The Fossil Record- As God Would Have Made It Through Time

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So many things understood and spoken well, Sir Marine.

Most of your post content is quite higher than many posters on CF can see in Reality.

Yes, major universities and lower level school classrooms in bondage to presenting false knowledge, 180° opposite of what is truth.

A time of major deception is upon multitudes. It is before us to view. (snip)

Evolution has zero fossil record proof. Time to face up to all that has been unearthed and what it shows.
. The irony between the beginning of the post and the end . Creationists are the only ones trying to deceive uneducated laymen . And that lie you just told about no fossils confirming evolution is to the point that I’m starting to think you’re delusional . The no fossils lie is that outrageous
 
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No, I just don't bother posting them everywhere.
-_- then post them in one place, then link it when relevant. You don't need to rewrite it every time, but it is pointless to allude to and then not present it.
 
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It really picked up in the 1800's as man wanted so desperately to get away from God. .
I can’t believe I missed this nonsense. The late 1700 and early 1800s were called the Age of Enlightenment for a good reason. The ignorance about natural phenomena; the torture and murder of heretics and so called witches; the rule of divine right controlling men and women’s lives were starting to come to an end .
 
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It is fact which has given Evolutions a black eye - out of billions of fossils inspected and documented there is not one single sequence/succession that shows Evolution by the fossil record.

Not one sequence showing morphological changes of one lifeform changing into another lifeform.

Again, not one evidence has been found.

What the fossil record does show is how God over time would have made Kinds of lifeforms. The fossil record proves this - since there is not one case of displaying by physical remains of postulated evolution of life forms.

Again, out of billions of fossils not one sequence showing hard physical fact of morphological change of one lifeform changing into another lifeform.

This is called no foundation for Evolution.

The fossil record instead has tantamount evidence in how God would have developed life over time. And their remains we would have physical evidence to display before all.

It is time for bias debaters and believers in Evolution to face up to the obvious. What the fossil record really shows.
After years of trying there is only one conclusion to make. Those who come in believing in evolution cannot be convinced otherwise because their notion of evidence is set in stone. If you believe in God, I pray your faith will not be shaken but that is up to you. Blessed is he that believes with seeing, even more blessed is he that believes without seeing. I do not see anything in evolution which has done a greater services to mankind than believing that our God created us and all we know in 6 days and rested on the seventh. Rested for God does not mean he was tired. It means the same as arrested or stopped..., and named it a holy day to pay homage to Him so that we never forget where we came from. The 7th day is a day for us to rest from our toil and worship Him in order to be strengthened. I don't believe in God. I KNOW that God is that He is and find happiness in not arguing with someone else, but in simply being an example and being there for anybody who wants to ask. God Bless All with Understanding and Discerning Behavior.
 
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Not all Christians are pseudoscience practioners . Some of us accept science.
Do you think there are any circumstances where the Bible can be true and factual as written? If there was a set of conditions which, if true, would allow you to hold it up and say this is the Word of God as it is written and we know that because..., _____________________. What would you fill in the blank with?
 
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Do you think there are any circumstances where the Bible can be true and factual as written? If there was a set of conditions which, if true, would allow you to hold it up and say this is the Word of God as it is written and we know that because..., _____________________. What would you fill in the blank with?

That would depend on the individual person and what their bar is, to determine if something is likely true.

If some written word, is contradicted by well evidenced reality, the folks that will likely believe the written word and deny well evidenced reality, are those who have a personal psychological need, to protect their belief.
 
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Do you think there are any circumstances where the Bible can be true and factual as written?
Plenty of the events in the bible are feasible, and a couple do have historical evidence to back them up.

If there was a set of conditions which, if true, would allow you to hold it up and say this is the Word of God as it is written and we know that because god talks to everyone and writes new copies all the time. What would you fill in the blank with?
I filled the blank. Too bad reality doesn't match it.

Personally, I'd view the text as divine if it had this property: anyone, even an illiterate person, can read it, and get the exact same message out of it, regardless of the languages they know.

It would call attention to the text in just the right way. Why wouldn't the deity make the bible that way if it wanted everyone to read it at believe it?
 
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I do not see anything in evolution which has done a greater services to mankind than believing that our God created us and all we know in 6 days and rested on the seventh.

Ok, you choose your beliefs based on the perceived results.

I prefer to look at the evidence and go by that, regardless of the results.

Funny thing happened to me when I gave up creationism. I became free to explore, to question, to understand, to think freely. And I like the results.

So you might want to consider basing your opinions on the scientific evidence. And though you may not think that has good results, I can tell you, from my experience, it does.

Cheers!
 
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Ok, you choose your beliefs based on the perceived results.

I prefer to look at the evidence and go by that, regardless of the results.

Funny thing happened to me when I gave up creationism. I became free to explore, to question, to understand, to think freely. And I like the results.

So you might want to consider basing your opinions on the scientific evidence. And though you may not think that has good results, I can tell you, from experience, it does.

Cheers!
I base my opinion on the Love of Christ and doing my very best to express that to others around me. The love of God for us is sufficient. Science has proven to be destructive and selfish beyond measure. But thank you anyway.
 
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Science has proven to be destructive and selfish beyond measure. But thank you anyway.

Ok so I suppose you will be turning in your computer, your food you eat as a result of the green revolution, your medicines, your car, and all the other destructive things beyond measure that mad scientists have created.

I will keep mine.

But thank you anyway.
 
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Do you know that the greatest advances in firefighting and medical rescue were derived out of war? WWI and WWII specifically contributed to the greatest advances in understanding fire and firefighting techniques and in emergency medicine where the battlefield injuries also lent the greatest understanding of how to triage better. So no, I am not talking about giving up anything other than nuclear warheads that killed millions of people. Now those I will agree to give up. But when it comes to comparing my relationship with God to a relationship with science, I like God better.
 
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Plenty of the events in the bible are feasible, and a couple do have historical evidence to back them up.


I filled the blank. Too bad reality doesn't match it.

Personally, I'd view the text as divine if it had this property: anyone, even an illiterate person, can read it, and get the exact same message out of it, regardless of the languages they know.

It would call attention to the text in just the right way. Why wouldn't the deity make the bible that way if it wanted everyone to read it at believe it?
In reality it does do what you said. I have seen it. I have experienced it. I have lived it. I have read verses today which addressed an issue I was dealing with. And read them years later and for the life of me can't understand how I even related it to what was happening then. I learn anew every day from scripture. I don't understand how anyone doesn't. I literally try to explain that the Bible is the Living Word of God. Living in that it does address each of us individually, specific to our needs. There is not anything we can do that is not covered in God's Word.
 
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Do you know that the greatest advances in firefighting and medical rescue were derived out of war? WWI and WWII specifically contributed to the greatest advances in understanding fire and firefighting techniques and in emergency medicine where the battlefield injuries also lent the greatest understanding of how to triage better. So no, I am not talking about giving up anything other than nuclear warheads that killed millions of people. Now those I will agree to give up. But when it comes to comparing my relationship with God to a relationship with science, I like God better.

More people have been killed by conventional explosives than nuclear/atomic weapons. A little bit weird that you had to go with that as your example of science being "destructive and selfish beyond measure".
 
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Do you know that the greatest advances in firefighting and medical rescue were derived out of war? WWI and WWII specifically contributed to the greatest advances in understanding fire and firefighting techniques and in emergency medicine where the battlefield injuries also lent the greatest understanding of how to triage better.

War created the need. It did not create the science, or at least not most of it. Scientists created the breakthroughs that led to computers, the green revolution, modern medicine, etc.
 
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More people have been killed by conventional explosives than nuclear/atomic weapons. A little bit weird that you had to go with that as your example of science being "destructive and selfish beyond measure".
Actually, I was talking about how science has opened the door to so much hatred toward people who believe in God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. If we believe in God it is expected that we be kind. If we believe in science we can berate and hate and bad mouth people of faith all we want and nobody says anything. And nope, just trying to keep it simple.
 
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Actually, I was talking about how science has opened the door to so much hatred toward people who believe in God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. If we believe in God it is expected that we be kind. If we believe in science we can berate and hate and bad mouth people of faith all we want and nobody says anything. And nope, just trying to keep it simple.

Psalm 137:7-9
7 Remember, O LORD, the children of Edom in the day of Jerusalem; who said, Rase it, rase it, even to the foundation thereof.
8 O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us.
9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

People don't need science to hate other people, and people don't need religion to love other people. People didn't need science back in the Middle Ages to go around hating each other and they don't need it now.
 
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If we believe in God it is expected that we be kind. If we believe in science we can berate and hate and bad mouth people of faith all we want and nobody says anything. And nope, just trying to keep it simple.
That may be simple, but sorry, it simply is not true. The scientific literature maintains a high level of decorum and respect for other people. It is fine to criticize ideas. We do it all the time. But berating and hating and badmouthing others? That is scorned by science. Oh, there may be some bad characters in the mix, but it is certainly not encouraged by science.

What would you say if someone posted, "If we believe in Jesus we can berate and hate and bad mouth people all we want and nobody says anything"? Would you find it in bad taste to characterize a group of people like that? Then why do you characterize people like that?
 
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