be greater than the glory of the former church (temple).The rise of Cyrus will also usher in the ultimate fulfilment of the prophecy of Joel 2:28 where God intends to pour out His Spirit on all flesh in these last days. The era of Cyrus brings the gentile period of grace to its close and leads to the restoration of the Jewish period of grace and salvation.
 
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Here is an encouraging message for the ladies.... and the children.

"The Lord called a dozen men. He changed them, and then they changed the world. In your time He is going to do the same with children. It is also the time of the lioness. Great are the company of women who will preach he gospel. There will be many great men of God in your time..... but the great marvel and great honor will be for the women and children who walk in the ways of the Lord.

Remember it was the woman who was deceived and had enmity with the serpent, but it will be her seed that crushes its head. Women have a special place in this fight.

He looked into the eyes of the little girl. "It is your time as a woman. It is your time as a child, for the children will be for signs and wonders. They will turn the tide of the last battle. Gather the children and help their mothers. Great is the Lord in you for all you need." (Rick Joyner, The Torch and the Sword, page 77)
 
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I was given a vision of [part of] the New Jerusalem some years ago now. I have never forgotten it - I can still recall the detail today. It was truly amazing. It was at the time when I was called from industry into the Ministry, as a rather reluctant candidate!
 
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I was given a vision of [part of] the New Jerusalem some years ago now. I have never forgotten it - I can still recall the detail today. It was truly amazing. It was at the time when I was called from industry into the Ministry, as a rather reluctant candidate!
Can you share what you saw?
 
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Can you share what you saw?

Revelation 22:1-2. I used to have a very great fear of rivers, open sea etc., which persisted all my life up to this point. I now live on a small Island where I have to catch a ferry to get to the mainland, about 5 miles away! I never get anxious or sea sick, now.

In the vision, I was told that G_d would permit no harm to come to me. I looked around me and saw that I was kneeling on something that was floating on a river, with no means of control, through a city, and I was scared out my wits that I might fall off into the river. I saw the trees along the banks of the river and realised where I was. I saw what looked like people walking along on the path through the city, on my right side, but could not make out what they were wearing, or who they were; they seemed to be just going about their business. There were white buildings, but I could not see what the buildings were. I saw a very large stone entrance to a building, ahead, towards which I was floating. I began to feel very, very safe, and relaxed and just let the river take me along - my fear had gone. The vision stopped before I got to stone entrance.

I learned from that vision that being called to ministry would not always be easy, but that even in my deepest fear, I had to trust G_d. A while after this, I began studying in a theological College in London, whilst continuing in my profession (import / export management). When I graduated I left my work in London and we moved to Cambridge, for more study, and so on.
 
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Revelation 22:1-2. I used to have a very great fear of rivers, open sea etc., which persisted all my life up to this point. I now live on a small Island where I have to catch a ferry to get to the mainland, about 5 miles away! I never get anxious or sea sick, now.

In the vision, I was told that G_d would permit no harm to come to me. I looked around me and saw that I was kneeling on something that was floating on a river, with no means of control, through a city, and I was scared out my wits that I might fall off into the river. I saw the trees along the banks of the river and realised where I was. I saw what looked like people walking along on the path through the city, on my right side, but could not make out what they were wearing, or who they were; they seemed to be just going about their business. There were white buildings, but I could not see what the buildings were. I saw a very large stone entrance to a building, ahead, towards which I was floating. I began to feel very, very safe, and relaxed and just let the river take me along - my fear had gone. The vision stopped before I got to stone entrance.

I learned from that vision that being called to ministry would not always be easy, but that even in my deepest fear, I had to trust G_d. A while after this, I began studying in a theological College in London, whilst continuing in my profession (import / export management). When I graduated I left my work in London and we moved to Cambridge, for more study, and so on.

Over the years I have read some of the Andrew Strom ideas......
and I would regard Randy Clark as being more accurate even on his worst day!

http://andrewstromresponse.com/
 
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I don’t know whether the gold and diamond in New Jerusalem is material or symbol. But I trust orphans can have deeper visions than I. In my thought, there are two opposite spiritual ways from U.S.A to Israel. The first is through Europe and easier. The second is through Asia and harder. Both are ok. American Jewish shall come back to Israel.

Jesus in China:
In 1998 I met a christian lady at her home in Tianjin China, I believe what she said was true. She was a patient of cancer. After She fasted for 40 days, in the day at her home, Her spirit was lifted up to heaven. Jesus Christ met her and said “you have been clean”(Ni3 Sheng4Jie2 le)in Chinese. And explained some vision and mystery to her. She thought Israel should not rely on American too much.
 
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I don’t know whether the gold and diamond in New Jerusalem is material or symbol. But I trust orphans can have deeper visions than I. In my thought, there are two opposite spiritual ways from U.S.A to Israel. The first is through Europe and easier. The second is through Asia and harder. Both are ok. American Jewish shall come back to Israel.

Jesus in China:
In 1998 I met a christian lady at her home in Tianjin China, I believe what she said was true. She was a patient of cancer. After She fasted for 40 days, in the day at her home, Her spirit was lifted up to heaven. Jesus Christ met her and said “you have been clean”(Ni3 Sheng4Jie2 le)in Chinese. And explained some vision and mystery to her. She thought Israel should not rely on American too much.


Wow!!!!!!

That is a good point.............. Israel must rely on G-d and in my opinion needs to put first things first because it is truly difficult for most of us Christians to relate to what Moses, Ezekiel, Isaiah, Jeremiah and the minor prophets have explained clearly that the Jewish people need to accomplish.

Grant R. Jeffrey on a Jerusalem Third Temple.
 
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