Why Jesus called Mary 'Woman' ?

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Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.
John 2:4 KJV

Why Jesus disrespected his mother in such a manner?
Why did the women think Jesus had the ability to provide? He turned the water into wine. He did what she asked of Him. Divine help.
The Son that was, His spirit, was in the tent of the body God prepared for Him. Mary conceived by the Holy Spirit. So the one born was called the Son of the Most High God.
Jesus is far older then Mary

"Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!"

Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: "Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, but a body you prepared for me;
 
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Sounds rude in English; it isn't in Koine Greek. It does however, entail some distance from her, that He doesn't call her mother. However, without Jesus even saying He'll do something, Mary is already ordering the servants to do as He says. Sounds typically like a mother, assuming her son will listen to her, and nowhere is there any friction between them in the text.
 
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Sounds rude in English; it isn't in Koine Greek.
It is probably more like the English "ma'am" which has a similar etymology.

Ma'am < madam < madame < ma dame, "My lady"
 
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Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.
John 2:4 KJV

Why Jesus disrespected his mother in such a manner?
Seems to me, contrary to the claims of Catholicism, a lot of comments Jesus makes about Mary seem to be to put her in her place.

His mother said to Him, "Son, why have You done this to us? Look, Your father and I have sought You anxiously." And He said to them, "Why did you seek Me? Did you not know that I must be about My Father’s business?" Lk 2:48,49

"Then Jesus entered a house, and again a crowd gathered, so that he and his disciples were not even able to eat. When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, 'He is out of his mind.'" Mark 3:20,21 Then if we continue on to verse 31 when they actually arrived it says: Then Jesus’ mother and brothers arrived. Standing outside, they sent someone in to call him. A crowd was sitting around him, and they told him, "Your mother and brothers are outside looking for you." "Who are my mother and my brothers?" he asked. Then he looked at those seated in a circle around him and said, "Here are my mother and my brothers! Whoever does God’s will is my brother and sister and mother." Mark 3:31-35

While Jesus was saying these things, one of the women in the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, "Blessed is the womb that bore You and the breasts at which You nursed." But He said, "On the contrary, blessed are those who hear the word of God and observe it." Luke 11:27,28
 
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Clearly Mary knew Jesus was Gods Son and that's why she had confidence in asking Jesus for divine help. And that help was Jesus's first recorded miracle. That question strengthens (not weakens), the case for Jesus being the Son of God.

Just as Jesus, Himself, who was on the cross stated
When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to his mother, “Woman, behold, your son!” 27 Then he said to the disciple, “Behold, your mother!” And from that hour the disciple took her to his own home.
 
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Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.
John 2:4 KJV

Why Jesus disrespected his mother in such a manner?

Reading it as disrespectful is eisegetic and anachronistic. To a modern person, especially a modern English speaker or someone from a culture in which calling a woman "woman" is a sign of disrespect it comes across like disrespect--but that assumption is just that an assumption.

Thus asking "Why Jesus disrespected his mother" is begging the question. You would first need to establish that Jesus was disrespecting His mother here. And to find that out we'd need to see how this sort of language was used in Jesus' time and culture, and also evaluate the evangelist's intent.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Sounds rude in English; it isn't in Koine Greek. It does however, entail some distance from her, that He doesn't call her mother. However, without Jesus even saying He'll do something, Mary is already ordering the servants to do as He says. Sounds typically like a mother, assuming her son will listen to her, and nowhere is there any friction between them in the text.

The distance may be simply that Jesus is a grown man (near or around 30 according to Luke), and "woman" here rather than "mother" can indicate something like "ma'am" but in such a way as to suggest that Mary's motherly attention is unnecessary here, which is why Jesus says that it isn't His time yet. Nonetheless, Mary tells the attendants to do whatever Jesus says, and Jesus still fixes the no wine problem at the party, as His mother pointed out.

I'd say it is later in John's text that presents Jesus placing some level of distance, when He turns to His mother and the disciple whom He loved and says, "Woman, behold your son. Son, behold your mother." By which He entrusts care of His mother to the disciple. This is an act of distance, but not disrespect. Jesus wouldn't have entrusted care for His mother to someone He trusted unless He was concerned for her.

In some commentaries an attempt is made to link the use of "woman" to theology; rooted in the notion that Mary as a kind of new Eve. She is the new woman, and the mother, of the people of God through her Son, Jesus. It is her unique participation in the new humanity of Christ by her motherly relation to Him. Thus for proponents of this idea, calling her "woman" is an act of great honor, whereby she becomes an essential part of Christ's redemptive work for the human race by her being mother of Christ and, therefore, mother of all the faithful.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.
John 2:4 KJV

Why Jesus disrespected his mother in such a manner?

Because God does not have mother being a eternal being . She gave birth to his Body . That's why born of virgin which is correct according to Bible but Quran too .

Isaiah 9:6
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Child born - flesh
Son given - given because he is eternal not born
He is The mighty God , The everlasting Father - God in flesh
 
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