Hate.
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I think this is a battle we all wrestle with, but God is able to do the impossible. Heb 4.12 tells us the Word of God is powerful enough to separate even soul from spirit.
The way out begins with realizing that the ground is level before the cross. Romans would be a good read. After listing a bunch of bad sins for which there is "no excuse", Ch 2 says we judge ourselves when we condemn others, because we too are guilty. "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God".
AISI, we can hate the sin, we can hate the condition men's souls are in, but we cannot hate the souls themselves. We should want the best even for the worst of sinners. I'm not saying we have to get exercised about that, unless the Holy Spirit leads us to, but we should keep ourselves clean of defilement.
When we get to the place of "Depart from me, Lord, for I am a sinful man" (lk 5.8), there is no longer much room for judging others eschatologically. It's not a fun place to be, but it is a place where we come to value the free grace of God, bestowed on sinners such as us, and the incalculable price He paid to make that grace available.
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I think that other's sins create shame within ourselves just by association, having to witness that. Jesus despised the shame that others generated in Him but He endured it for the joy that was set before Him. Shame strips away every earthly support, abandonment of friends, reputation mocked. He was angry but sinned not. My language is my downfall cause I react badly to perceived insults. I have to look at it as a refinement of basic skills associated to overcoming flesh, satan and the world. Resentment doesn't hurt them, just myself.
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I missed this one when I was so sleepy last night. I've learned over the years. Not to tell my sins, Because others will judge. It's just in our hearts to have feelings about things. But Yes. I hate myself for my sins. When I was younger. I was married to another woman. One day. I found another woman who I had more feelings for. And I met my wife at the door when she got home from work. I told her I had met someone and was leaving. That was the only sign she had. Just instantly like that. I tell you all, Yes. it's now years later, I have lived a hard life of learning lessons. And Yes. I Hate Myself. If I have one issue. It's that I know beyond any doubt. I deserve for people to hate me too... She was a good person. I was a young punk who thought I deserved better of everything and everyone. Yeah. I hate the person I used to be. So, Much. That I killed that person I used to be.
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We wont judge. Im glad you were open with what happen. Your past is part of your life, embrace it. Without your past in the world you wouldn't have a future in Christ.
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Many of us have things we deeply regret, and wish we could undo. It can be painful to let issues come up, but the cost of suppressing them is far too great in my estimation. And we are told anyway, that there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed. The Lord can handle our honesty, even if some people sometimes can't.
Not only does the Lord want to forgive us - that's the mercy side of it - He wants to extend grace as well. His supply of grace is infinite, we only have to open ourselves to it and ask. And keep on asking. That's the restoration side of it. We are new creatures in Him, and the old has passed away (2Cor 5.17), and His promise is that He will complete in us what He has started (Php 1.6). The more we resolve these inner issues, the more peace we have.
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Hate, envy, disappointment, etc, are all emotions that have gotten out of wack since the fall. People of the world give vent to these emotions in various ways but Scriptures tells us that we cannot trust our feelings. While in the Garden we had perfect understanding and control because we did not have the knowledge of evil, only good. But with our desire to be like God the world of evil was opened up to us and we are given the right to self-govern our own lives. In the Garden, we were allowed the run of the whole place with only one restriction. Likewise, outside the Garden of God, we find ourselves in a different garden whose owner has also given us one restriction, i.e. do not eat from the Tree of Life (Jesus) or listen to His words (Holy Scriptures). The Devil has opened up his whole kingdom to us but Scripture tells us to stay on the narrow path. We discover that path in the New Testament and we read it and like it but we don't do what it says so we find that we are on that other path, the broad path. This is the path that most Christians are on, you are not alone. That is the path where it is only necessary to say you are a Christian without actually following Christ's narrow way. Christ says, "vengeance is mine I will repay," and that we are not to pass judgment on others because we do not know how to judge correctly and if we do judge we are really passing judgment on ourselves because we put ourselves in the place of the Real Judge. Our mission is to take our eyes off the world and its violent sideshows and walk as Christ walked. If you fill yourself with television news and filthiness then you will experience the feelings and desires that you mention. Get control of your emotions by getting rid of the world in every way you can. You will not get any help from the modern church because they are all experiencing the same things you experience. Bring up the subject of Christians killing in war or the subject of abortion, for example, and you will find that most are only "pro live birth" and not pro-life like Jesus was pro-life. Christians today love death and killing: books, movies, internet, newspaper. Even their sports must be seasoned with enough violence to make them exciting and worth watching. So, you see, you are not alone. Do you want to be a Christian, then be done with all of that. You must cleanse the inside of the vessel first.
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No, I was egotistical, At the time, I thought I wanted better. I was a different person back then.
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Hate the sin, chastise and correct the sinner. And if he does not listen to you take it to the leaders of the church and if he does not listen to them then there are only two choices. Shut him down or shut up yourself. Which do we who follow God do?
I accidentally saw a video on YouTube about Mexican drug cartels having caught another cartel member in their territory, (I guess that's what it was. I speak English, not Spanish) Anyway, I really thought it was a game of sorts until they did what they did and like you I won't describe how horrific, how unhuman (inhumane is too nice) it was. On the other hand, if people could see this with their own eyes, hear what these cretins do on a regular basis, they might also realize that our milk-toast policies in America are getting more innocent people killed every day. From the drugs they push on America and from what their own governments allow them to get away with out of fear. People are coming here because evil has taken over their own nations and the only thing their governments know how to do is kneel and quiver. Now, all ours will do in response is to also kneel and quiver and shake in order to keep their well paid offices and also to give in to the three cousins knows as communism, socialism, and Marxism. We have handed our country over to evil men and women to do evil things. Also we put in office weak men and women who bow to the evil and do their bidding and that includes throwing stumbling blocks in front of the very few that actually WANT to do good for God's sake. But we also have something they do not have because they laugh it away. We have God. "If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land." This was true for Israel then and it is for any nation that humbles itself toward God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Two nations that humble themselves before God and are in once accord will defeat any one nation that stands against God.
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I have been running a youtube channel for several years. I think I know the video you are talking about. Yeah. That video is one of the worst things I've ever witnessed people do to other people. It's the kind of thing that once you see it. It affects you, You can't ever really forget it. That's part of the reason I am the way I am, I'm basically a hermit. I almost never leave my home and I don't really associate with people really often. There is a lot of evil in the world, A lot of Crazy in it. I know as a Christian we are supposed to be out there shining a light. But the world has truly gone insane
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On the cross, Jesus said "father forgive them for they know not what they do"
In Paul's letter to the Ephesians he encouraged people to be angry and sin not by letting the sun go down on their anger
Anger that is not released to Christ develops into hate and hate hardens our hearts which makes us like the people who hurt us. That is not good. Hate is like drinking poison, it kills us and does nothing to the person we are hating.
When we release our hate to Christ, we are taking the person(s) who hurt us off of our hook and put them on God's hook to deal with. I'm a victim of child abuse. So, I know what I am talking about.
Futhermore, have you forgiven yourself about the kind of person you once were like God has forgiven you or do you still hate yourself for your past. If so, that might be a good place to begin dealing with your hate.
What may help you that helped me is writing a letter or letters to those who hurt you that now you hate, list what they did and say that you release your hate for them into Christ's hands. Put the letters in a metal trash can, burn them and then cast them to the wind as a physical way of letting it go. Sometimes you feel something when you do it, but don't wait for emotions for letting go is not a feeling but an act of the will.
I hope this helps.
In Paul's letter to the Ephesians he encouraged people to be angry and sin not by letting the sun go down on their anger
Anger that is not released to Christ develops into hate and hate hardens our hearts which makes us like the people who hurt us. That is not good. Hate is like drinking poison, it kills us and does nothing to the person we are hating.
When we release our hate to Christ, we are taking the person(s) who hurt us off of our hook and put them on God's hook to deal with. I'm a victim of child abuse. So, I know what I am talking about.
Futhermore, have you forgiven yourself about the kind of person you once were like God has forgiven you or do you still hate yourself for your past. If so, that might be a good place to begin dealing with your hate.
What may help you that helped me is writing a letter or letters to those who hurt you that now you hate, list what they did and say that you release your hate for them into Christ's hands. Put the letters in a metal trash can, burn them and then cast them to the wind as a physical way of letting it go. Sometimes you feel something when you do it, but don't wait for emotions for letting go is not a feeling but an act of the will.
I hope this helps.
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Jesus said, “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. (Matthew 5:43-48).
The world teaches us to hate but Jesus teaches us to love. It is not at all easy to love those who victimize the weak and the innocent, but if it was not possible, we wouldn't have been told to do it. It requires a generosity of soul which we don't naturally feel in our hearts but Jesus enables us to behave in a supernatural way through His holiness and His indwelling Spirit. The likely reason that Jesus told us to pray for those who persecute us (and the persecuted includes innocent children as the heirs to the Kingdom) it is impossible to pray for someone and retain hatred in your heart for that person. We should always be praying for the spiritual maturity to do as Christ commands. And if you fail, He forgives you by the power of His Blood. He has succeeded where we often fail. Blessings and we all will pray that this "thorn of bitterness" will be removed from your heart. Your hatred does nothing to harm the object of your hatred--it only harms you.
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JesUS is example of a human (and God) who had every reason to hate what was happening to Him. Yet He did not speak in self defense. His words were forgive them for they know not what they do. let me add those people you mention are not aware of the spiritual forces of darkness controlling their thoughts. Remember
it is written:
Mt 6:14 1For if you forgive men their offenses, your heavenly Father will forgive you also;
Mt 6:15 But if you do not forgive men their offenses, neither will your Father forgive your offenses.
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