What think ye of Ezekiel's Temple?

ProtectionET said:

And what is written here against circumcision? It is equally written against circumcision and against uncircumcision. It makes no sense to adhere to your uncircumcision, as there is no point in adhering to your circumcision.

The one who wrote this epistle circumcised Timothy. What for? Because there is no point in holding on to uncircumcision.

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There is no point holding to either, because both are meaningless and irrelevant for both Jew and Gentile.

Thus your earlier statement "The Israelites must be circumsized" is incompatible with Paul's declaration.

ProtectionET said:

As I have already written, all quotations from Scripture confirm that we must build the Temple in accordance with the prophecy of Ezekiel. And this quotation also confirms: we, building the Third Temple, participate in the Body of Christ. The feast of Pesach was carried out by Jesus Christ not because He ate the Paschal lamb with his disciples, but because He himself became the Passover Lamb, dying on the cross on the day of the celebration of Easter.

Our realization of the autumn feasts of the Lord will not be that we will perform rituals in accordance with the book of Leviticus, but in this holidays, with our participation, the Second Coming of Jesus Christ will take place: the appearance in the temple of "elect of the four winds," the rapture of the Church, the appearance of Israel in the role of the Messiah.

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1Pe 2:4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
1Pe 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
1Pe 2:10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

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ProtectionET said:

As I have already written, all quotations from Scripture confirm that we must build the Temple in accordance with the prophecy of Ezekiel. And this quotation also confirms: we, building the Third Temple, participate in the Body of Christ. The feast of Pesach was carried out by Jesus Christ not because He ate the Paschal lamb with his disciples, but because He himself became the Passover Lamb, dying on the cross on the day of the celebration of Easter.

Our realization of the autumn feasts of the Lord will not be that we will perform rituals in accordance with the book of Leviticus, but in this holidays, with our participation, the Second Coming of Jesus Christ will take place: the appearance in the temple of "elect of the four winds," the rapture of the Church, the appearance of Israel in the role of the Messiah.

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Galatians 4
9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.
11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.

jgr said:

Thus your earlier statement "The Israelites must be circumsized" is incompatible with Paul's declaration.

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The apostle Paul never taught uncircumcision for the Jews. The whole Jerusalem church observed the Law of Moses. When the question arose in the Church about the observance of the Law of Moses by the Gentiles, the apostles took a decision: the Gentiles are not required to observe the Law of Moses.

Nobody canceled the Law of Moses for the Jews.

It's another thing to be in Jesus Christ. Any person is a Jew, or a Gentile, if he is in the Body of Christ, then he should not think about observing the separate commandments of the Law. Therefore, it made sense to hold on to the Body of Jesus Christ, and not separate decrees: "to be circumcised" or "uncircumcised."

And now I'll ask you: where is the Body of Christ, the Church today? You can not show me the Body of Christ, because denominations of the Christian religion are not the Church, they are deprived of the main sign of the Body of Christ, they do not have unity.

Each denomination has its own theology, has its own saints, has its own leaders. And all these denominations, no matter how attractive they are, are violators of the main commandment of Jesus Christ, the commandments about our unity in Him.

Therefore, the order of restoration of the unity of the Church will be as follows: first one part of the Church builds the Temple, then the second part of the church enters through the Eastern Gate into this Temple. Then Jews turns to the faith of those people who, as one Body, entered through the Eastern Gate. After this, Israel takes the place of the current Christian denominations as an earthly base for our unity and fellowship.

You advise me to keep the status of uncircumcision. But the message to the Galatians says that there is no point in this: we must follow Jesus Christ.

BABerean2 said:

1Pe 2:4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
1Pe 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
1Pe 2:10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

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jgr said:

Galatians 4
9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.
11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.

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There is no question. In these two passages of Scripture, there is no contradiction with the prophecy of Ezekiel about the Third Temple.

ProtectionET said:

The apostle Paul never taught uncircumcision for the Jews. The whole Jerusalem church observed the Law of Moses. When the question arose in the Church about the observance of the Law of Moses by the Gentiles, the apostles took a decision: the Gentiles are not required to observe the Law of Moses.

Nobody canceled the Law of Moses for the Jews.

It's another thing to be in Jesus Christ. Any person is a Jew, or a Gentile, if he is in the Body of Christ, then he should not think about observing the separate commandments of the Law. Therefore, it made sense to hold on to the Body of Jesus Christ, and not separate decrees: "to be circumcised" or "uncircumcised."

And now I'll ask you: where is the Body of Christ, the Church today? You can not show me the Body of Christ, because denominations of the Christian religion are not the Church, they are deprived of the main sign of the Body of Christ, they do not have unity.

Each denomination has its own theology, has its own saints, has its own leaders. And all these denominations, no matter how attractive they are, are violators of the main commandment of Jesus Christ, the commandments about our unity in Him.

Therefore, the order of restoration of the unity of the Church will be as follows: first one part of the Church builds the Temple, then the second part of the church enters through the Eastern Gate into this Temple. Then Jews turns to the faith of those people who, as one Body, entered through the Eastern Gate. After this, Israel takes the place of the current Christian denominations as an earthly base for our unity and fellowship.

You advise me to keep the status of uncircumcision. But the message to the Galatians says that there is no point in this: we must follow Jesus Christ.

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I have believed on the Lord Jesus Christ and been saved (Acts 16:31), and have been added to the Church as a result.

I am in union and unity with all who have done the same.

Is that not unity to you?

jgr said:

Is that not unity to you?

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Do I oppose this unity? I am doing what is entrusted to me: the fulfillment of Ezekiel's prophecy of the Third Temple.

I do not say: "All Christians should participate in the construction of the Third Temple."
I do not say: "All Christians must enter through the Eastern Gate into this Temple."

I do not say: "Every faithful to God must be circumcised."
I do not say: "Every faithful to God must remain uncircumcised."

One part of the faithful people will build the Third Temple in accordance with the prophecy of Ezekiel. Another part of the faithful people will enter through the Eastern Gate into this Temple.

The rest of the people, believers and nonbelievers, will have to determine their attitude to these events: who entered through the Eastern Gate into the new Temple?

This test is similar to the test that was offered to the Jews in the days of the First Coming of Jesus Christ: who was Jesus, the Son of God or the tempter?

If everything is in order in your personal relationship with God in Jesus Christ, then you can not be afraid: you can distinguish the right side from the left side. But I guess that very many Christians will be dragged into a senseless race for prosperity that will end in a complete collapse.

Be that as it may, the result of the construction of the Third Temple will be the conversion of all Jews to the faith of Messiah Yeshua. The whole world will become a believer, therefore the concept of the Church will lose its meaning: all will be believers. And Israel will receive the Prince's status from God, the Messiah.

In these events there is no destruction of spiritual unity, on the contrary, a visible unity will be added to the invisible spiritual unity: the Temple and the city of Yahwe Shamah.

There is a certain symmetry in the events of the First and Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

When Jesus came to John the Baptist to be baptized, John said to him:

– I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?

Jesus was circumcised according to the Law, and He was the Son of God, a saint who does not need the baptism of repentance. However, Jesus Christ was baptized by John, and this was accompanied by a sign of the Spirit.

Today's faithful to God people on the contrary, as a rule, are uncircumcised, but they are all baptized. And all these saints do not need circumcision, just as Jesus Christ did not need baptism. However, those saints who are executing the mission entrusted to them to be messengers of Jesus Christ for Jews, they will be circumcised, for thus us to fulfil all righteousness.

Do all today's Christians have to come to Israel to become Jews there?

According to the Law, not all the harvested crop, but only its tenth part, should be brought to God. "Harvest" is all people saved by Jesus Christ. "Tithes of the harvest" are those who completely devote themselves to God, these are the ten lost tribes of Israel returned from the peoples.

We conditionally call them as the "ten lost tribes of Israel", because the Northern Kingdom (Israel) was taken into Assyrian captivity. In the Northern Kingdom, there were 10 of the 12 tribes of Israel.

In fact, the lost tribes of Israel are more correctly called:

Ephraim, and [for] all the house of Israel his companions

Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and [for] all the house of Israel his companions:
And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.
And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou [meanest] by these?
Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which [is] in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, [even] with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.
And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.
And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:
And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:
(Ezekiel 37:16-23)

Because within the present Jewish people there are descendants of all the tribes of Israel, and in the "lost tribes" (Ephraim) there are also descendants of all the tribes of Israel.

Note that Ephraim's stick will be attached to the stick of Judah, and not vice versa!

Do you expect that the Christian religion will swallow up today's Jews? No!

The Jewish people will swallow Christians who will be messengers of Jesus Christ in Ezekiel's Temple.

For the curious: please read the book of Tobit, this is a parable.

ProtectionET said:

There is a certain symmetry in the events of the First and Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

When Jesus came to John the Baptist to be baptized, John said to him:

– I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?

Jesus was circumcised according to the Law, and He was the Son of God, a saint who does not need the baptism of repentance. However, Jesus Christ was baptized by John, and this was accompanied by a sign of the Spirit.

Today's faithful to God people on the contrary, as a rule, are uncircumcised, but they are all baptized. And all these saints do not need circumcision, just as Jesus Christ did not need baptism. However, those saints who are executing the mission entrusted to them to be messengers of Jesus Christ for Jews, they will be circumcised, for thus us to fulfil all righteousness.

Do all today's Christians have to come to Israel to become Jews there?

According to the Law, not all the harvested crop, but only its tenth part, should be brought to God. "Harvest" is all people saved by Jesus Christ. "Tithes of the harvest" are those who completely devote themselves to God, these are the ten lost tribes of Israel returned from the peoples.

We conditionally call them as the "ten lost tribes of Israel", because the Northern Kingdom (Israel) was taken into Assyrian captivity. In the Northern Kingdom, there were 10 of the 12 tribes of Israel.

In fact, the lost tribes of Israel are more correctly called:

Ephraim, and [for] all the house of Israel his companions

Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and [for] all the house of Israel his companions:
And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.
And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou [meanest] by these?
Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which [is] in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, [even] with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.
And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.
And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:
And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:
(Ezekiel 37:16-23)

Because within the present Jewish people there are descendants of all the tribes of Israel, and in the "lost tribes" (Ephraim) there are also descendants of all the tribes of Israel.

Note that Ephraim's stick will be attached to the stick of Judah, and not vice versa!

Do you expect that the Christian religion will swallow up today's Jews? No!

The Jewish people will swallow Christians who will be messengers of Jesus Christ in Ezekiel's Temple.

For the curious: please read the book of Tobit, this is a parable.

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Then James must have been very confused in who he addressed his letter to.

Jas 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
Jas 1:2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;
Jas 1:3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.

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BABerean2 said:

hen James must have been very confused in who he addressed his letter to.

Jas 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
Jas 1:2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;
Jas 1:3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.

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What are you talking about?

stick of Joseph, which [is] in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows - This is the "lost tribes of Israel." Their history began with the Assyrian captivity, it was the end of the Northern Kingdom. It means all 12 tribes.

stick <...> For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions - This is the whole of the present Jewish people, who retained their national identity. It means all 12 tribes.

Since both sticks in Ezekiel's hand are united into one, there are 24 refectory rooms for all Israel in the Temple: 12 for the tribes of Israel, led by Ephraim, and 12 for the tribes of Israel, led by Judah.

The term "ten lost tribes of Israel" appeared after the destruction of the Northern Kingdom, where there were hereditary possessions in 10 tribes. These lost tribes mingled with the peoples and disappeared. After this, the Jewish kingdom, where there were land allotments from the two tribes, was subjected to the Babylonian captivity. But those Jews who had gone to Babylonian captivity returned in about 70 years, and those Jews who had gone into Assyrian captivity never returned from there. However, Scripture says that these lost tribes led by Ephraim will have to return in the days of the Messiah.

ProtectionET said:

Well, explain now, when it was Jesus Christ who managed to fulfill these three commandments of the Law from Leviticus 23: 24-43:

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What is this?
7. Sukkot (8th day : Simchat Torah, Triumph of the Law) ----> The saints are accepted by Israel, Israel is Messiah Yeshua in the Second Coming
The bolded above, what do you mean? you say Israel is Messiah Yeshua in the second coming.

ProtectionET said:

What are you talking about?

stick of Joseph, which [is] in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows - This is the "lost tribes of Israel." Their history began with the Assyrian captivity, it was the end of the Northern Kingdom. It means all 12 tribes.

stick <...> For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions - This is the whole of the present Jewish people, who retained their national identity. It means all 12 tribes.

Since both sticks in Ezekiel's hand are united into one, there are 24 refectory rooms for all Israel in the Temple: 12 for the tribes of Israel, led by Ephraim, and 12 for the tribes of Israel, led by Judah.

The term "ten lost tribes of Israel" appeared after the destruction of the Northern Kingdom, where there were hereditary possessions in 10 tribes. These lost tribes mingled with the peoples and disappeared. After this, the Jewish kingdom, where there were land allotments from the two tribes, was subjected to the Babylonian captivity. But those Jews who had gone to Babylonian captivity returned in about 70 years, and those Jews who had gone into Assyrian captivity never returned from there. However, Scripture says that these lost tribes led by Ephraim will have to return in the days of the Messiah.

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The question should be, what are you talking about?

We have a choice to either accept the fact that Peter addressed the crowd on the Day of Pentecost as "all the house of Israel" in Acts of the Apostles 2:36, and James addressed his letter to "the twelve tribes" in James 1:1-3, or we can accept what you are saying.

The former comes from God's Word, and the second comes from you...

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ProtectionET said:

And what is written here against circumcision? It is equally written against circumcision and against uncircumcision. It makes no sense to adhere to your uncircumcision, as there is no point in adhering to your circumcision.

The one who wrote this epistle circumcised Timothy. What for? Because there is no point in holding on to uncircumcision.

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He circumcised Timothy because Timothy was born of a Jewess. IMO, what Paul did as an apostle to the Gentiles, was show that The promises made in covenant to Abraham were not abolished in his Gospel to them of Jesus. But were in fact fulfilled in him.
Ga 2:3 But neither Titus, who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised:
Ge 17:4 As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.
Ge 17:5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.
Ro 4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.
Ro 4:18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.
Ro 4:16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
If through circumcision in (foreskin of the flesh only), you then no longer are seed born of promise to Abraham, but seed through Moses and law.

ProtectionET said:

And what is written here against circumcision?

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What is written there REJECTS required circumcision... if you WANT to be circumcised, have at it.

Yet you would have us believe that REQUIRED Circumcision as a precept for ACCEPTANCE by Jesus is coming...

Hogwash.

ProtectionET said:

The apostle Paul never taught uncircumcision for the Jews. The whole Jerusalem church observed the Law of Moses. When the question arose in the Church about the observance of the Law of Moses by the Gentiles, the apostles took a decision: the Gentiles are not required to observe the Law of Moses.

Nobody canceled the Law of Moses for the Jews.

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While the first tabernacle was yet standing.

It has long since been dismantled, stone by stone, exactly as prophesied.

The Lord of the Vineyard returned and was the stone that crushed those wicked men to powder, exactly as prophesied. (Matt 21:33-45)

We won't be going back. We won't be building stone temples that God will reside in anymore.

You are welcome to wait for such a backwards redemptive event, but i wouldn't hold your breath if i were you.

ralliann said:

He circumcised Timothy because Timothy was born of a Jewess. IMO, what Paul did was show that The promises made in covenant to Abraham were not abolished in Jesus. But were in fact fulfilled in him.

Ga 2:3 But neither Titus, who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised:
Ge 17:4 As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.
Ge 17:5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.
Ro 4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.
Ro 4:18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.

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parousia70 said:

What is written there REJECTS required circumcision... if you WANT to be circumcised, have at it.

Yet you would have us believe that REQUIRED Circumcision as a precept for ACCEPTANCE by Jesus is coming...

Hogwash.

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I think it is preaching what the Pharisees teach. It all comes down to Abraham, and the promises made in covenant with him. Judaism teaches the promises concern them, and their role in the world. Even messianics which do not preach circumcision for Gentiles speak of the promises made to Abraham As though these are promises made to Israel...
In other words, they are thinking the promises are to them only as Abraham's seed of promise. So the heirs of Abraham to them from the nations were through circumcision. Remember Abe's servants in his household were circumcised. Messianics today still hold to these ideas….

BABerean2 said:

The question should be, what are you talking about?

We have a choice to either accept the fact that Peter addressed the crowd on the Day of Pentecost as "all the house of Israel" in Acts of the Apostles 2:36, and James addressed his letter to "the twelve tribes" in James 1:1-3, or we can accept what you are saying.

The former comes from God's Word, and the second comes from you...

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Do you really think that on that day before the apostle Peter there was a crowd that was "all the house of Israel"? Or the conversion of the apostle Peter recorded in the Bible goes beyond the spatial and temporal limits of the crowd that was before him at that moment in time?

Do you think that the apostle James knew nothing about the lost tribes of the Northern Kingdom, and he knew nothing of Isaiah's prophecy about the return of the lost tribes?

And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth. (Isaiah 49:6)

When the prophet Ezekiel speaks of the stick of Ephraim, this Ephraim no longer existed:

<...> within threescore and five years shall Ephraim be broken, that it be not a people. (Isaiah 7:8)

Ephraim, he hath mixed himself among the people; Ephraim is a cake not turned. (Hosea 7:8)

In the days of Jesus Christ, there was no country of Israel. There was a land of Judea, and in the north, in Galilee, instead of the lost tribes of Israel, the Samaritans lived.

Of course, among the descendants of Judah and Benjamin was a certain number of representatives of other tribes, therefore in the prophecy of Ezekiel it is said:

Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions

About the place where God's favorite dweller today, Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, you can only guess. However, Messiah Yeshua will return the lost tribes in the holy Land of the Covenant.

ProtectionET said:

Do you really think that on that day before the apostle Peter there was a crowd that was "all the house of Israel"? Or the conversion of the apostle Peter recorded in the Bible goes beyond the spatial and temporal limits of the crowd that was before him at that moment in time?

Do you think that the apostle James knew nothing about the lost tribes of the Northern Kingdom, and he knew nothing of Isaiah's prophecy about the return of the lost tribes?

And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth. (Isaiah 49:6)

When the prophet Ezekiel speaks of the stick of Ephraim, this Ephraim no longer existed:

<...> within threescore and five years shall Ephraim be broken, that it be not a people. (Isaiah 7:8)

Ephraim, he hath mixed himself among the people; Ephraim is a cake not turned. (Hosea 7:8)

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So, you are preaching the same as Judaism here? They believed the promises made to our father Abraham were for them only. Is that what you are saying here?

ProtectionET said:

In the days of Jesus Christ, there was no country of Israel. There was a land of Judea, and in the north, in Galilee, instead of the lost tribes of Israel, the Samaritans lived.

Of course, among the descendants of Judah and Benjamin was a certain number of representatives of other tribes, therefore in the prophecy of Ezekiel it is said:

Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions

About the place where God's favorite dweller today, Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, you can only guess. However, Messiah Yeshua will return the lost tribes in the holy Land of the Covenant.

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It is an heavenly inheritance that all are looking to, including the Apostles. For there is no other promise to Abraham for an inheritance....Do you expect to inherit something beyond what is inherited by promise?

ralliann said:

What is this?
7. Sukkot (8th day : Simchat Torah, Triumph of the Law) ----> The saints are accepted by Israel, Israel is Messiah Yeshua in the Second Coming
The bolded above, what do you mean? you say Israel is Messiah Yeshua in the second coming.

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I mean exactly what I wrote.

And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;
I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, [which is] new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and [I will write upon him] my new name.
(Revelation 3:7-12)

and [I will write upon him] my new name : ISRAEL

This name is the name of Jesus Christ at His Second Coming.

I will make them to come and worship before thy feet

You are well aware that we have no right to worship angels:

And I John saw these things, and heard [them.] And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
Then saith he unto me, See [thou do it] not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
(Revelation 22: 8,9)

Hence it follows that the angel of the Philadelphia church has the status of God equal to the status of Jesus Christ. When the Jews assimilate the representatives of the Philadelphia Church, the State of Israel will become God, the embodiment of the Messiah Yeshua in His Second Coming.

ralliann said:

He circumcised Timothy because Timothy was born of a Jewess.

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And from whom I was born (spiritually)? Church, she who by nationality?

There is a beautiful biblical image of the Church - Esther, who became the wife of a non-Jewish king, but then she discovered her true nationality to the king and and then she saved the Jews.

I feel like a Jew, the teaching of Jesus Christ made me a Jew: I'm looking for the Kingdom of God.