Jesus Christ, God, between death and resurrection?

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Jesus the LORD allowed Himself to humanly speaking die and it could not be that he merely slept in death in the tomb.

Part of our salvation is that Jesus took from Satan the keys of death and Hell. Satan completely lost his title "Morning Star". Both from Revelation. Maybe here he became Ichabod.

Jesus was stronger, the strong man who raided the adversary's house. From the Gospel passage about Jesus and Beelzebul.

Jesus was fulfilling his word about and the life of the prophet Jonah. The resurrection was the sign of Jonah.

Somehow not described by Peter or John, and lost in time is the message about how Jesus overcame the hate and darkness and evil of death in Satan and all the evil spirits and fallen angels in Hell. I think God the Son was in agony there by being separate from his Father, as in Jonah looking to the temple. Jesus sensitive Spirit of light and love, kind wisdom and hands and face that made for "the bossom of Abraham" was now at war, with direct contact with evil ones. They were trying to overcome the King's Son to make his power under their rule and whim. From the Gospel passage about the tenants in the Vineyard.

Christ overcoming all of death and uncleanness further authored our salvation. How was it done...?

I want to ask other Christians what they think!?
 

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Jesus the LORD allowed Himself to humanly speaking die and it could not be that he merely slept in death in the tomb.

Part of our salvation is that Jesus took from Satan the keys of death and Hell. Satan completely lost his title "Morning Star". Both from Revelation. Maybe here he became Ichabod.

Jesus was stronger, the strong man who raided the adversary's house. From the Gospel passage about Jesus and Beelzebul.

Jesus was fulfilling his word about and the life of the prophet Jonah. The resurrection was the sign of Jonah.

Somehow not described by Peter or John, and lost in time is the message about how Jesus overcame the hate and darkness and evil of death in Satan and all the evil spirits and fallen angels in Hell. I think God the Son was in agony there by being separate from his Father, as in Jonah looking to the temple. Jesus sensitive Spirit of light and love, kind wisdom and hands and face that made for "the bossom of Abraham" was now at war, with direct contact with evil ones. They were trying to overcome the King's Son to make his power under their rule and whim. From the Gospel passage about the tenants in the Vineyard.

Christ overcoming all of death and uncleanness further authored our salvation. How was it done...?

I want to ask other Christians what they think!?
I worship the Jesus you read about in Revelation. That's what I think. Jesus placed in trust in the Father. "Father into your hands I commit my spirit" God was with Him. Jesus willed and the Spirit of God would act. His source of power and wisdom forever. Therefore Jesus could take up His life again and yet it was by the eternal Spirit. So Jesus taking up His life again and God raising Him from the dead are both true. I don't think Abraham would have been in a prison with those who were disobedient and died in the flood. Jesus preached to the spirits in prison. They were judged according to the flesh that they may live according to the spirit. As they died apart from law and long before the light of the gospel message. God is just and redeemed them through the blood of His lamb.
 
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I worship the Jesus you read about in Revelation. I used Revelation for this thread.

That's what I think. Jesus placed in trust in the Father. "Father into your hands I commit my spirit" God was with Him.

Jesus also said "My Father why have you forsaken me." And "Gods eyes are too pure to look upon sin."

Jesus willed and the Spirit of God would act.

I think Jesus set the example for us of obeying the Spirit and relying on Him instead of self. This for our sake since Jesus had infinite power.

His source of power and wisdom forever.

Jesus in glory by his own power is equal to the Spirit, his source mainly in life as a servant. Again for our sake.

Therefore Jesus could take up His life again and yet it was by the eternal Spirit. So Jesus taking up His life again and God raising Him from the dead are both true.

John 2, and Jesus says he will raise himself from the dead. Elsewhere the Father does and yes the Spirit raises him, after he finished his task. Which involved?

I don't think Abraham would have been in a prison with those who were disobedient and died in the flood.

Abraham was in paradise and the Son of God made it light and delightful, life and beauty... then the Son is incarnate and lives, then he is the wonderful one now in the presence of death... that is what I was saying, not that Abraham was in Hell.

Jesus preached to the spirits in prison. They were judged according to the flesh that they may live according to the spirit.

How so?

As they died apart from law and long before the light of the gospel message. God is just and redeemed them through the blood of His lamb.

And was the blood ready to redeem them by then? Those who died in the flood never heard a message of repentance, there was only Noah to preach. Grace and repentance matters more than the law.
 
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Jesus also said "My Father why have you forsaken me." And "Gods eyes are too pure to look upon sin."



I think Jesus set the example for us of obeying the Spirit and relying on Him instead of self. This for our sake since Jesus had infinite power.



Jesus in glory by his own power is equal to the Spirit, his source mainly in life as a servant. Again for our sake.



John 2, and Jesus says he will raise himself from the dead. Elsewhere the Father does and yes the Spirit raises him, after he finished his task. Which involved?



Abraham was in paradise and the Son of God made it light and delightful, life and beauty... then the Son is incarnate and lives, then he is the wonderful one now in the presence of death... that is what I was saying, not that Abraham was in Hell.



How so?



And was the blood ready to redeem them by then? Those who died in the flood never heard a message of repentance, there was only Noah to preach. Grace and repentance matters more than the law.
Your response is the difference between seeking understanding and a ambush question. I suggest you read what Peter wrote in regard to Jesus preaching to the spirits in prison. The rest I don't care to get involved in a endless debate. The Jesus in Rev is plain for all to read. As Jesus prayed to the Father "glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began". I would also also state as the Son Jesus could state how He felt (Not the Father) at any given moment. Ref psalm 22. Unlike Jesus David sinned yet God didn't forsake Him. Jesus still put His trust in God,"Father into your hands I commit my spirit"
 
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Your response is the difference between seeking understanding and a ambush question. I suggest you read what Peter wrote in regard to Jesus preaching to the spirits in prison. The rest I don't care to get involved in a endless debate. The Jesus in Rev is plain for all to read. As Jesus prayed to the Father "glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began". I would also also state as the Son Jesus could state how He felt (Not the Father) at any given moment. Ref psalm 22. Unlike Jesus David sinned yet God didn't forsake Him. Jesus still put His trust in God,"Father into your hands I commit my spirit"
Pardon me for the antagonism, you see Grudem and Erickson in their theology books don't agree that the Peter quote refers to Jesus going to Hades... There needs be something to chew on, tough, irrefutable exegesis.
 
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Christ did not suffer in Hell like the false teachers say. But He did go to hell to lead the captivity captive where they were in Paradise, really a part of hell, but a nice part. Hell the place where the dead go after death was divided in 2 parts, refer to Abraham's bosom, one part, fiery torment, the other paradise.

Christ had to fill all things, which includes His going to hell.

Ephesians 4:8-10 New King James Version (NKJV)
8 Therefore He says:

“When He ascended on high,
He led captivity captive,
And gave gifts to men.”

9 (Now this, “He ascended”—what does it mean but that He also [a]first descended into the lower parts of the earth? 10 He who descended is also the One who ascended far above all the heavens, that He might fill all things.)

Acts 2:27
For You will not leave my soul in Hades, Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption.

Acts 2:31
he, foreseeing this, spoke concerning the resurrection of the Christ, that His soul was not left in Hades, nor did His flesh see corruption.

So obviously Christ went to hades, hell, temporarily, that He might fill all things..
 
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Christ did not suffer in Hell like the false teachers say. But He did go to hell to lead the captivity captive where they were in Paradise, really a part of hell, but a nice part. Hell the place where the dead go after death was divided in 2 parts, refer to Abraham's bosom, one part, fiery torment, the other paradise.

Christ had to fill all things, which includes His going to hell.

Ephesians 4:8-10 New King James Version (NKJV)
8 Therefore He says:

“When He ascended on high,
He led captivity captive,
And gave gifts to men.”

9 (Now this, “He ascended”—what does it mean but that He also [a]first descended into the lower parts of the earth? 10 He who descended is also the One who ascended far above all the heavens, that He might fill all things.)

Acts 2:27
For You will not leave my soul in Hades, Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption.

Acts 2:31
he, foreseeing this, spoke concerning the resurrection of the Christ, that His soul was not left in Hades, nor did His flesh see corruption.

So obviously Christ went to hades, hell, temporarily, that He might fill all things..
In the resurrection Jesus demonstrated death had lost it's power, so it must have tried to hold him, and been crushed. I want to see what other Christians think. I will quote Millard J Erickson later.
 
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Pardon me for the antagonism, you see Grudem and Erickson in their theology books don't agree that the Peter quote refers to Jesus going to Hades... There needs be something to chew on, tough, irrefutable exegesis.
I don’t know them. I know what Peter wrote. Who the spirits in prison were and they were judged according to the flesh that they might live according to the spirit. Hence their souls were spared. Jesus didn’t preach to them to rub it in. I know what I read of Abraham so wherever that place was it would be with righteous dead not those judged because of disobedience. Reasoning would suggest Abraham wasn’t imprisoned. To me that’s a false premise.
 
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Jesus also said "My Father why have you forsaken me." And "Gods eyes are too pure to look upon sin."



I think Jesus set the example for us of obeying the Spirit and relying on Him instead of self. This for our sake since Jesus had infinite power.



Jesus in glory by his own power is equal to the Spirit, his source mainly in life as a servant. Again for our sake.



John 2, and Jesus says he will raise himself from the dead. Elsewhere the Father does and yes the Spirit raises him, after he finished his task. Which involved?



Abraham was in paradise and the Son of God made it light and delightful, life and beauty... then the Son is incarnate and lives, then he is the wonderful one now in the presence of death... that is what I was saying, not that Abraham was in Hell.



How so?



And was the blood ready to redeem them by then? Those who died in the flood never heard a message of repentance, there was only Noah to preach. Grace and repentance matters more than the law.
Jesus of Nazareth stated my god my god why have you forsaking me. He didn’t state he couldn’t bare to look on sin. Did Jesus who many see as God literally become sin? Was he no longer God? Can God turn His back on Himself? To me another false premise to think the Father who lives in Jesus ever left Him. In fact just the opposite my assumption is after Jesus stated those words God comforted Him with a loving touch in Jesus’s inner being. Jesus in His agony made that statement on how He, not the Father, felt.
 
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Hab 1:12 Art thou not from everlasting, O LORD my God, mine Holy One? we shall not die. O LORD, thou hast ordained them for judgment; and, O mighty God, thou hast established them for correction.
Hab 1:13 Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity: wherefore lookest thou upon them that deal treacherously, and holdest thy tongue when the wicked devoureth the man that is more righteous than he? KJV

Mar 15:33 And when the sixth hour was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour.
Mar 15:34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Mar 15:35 And some of them that stood by, when they heard it, said, Behold, he calleth Elias.
Mar 15:36 And one ran and filled a spunge full of vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink, saying, Let alone; let us see whether Elias will come to take him down.
Mar 15:37 And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost.
Mar 15:38 And the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom. KJV

Joh 19:28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst.
Joh 19:29 Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth.
Joh 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. KJV

Mat 27:33 And when they were come unto a place called Golgotha, that is to say, a place of a skull,
Mat 27:34 They gave him vinegar to drink mingled with gall: and when he had tasted thereof, he would not drink. KJV

2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. KJV

All this shows that in death, Jesus knew no comfort. Neither spiritual, nor worldly. Only that John would look after his mother Mary. The land was dark as God in Heaven would not look.

Jesus would not take the ancient pain killer, of foul taste, until his last seconds with no time to take effect.

When Jesus died the veil to the ark of the covenant was opened, as Jesus body was broken so the faithful can come to God through Christ.

It is a point of theology that God cannot change, therefore the Trinity could not be broken, God cannot die, the Christ remains light and love by nature... It all enforces the price Jesus paid was great, it hurt immensely. Not just the wounds but the experience of becoming sin, not deserving it, and being in some way cut off from the Father. That is why I mentioned The Son and his spiritual sensitivity, his gracious presence and hand and face and inner parts that made for the bosom of Abraham and it's paradise delights. Also that Jesus the Son of God had to become a man of war against sin and death.

God's folly is greater than man's wisdom.
1Co 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
1Co 1:22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
1Co 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1Co 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1Co 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men. KJV

I am open to changing my mind. I would like to go through this event with other Christians.

Jesus of Nazareth stated my god my god why have you forsaking me. He didn’t state he couldn’t bare to look on sin. Did Jesus who many see as God literally become sin? Was he no longer God? Can God turn His back on Himself? To me another false premise to think the Father who lives in Jesus ever left Him. In fact just the opposite my assumption is after Jesus stated those words God comforted Him with a loving touch in Jesus’s inner being. Jesus in His agony made that statement on how He, not the Father, felt.
 
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Hab 1:12 Art thou not from everlasting, O LORD my God, mine Holy One? we shall not die. O LORD, thou hast ordained them for judgment; and, O mighty God, thou hast established them for correction.
Hab 1:13 Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity: wherefore lookest thou upon them that deal treacherously, and holdest thy tongue when the wicked devoureth the man that is more righteous than he? KJV

Mar 15:33 And when the sixth hour was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour.
Mar 15:34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Mar 15:35 And some of them that stood by, when they heard it, said, Behold, he calleth Elias.
Mar 15:36 And one ran and filled a spunge full of vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink, saying, Let alone; let us see whether Elias will come to take him down.
Mar 15:37 And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost.
Mar 15:38 And the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom. KJV

Joh 19:28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst.
Joh 19:29 Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth.
Joh 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. KJV

Mat 27:33 And when they were come unto a place called Golgotha, that is to say, a place of a skull,
Mat 27:34 They gave him vinegar to drink mingled with gall: and when he had tasted thereof, he would not drink. KJV

2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. KJV

All this shows that in death, Jesus knew no comfort. Neither spiritual, nor worldly. Only that John would look after his mother Mary. The land was dark as God in Heaven would not look.

Jesus would not take the ancient pain killer, of foul taste, until his last seconds with no time to take effect.

When Jesus died the veil to the ark of the covenant was opened, as Jesus body was broken so the faithful can come to God through Christ.

It is a point of theology that God cannot change, therefore the Trinity could not be broken, God cannot die, the Christ remains light and love by nature... It all enforces the price Jesus paid was great, it hurt immensely. Not just the wounds but the experience of becoming sin, not deserving it, and being in some way cut off from the Father. That is why I mentioned The Son and his spiritual sensitivity, his gracious presence and hand and face and inner parts that made for the bosom of Abraham and it's paradise delights. Also that Jesus the Son of God had to become a man of war against sin and death.

God's folly is greater than man's wisdom.
1Co 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
1Co 1:22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
1Co 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1Co 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1Co 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men. KJV

I am open to changing my mind. I would like to go through this event with other Christians.
He was put to death in the body but made alive in the Spirit.
 
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He was put to death in the body but made alive in the Spirit.
God cannot die, Jesus is the Life, so in death, his nature did not change, he only left life in the flesh. Life conquered death. God cannot be tempted, but Jesus was tempted, human spirit, soul and body. But The Holy One, the same person, was not tempted.

Jesus rose and for us is the Resurrection and the Life.
 
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In the resurrection Jesus demonstrated death had lost it's power, so it must have tried to hold him, and been crushed. I want to see what other Christians think. I will quote Millard J Erickson later.

It was impossible for death to hold Christ, hold onto Christ. But you can not personify hell and death as a personal being. Satan is not in charge of hell and death, Satan just took advantage of the fear of hell and death. Hell and death is in Satan's
future to experience that personally.

Acts 2:23-25 New King James Version (NKJV)

23 Him, being delivered by the determined purpose and foreknowledge of God, you [a]have taken by lawless hands, have crucified, and put to death; 24 whom God raised up, having loosed the [c]pains of death, because it was not possible that He should be held by it. 25 For David says concerning Him:

‘I foresaw the Lord always before my face,
For He is at my right hand, that I may not be shaken.

Christ Himself tells us He was dead.
To die meant to go to hell after departing the physical body, which is where all OT saints and all wicked went at death. Hell (Hades) , the place of all the dead, was not all the same experience though, refer back to Jesus telling us about Abraham's bosom, the rich man and Lazarus. Back in the OT times, no one ascended into Heaven except He that descended which is Christ, which Christ says the same. But now since Christ came and died to give eternal life to believers, they can go to heaven at their physical deaths and be with the Lord Christ where He is , we also are.
What a fantastic wonderful privilege to be called the children of God and have heaven as our citizenship home now with the New Testament established in His blood. Christ now has all authority in heaven and earth and under the earth (hell)

John 3:13
No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven.

Revelation 1
17 And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me, “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. 18 I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of [j]Hades and of Death. 19 [k]Write the things which you have seen, and the things which are, and the things which will take place after this.
 
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God cannot die, Jesus is the Life, so in death, his nature did not change, he only left life in the flesh. Life conquered death. God cannot be tempted, but Jesus was tempted, human spirit, soul and body. But The Holy One, the same person, was not tempted.

Jesus rose and for us is the Resurrection and the Life.
But as I read the Body that was prepared for Him did die. In that context Jesus has stated He died.

I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.

For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive in the Spirit.

Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit." When he had said this, he breathed his last.

As I have stated elsewhere Jesus never dies. Only the Body. Like those who feed on Him our bodies will die yet we will live and never die.
 
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But as I read the Body that was prepared for Him did die. In that context Jesus has stated He died.

I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.

For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive in the Spirit.

Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit." When he had said this, he breathed his last.

As I have stated elsewhere Jesus never dies. Only the Body. Like those who feed on Him our bodies will die yet we will live and never die.
That is why I mentioned Jesus' spirit, soul, body and the Son the Holy One.
 
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That is why I mentioned Jesus' spirit, soul, body and the Son the Holy One.
And the only comings and goings of Jesus during those 3 days that was given is that ALIVE in the Spirit Jesus went and preached to the spirits in prison.
Who cares if someone writes a book? Nothing else was given and what was given was given.
 
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Jesus descended into and fulfilled Hades / Abraham's Busom after bodily death and before resurrection into a spirit-body. Apostle's / Nicene Creeds.

1 Peter 3 (NASB)
18 For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, so that He might bring us to God, (reconciliation)
having been put to death in the flesh,(crucifixion)
but made alive in the spirit;(resurrection)
19 in which also He (spiritually) went and made proclamation to (freed) the spirits now in prison,
(Abraham's Busom = Paradise + Hades =>Luke 16:19-30)
who once were disobedient, ( and awaiting Messiah)
when the patience of God kept waiting in the days of Noah, during the construction of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, (Noah's family) were brought safely through the water.

Matthew 10:28
Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul (spirit?);
but rather fear Him (God) who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. (gehenna)
 
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Jesus descended into and fulfilled Hades / Abraham's Busom after bodily death and before resurrection into a spirit-body. Apostle's / Nicene Creeds.

1 Peter 3 (NASB)
18 For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, so that He might bring us to God, (reconciliation)
having been put to death in the flesh,(crucifixion)
but made alive in the spirit;(resurrection)
19 in which also He (spiritually) went and made proclamation to (freed) the spirits now in prison,
(Abraham's Busom = Paradise + Hades =>Luke 16:19-30)
who once were disobedient, ( and awaiting Messiah)
when the patience of God kept waiting in the days of Noah, during the construction of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, (Noah's family) were brought safely through the water.

Matthew 10:28
Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul (spirit?);
but rather fear Him (God) who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. (gehenna)
Again Abraham would be with the righteous dead. And apparently far up from Hades.
In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’
 
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It was impossible for death to hold Christ, hold onto Christ. But you can not personify hell and death as a personal being. Satan is not in charge of hell and death, Satan just took advantage of the fear of hell and death. Hell and death is in Satan's future to experience that personally.


Revelation 1
17 And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me, “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. 18 I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of [j]Hades and of Death. 19 [k]Write the things which you have seen, and the things which are, and the things which will take place after this.
1Co 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
1Co 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
1Co 15:57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. KJV

Hos 13:14 I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes. KJV

Death is a spirit. There is the ancient tradition of the angel of death. Satan invented death, towards God and applied it to us. There are spirits of death.

Like God cannot be tempted but Jesus was tempted, and Jesus is God, so too Jesus died, but never sinned. And Jesus died, but God cannot die or become darkness. God is light and love and doesn't hurt people with injustices. He never hates and Jesus though tempted never hated sinners...

John 2 and Jesus said:
"destroy this temple and I will raise it in three days." So Jesus Christ raised himself from the dead.

I believe that when Jesus died others rose to life, because death left gripping them to grip Jesus, to obtain from him his power.
 
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1Co 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
1Co 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
1Co 15:57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. KJV

Hos 13:14 I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes. KJV

Death is a spirit. There is the ancient tradition of the angel of death. Satan invented death, towards God and applied it to us. There are spirits of death.

Like God cannot be tempted but Jesus was tempted, and Jesus is God, so too Jesus died, but never sinned. And Jesus died, but God cannot die or become darkness. God is light and love and doesn't hurt people with injustices. He never hates and Jesus though tempted never hated sinners...

John 2 and Jesus said:
"destroy this temple and I will raise it in three days." So Jesus Christ raised himself from the dead.

I believe that when Jesus died others rose to life, because death left gripping them to grip Jesus, to obtain from him his power.
Satan did not invent death, God said after they sinned in Eden to Adam, dying you will die.
Satan can not create anything, he just manipulates the created things, perverting them.
If you bear a child, did you create the child or did God do it?
Where did the demons come from?
Satan did not make the demons. Everything that exist God made. All things, including demons.
 
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