Days of Vengeance

If you are interested in learning more about Postmil Preterism David Chilton's work Days of Vengeance can be downloaded and read here.

gordRedeemed said:

are you leaning towards Preterism JM?

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Nah, I view Matthew 24 as referencing to a.d. 70 but understand Revelation more like a Historicisit. I can see some recapitulating of events like the idealist view but not with consistency or without some major problems. The folks I attend church with are Presbyterian and most of them, those willing to talk abut eschatology are Postmil Preterists. They recommended the book to me and after reading it I can see why. It is technical, but you will have a much better understanding of their position after reading it.

Thanks gord.

Chilton present a lot of facts, history and nuances to Judaism that I'm not sure even first century Jews would have understood. We assume they knew but if believers then are anything like now, even when compared to modern zealous believers, it becomes apparent that we assume too much. I still would recommend Chilton's work but have a hard time believing the Christians of the first century knew every detail and meaning of the ritual and prophecies of the Old Testament. Polycarp seems to intimate that antichrist was yet future. Are they any church fathers who put forth the modern Preterist (and by Preterist I refer to orthodox/partial Preterism) view?

Scripture interprets scripture. Scripture also interprets history as we see in Daniel's visions. I have a hard time believing Revelation has taken place in the past (Preterism) or yet to take place (futurism, Dispensationalism), rather, I see Revelation as unfolding history now. We see Christ conquering through the Gospel, Satan being bound and Christ as King through all of it. What I'm not so sure about is whether Revelation is a history recapitulated or a chronological unfolding. E. B. Elliot's classic work Horae Apocalypticae explains how THE PROTESTANT ESCHATOLOGY was exchanged for Preterism (see wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preterism) or Futurism (wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Ribera), both creations of Jesuits to remove the identity of antichrist from papal Rome.

It's all very edifying, to God be the glory, amen.

jm

Bumping this one up.

Updating link: https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&sour...7DKlxYAbBYfTXZ09Q&sig2=Y0bRJvgWb4wncNYNUNzkzA

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Looks interesting. Probably Historicist.

Let's face it, either the Pope/Papacy is what it says it is, or it's antichrist. We can't take a middle of the road approach to it. Either the Pope/Papacy stands in place of Christ until He returns (keys and all) or the Pope/Papacy is teaching a false religious system.

jm