THE SABBATH IS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT - WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS IT IS ABOLISHED?

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Hello all,

This thread is for friendly discussion only. So please be nice here.

The challenge I am putting up here is for anyone to show even one scripture that says God's 4th Commandment of the 10 commandments (Exodus 20:8-11) which was spoken and written by God himself to his people, has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day.

Can anyone please show me where in all the bible does is say (SOLA SCRIPTURA; Scripture only please)...

1. That God's 4th commandments 7th day Sabbath has been abolished?

2. That Jesus is a Sabbath?

3. The Sabbath (seventh day) was ever changed from the seventh to the first day of the week?

4. Where we are told to keep the first day of the week holy?

5. Where the first day of the week (Sunday) is ever called a holy day?

6. That says that Jesus ever kept the first day (Sunday)?

7. That tells us to keep the first day in honour of the resurrection of Christ?

8. Where the first day is ever given any sacred name?

9. That affirms that any of the apostles ever kept the first day as the Sabbath?

10. From any apostolic writings that authorizes Sunday observance as the Sabbath of God?

11. Where we are told not to work on the first day of the week?

12. That says the seventh day is no longer God's Sabbath day?

13. That says the seventh day Sabbath is ABOLISHED?

14. Where the apostles ever taught any convert to keep the first day of the week as a Sabbath?

15. Where the first day was ever appointed to be kept as the Lord's Day?

16. Where the first day of the week is ever called the Lord's Day?

17. That says that the first day of the week was ever sanctified and hallowed as a day of rest?

18. That says that the Father or the Son (Jesus) rested on the first day of the week?

19. That says that Jesus, Paul or any other of the apostles taught anyone to observe the first day of the week as the Sabbath?

20. That calls the seventh day the “Jewish Sabbath” or one text that calls Sunday the “Christian Sabbath”?

21. Telling man to keep the first day of the week holy or to worship or rest on the first day of the week?

22. Authorizing anyone to set aside God's Sabbath and observe any other day?

23. Showing any of the apostles keeping the first day of the week as the Sabbath?

24. Authorizing someone to set aside the fourth Commandment and observe any other day of the week?

25. Where any apostle taught us to keep the first day of the week as the Sabbath?

26. Declaring that the seventh day is no longer the Eternal Sabbath day?

27. Where Sunday is now appointed to be kept as the New Testament Sabbath or holy day?

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Something to think about here because we are all accountable to God come judgment day where we will all be judged by the Word of God (John 12:47-48).

God's Word makes it very clear that if we follow the teachings of men over the Word of God we are not following God...

MATTHEW 15:3-9 [3],
[3], But he answered and said unto them, Why do you also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
[4], For God commanded, saying, Honor your father and mother: and, He that curses father or mother, let him die the death.
[5], But you say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift devoted to God, whatsoever you might have received from me;
[6], And honors not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have you made the commandment of God void by your tradition.
[7], You hypocrites, well did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying,
[8], These people draw near unto me with their mouth, and honor me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
[9], But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

If we are KNOWINGLY breaking ANY of God's commandments we are not worshipping God.

Look forward to your thoughts....

Hebrews chapters 8_&_9; Col 2:16

KJV Hebrews 8:1 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;
2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.
3 For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer.
4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:
5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.
6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

KJV Hebrews 9:1 Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.
2 For there was a tabernacle made; the first, wherein was the candlestick, and the table, and the shewbread; which is called the sanctuary.
3 And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all;
4 Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;
5 And over it the cherubims of glory shadowing the mercyseat; of which we cannot now speak particularly.
6 Now when these things were thus ordained, the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God.
7 But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:
8 The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:
9 Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;
10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
18 Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.
19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,
20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.
21 Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.
22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;
26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
 
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Linguistics - We are not dealing with Paul writing in the King's English... He wrote in Hebrew and it was translated or he wrote in Greek (or both perhaps?) and regardless of the language, it wasn't English.

Agreed! But it MUST BE recognized that in all three languages, the grammatic use of "singular" still tells us how many persons are included or referenced in a verse or phrase.

Whenever, in over a hundred reference verses, God said "I AM THE GOD," and "I AM THE BEING" consistently using SINGULAR NOUN, VERB, DEFINITE ARTICLE, AND PRONOUN, the reader should take time to reflect why the Grammar is consistent, in demonstrating God is a single-person Being.

No Linguist would miss this.
 
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No... you ARE making stuff up to make yourself look good in a debate. With this becoming circular, you can just carry on with others. I don't mind disagreement, but when there isn't even an attempt to factor in established and recorded history... then this isn't about truth for you, it's about being correct.

You need to point out - clearly and simply - where you think I am an error. You haven't done that yet
 
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Can't live on yesterday's manna (Exodus 16:20). Moses is old manna. Jesus is the bread of life that is fresh every day coming down from heaven and giving life to the world (John 6:23), not yesterday's ministration of death through Moses.

GOD told Israel at Sinai to listen to Moses. In the fullness of time that he foretold through his prophets, GOD said to listen to Jesus, not Moses (Matthew 17:5, Deuteronomy 18:18-19, John 12:48-49)

Arr I see, so in your view when Jesus says man does not live by bread alone but by EVERY WORD that proceeds out of the mouth of God (Matthew 4:4) and 2 Timothy 3:16 says that All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, it is not really true if it does not agree with you.

The OLD COVENANT has GIVEN way to the NEW, but if you do not KNOW what the OLD is how can you know what thie NEW is?

Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it over the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God.

Do you have any scriptures to share?

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 
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So Exodus 34 is fluff? And Deuteronomy 5 is redundant? Biblical scholarship attempts to explain these sorts of problems.It has certainly been helpful to this Christian.

No my friend only pointing you to the origin of the 10 Commandments spoken by God in Exodus 20:8-11.
 
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Hebrews chapters 8_&_9; Col 2:16

KJV Hebrews 8:1 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;
2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.
3 For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer.
4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:
5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.
6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

KJV Hebrews 9:1 Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.
2 For there was a tabernacle made; the first, wherein was the candlestick, and the table, and the shewbread; which is called the sanctuary.
3 And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all;
4 Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;
5 And over it the cherubims of glory shadowing the mercyseat; of which we cannot now speak particularly.
6 Now when these things were thus ordained, the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God.
7 But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:
8 The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:
9 Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;
10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
18 Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.
19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,
20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.
21 Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.
22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;
26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Hello Theo Book,

Nice to meet you and welcome here. Did you want to explain your post? Where is the scripture that says God's 4th commandment is abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day?

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
 
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The OLD COVENANT has GIVEN way to the NEW, but if you do not KNOW what the OLD is how can you know what thie NEW is?

The new is the teachings of Jesus and his apostles.
 
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The new is the teachings of Jesus and his apostles.

The OLD TESTAMENT scriptures are not DELETED by the NEW TESTAMENT. Together these are the two great witnesses. Everything from the NEW comes from the OLD and is fulfilled or being fulfilled in the NEW. Together these are EVERY WORD and ALL scripture referred to in Matthew 4:4 and 2 Timothy 3:16 that we are to live by. Faith is the victory.
 
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You need to point out - clearly and simply - where you think I am an error. You haven't done that yet
Yes I have... I pointed out that the Talmud was not compiled until the 4th century and it is the first place we see the idea of a Noachide law. Since we have NO EVIDENCE of it in the first century, then your statement that the Acts 15 letters was bringing gentiles into the Noachide law is wrong. I did say this, I just said it in a way as to NOT call you "wrong" because I can't stand strife between brothers... neither can God (see Pro. 6:16-19). If you NEED me to actually point out the historical errors you have made, I will. I would think, however, it would be more profitable to find a place of agreement, even if in disagreement, and more on to another topic another day. We will not see eye to eye here because the lens through which we both see is not the same one.

Blessings.
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The OLD TESTAMENT scriptures are not DELETED by the NEW TESTAMENT. Together these are the two great witnesses. Everything from the NEW comes from the OLD and is fulfilled in the NEW. Together these are EVERY WORD and ALL scripture referred to in Matthew 4:4 and 2 Timothy 3:16 that we are to live by. Faith is the victory.

No of course the NT doesn't delete the OT; it fulfills it. Everything in the OT is a shadow of the reality - Christ. Christ supersedes and subsumes everything in the OT.

If you put the OT on par with the NT, like you're doing, then it destroys Christ's authority and makes it impossible to understand the supremacy of the NT over the OT, and of Jesus over Moses.

Faith in Christ and following his words is victory. There's no victory in a faith in all of GOD's words thrown in a blender set on high.
 
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No of course the NT doesn't delete the OT; it fulfills it. Everything in the OT is a shadow of the reality - Christ. Christ supersedes and subsumes everything in the OT.

If you put the OT on par with the NT, like you're doing, then it destroys Christ's authority and makes it impossible to understand the supremacy of the NT over the OT, and of Jesus over Moses.

Faith in Christ and following his words is victory. There's no victory in a faith in all of GOD's words thrown in a blender set on high.

Not at all my friend,

If you do not understand the OLD Testament or the OLD COVENANT how can you understand what the new TESTAMENT says or what the NEW COVENANT is?

Here is your mistake. Not everything in the OLD COVENANT is a shadow. You mix up the Shadows with that which is eternal. It is the OLD that is the key that UNLOCKS the NEW. If you throw away your key how will you open the door that is locked?

You think God's LAW (10 Commandments) is abolished because you do not understand the purpose of the laws in the OLD COVENANT, and mix up the shadows with those that are eternal. This is why the scrptures were shared with you ealier.

MATTHEW 4:4 [4], Man does not live by bread alone but by EVERY WORD that proceeds from the mouth of God.

2 TIMOTHY 3:16 [16], All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

...............

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 
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I pointed out that the Talmud was not compiled until the 4th century and it is the first place we see the idea of a Noachide law.

It appeared before that as 7 laws in the Tosefta, circa late 2nd century. The whole concept didn't just magically appear, but was developed over centuries. In the 1st century it contained 4 laws as evidenced by Acts 15.

Since we have NO EVIDENCE of it in the first century, then your statement that the Acts 15 letters was bringing gentiles into the Noachide law is wrong.

The Jewish Encyclopedia states that the decree of the Acts 15 council were Noahide laws. I don't think they would make that statement without evidence.

If you NEED me to actually point out the historical errors you have made, I will.

I think you need to do that because obviously you have been wrong about several things, that I have had to point out.
 
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No of course the NT doesn't delete the OT; it fulfills it. Everything in the OT is a shadow of the reality - Christ. Christ supersedes and subsumes everything in the OT.

If you put the OT on par with the NT, like you're doing, then it destroys Christ's authority and makes it impossible to understand the supremacy of the NT over the OT, and of Jesus over Moses.

Faith in Christ and following his words is victory. There's no victory in a faith in all of GOD's words thrown in a blender set on high.
Definitions. Fullfill doesn't mean bring an end to... it means filled up but for what purpose? We don't ask... we just assume it means an end to something. But this verse alone proves that definition is wrong.

Matt 5:17 "Do not think that I came to destroy/abolish/do away with the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy/abolish/do away with but to fulfill.

Since the "law is dead" crowd treats the above verse as fulfill meaning "do away with" then this is what we are making it say:

Matt 5:17 "Do not think that I came to do away with the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to do away with but to do away with.

Out interpretation of this verse makes it contradict itself! Fulfill CAN'T MEAN do away with or abolish because not only does this verse then contradict itself, it contradicts the next two verses. Here is one other definition of pleroo (fulfill) that actually fits without causing disharmony:

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2c3) to fulfil, i.e. to cause God’s will (as made known in the law) to be obeyed as it should be, and God’s promises (given through the prophets) to receive fulfilment

In other words, fulfill in the sense of revealing the fullness of the INTENT so that we know how to properly walk before God! It means Yeshua came and walked it our and now stands as our model that we can follow.
 
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If you do not understand the OLD Testament or the OLD COVENANT how can you understand what the new TESTAMENT says or what the OLD COVENANT is?

Very easily - through faith. The Ethiopian eunuch couldn't understand what the OT was saying, but when Philip explained the gospel (the NT) his eyes were opened and he believed and was saved. He didn't understand the OT until he understood the NT. That's the way it works.
 
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Here is your mistake. Not everything in the OLD COVENANT is a shadow. You mix up the Shadows with that which is eternal. It is the OLD that is the key that UNLOCKS the NEW. If you throw away your key how will you open the door that is locked?

10 commandments written in stone are not eternal. GOD is eternal.

The NT unlocks the OT. You have it exactly backwards.
 
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You think God's LAW is abolished because you do not understand the purpose of the laws in the OLD COVENANT, and mix up the shadows with those that are eternal. This is why the scrptures were shared with you ealier.

The purpose of the law was to magnify sin so that men would be compelled towards faith, and to establish a legal framework for Christ's death.
 
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Very easily - through faith. The Ethiopian eunuch couldn't understand what the OT was saying, but when Philip explained the gospel (the NT) his eyes were opened and he believed and was saved. He didn't understand the OT until he understood the NT. That's the way it works.

Arr but did the Ethiopian have someone that understood the OLD explain it to him? Phillip explained the OLD Testament scriptures that the Ethiopian was reading from Isaiah..

ACTS 8:26-35
[26], And the angel of the Lord spoke unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goes down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert.
[27], And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, a eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem to worship,
[28], Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Isaiah the prophet.
[29], Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join yourself to this chariot.
[30], And Philip ran to him, and heard him read the prophet Isaiah, and said, Do you understand what you read?
[31], And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.
[32], The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:
[33], In his humiliation his justice was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth.
[34], And the eunuch asked Philip, and said, I pray you, of whom speaks the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?
[35], Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

Yep Phillip had the key to unlock the NEW. You do know that the OLD Testament was the Bible in the days of Jesus right?
 
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Definitions. Fullfill doesn't mean bring an end to... it means filled up but for what purpose? We don't ask... we just assume it means an end to something. But this verse alone proves that definition is wrong.

Fulfill means that something's purpose has been fulfilled. Once that happens with something it is no longer need.
 
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10 commandments written in stone are not eternal. GOD is eternal.

Sorry συνείδησις, God's Word disagrees with you...

GODS ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) ARE FOREVER

The Law of God (10 commandments) which includes the 4th commandment is the work of God (Exodus 32:16) whatsoever God does is forever nothing can be added to it or taken away (Ecclesiastes 3:14). God's Law is perfect converting the soul (Psalms 19:7). It is the very standard of the Old and New Covenants (Exodus 20:1:17, Hebrews 8:10-12).

God's Law was spoken by God himself to His people (Exodus 20:1-22). Jesus says Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away (Matthew 25:35). Gods Law is still in force today (Psalms 111:7-8, Revelation 12:17, 14:12, 22:14, 1 John 3:5-8, 1 John 2:3-4 etc.). The Law of God reveals sin to us so we can see ourselves as we truly are sinners in need of a Saviour (Romans 3:20; 1 John 3:4).

It is the great standard of the judgement (Ecclesiastes 12:13-14, James 2:10-12, 1 John 3:4, Acts 17:31). God's Law is our teacher revealing sin and the character of God and brings us to Christ at the foot of the cross that we might be saved by faith by Him who loves us and washed us in His own blood (Galatians 3:24; Revelation 1:5). Jesus came not to abolish the law, but to fulfil it (Matthew 5:17-20 ).

The law is the embodiment of truth that instructs ( Romans 2:18-19 ). It is "holy" and "spiritual, " making sin known to us by defining it; therefore, Paul delights in it ( Romans 7:7-14Romans 7:22). The law is good if used properly (1 Tim 1:8 ), and is not opposed to the promises of God ( Galatians 3:21 ).

Faith does not make the law void, but the Christian establishes the law (Romans 3:31), fulfilling its requirements by walking according to the Spirit (Romans 8:4) through love (Romans 13:10).

You cannot know the power of God or the Gospel of Grace without the 10 commandments. If there is NO LAW then you do not know what SIN is (James 2:11; Romans 7:7; Romans 3:20; 1 John 3:4).

If you do not know what SIN is you have NO need of a Savior. If you have NO need of a Savior you have NO Salvation. If you have NO Salvation you are LOST because it is written.

Romans 2:12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law.

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Arr but did the Ethiopian have someone that understood the OLD explain it to him? Phillip explained the OLD Testament scriptures that the Ethiopian was reading from Isaiah..

Yep Phillip had the key to unlock the NEW. You do know that the OLD Testament was the Bible in the days of Jesus right?

He used the OT to proclaim Jesus, not to proclaim the OT itself. The OT merely points to Jesus. We are to live in the reality, not the shadows.
 
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