Is The Rapture and Jesus' 2nd Coming Really Two Separate Events?

Choose Wisely · Jun 13, 2018

Davy said:
It is error to try and undo what our Lord Jesus already foretold us will occur in that time. Luke 21 does not stand on its own. The other versions of what He told His disciples there while on the Mount of Olives is in Matthew 24 and Mark 13. So those other versions must be put together in study with Luke 21. Each version gives some different info.

In the Matthew 24 and Mark 13 versions, the order of His return and gathering of the Church is emphatic, after the tribulation like He said. That also is the order Apostle Paul showed in 2 Thessalonians 2.

So our Lord Jesus must have been speaking of another type idea concerning escaping those things. Afterall, He told them when they 'see' those things, to know that the kingdom of God is at hand. So how would they 'see' those events He warned of if they were physically gone?

Pre-trib makes a huge error about the future tribulation, treating it as a time of all out chaos, war, storms and earthquakes, etc. God's Word showed it's actually going to be a time of world peace when the Antichrist shows up. And using that peace he will destroy many souls. So the temptation to escape is not going to be a physical one, but a spiritual one, refusing to bow to that coming Antichrist as God, and refusing His mark.

That is why Jesus said this in Luke 17, where the left-behind idea is twisted by the pre-trib school:

Luke 17:33-34
33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
KJV

Whosoever seeks to save his life shall lose it. How's that? The coming tribulation causing physical death to our flesh is what we are NOT to be concerned about. It's spiritual worship to the wrong Jesus that we are to be concerned about during the tribulation. And if we have to lose... our life (flesh death) to preserve it (our soul), and remain in the Faith on Jesus Christ, then that... is what we are to do.

You might start by figuring out that Israel being discussed in Luke 21 is at the timeline 70AD. The Israel being discussed in Matt 24 and Mark13 is a future event. The scripture is very clear on this. It not even something that can be questioned by anyone that wants to know the truth.

BABerean2 · Jun 13, 2018

Choose Wisely said:
LOL. You seem to have a problem giving God credit for what was prophesied to happen. And yet we see the nation of Israel as prophesied. We see the people have been gathered from many nations as prophesied. We see they speak a pure language as prophesied. I could go on and on. Here is but a small sample.

Jeremiah 31:10

Hear the word of the LORD, O nations, And declare in the coastlands afar off, And say, "He who scattered Israel will gather him And keep him as a shepherd keeps his flock."

Psalm 147:2
The LORD builds up Jerusalem; He gathers the outcasts of Israel.

Isaiah 56:8
The Lord GOD, who gathers the dispersed of Israel, declares, "Yet others I will gather to them, to those already gathered."

Ezekiel 39:27
"When I bring them back from the peoples and gather them from the lands of their enemies, then I shall be sanctified through them in the sight of the many nations.

Psalm 107:2-3
Let the redeemed of the LORD say so, Whom He has redeemed from the hand of the adversary And gathered from the lands, From the east and from the west, From the north and from the south.

Isaiah 54:7
"For a brief moment I forsook you, But with great compassion I will gather you.

Ezekiel 39:28
"Then they will know that I am the LORD their God because I made them go into exile among the nations, and then gathered them again to their own land; and I will leave none of them there any longer.

What if we could find many verses in the Bible that said that God was going cause the moon to be destroyed. Then one day the United States shoots a giant nuke and vaporizes the moon. So even though God prophesied it to happen.......you would not give him credit because the United States shot the nuke? Much to learn you have......

Have you ever heard of the captivity in Babylon, and how God returned the Israelites back to the land after they had been in captivity 70 years?

Dan 9:1 In the first year of Darius the son of Ahasuerus, of the seed of the Medes, which was made king over the realm of the Chaldeans;
Dan 9:2 In the first year of his reign I Daniel understood by books the number of the years, whereof the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah the prophet, that he would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem.

Some of us need a good history book, because we ignore what is plainly written in the Bible in order to make our Two Peoples of God doctrine work...

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gomerian · Jun 14, 2018

Davy said:
My statement has nothing to do with coveting. The Rev.7 chapter about the sealing of the 144,000 is about God's sealing, not Satan's seal. God's sealing is by The Holy Spirit according to Apostle Paul. And in Ezekiel 9, the mark the angels seal God's people with is written as the letter Tau, which in ancient paleo-Hebrew was made as a cross.

Thus the 144,000 of Israel is about BELIEVERS ON CHRIST JESUS, not deceived Jews.

To think that Gentiles have been changed into Hebrews is replacement theology... there is nothing on Earth more covetous than that.

Since God goes into painstaking detail about the number and position of each tribe of the nation of Israel... we either have to think that He means exactly the Nation of Israel, or we have to think that the OT law is still in place... and that we'll be currently living in the land of Israel, within the specified boundaries of a given tribe.

If that isn't so, then you will have to be genetically Hebrew to be one of the 144k: a long-headed and Mediterranean type, with dark eyes and dark curly hair. The only head form that comes close to matching is Hamitic... and his teeth are wrong. The long-headed Nordic won't work either, because his forehead is too wide.

Most likely, David, you are a brachycephalic, if you're an Indo-European pure-bred Japhethite.

It's odd how God planned that, isn't it? He tells us that the Gentiles have been sent to their nations. And then He tells us about Ham... as though the only Gentiles are Japheth. And then He makes solid dividing lines, to make sure that even we can tell the difference between round and elongated, black and white, straight and curly... as though those things matter very much to Him, and so they should matter as much to us. He didn't make these separate races just to have someone tell us that they no longer matter... and to prove that, God tells us that He will mark these genetic Hebrews for the same specific purpose that He made them the Patriarchs, and made only them the Prophets.

People who say race doesn't matter, isn't paying much attention to what God is still doing today. They are intending to keep the Gentiles from believing in what was given to them... Jesus calls it shutting the door to those who want to enter. Those same people say that nonsense about once saved always saved. And completely miss what Jesus never fails to repeat: keeping His commandments, and building on the rock, being judged by the Words of Jesus' Commandments.

And you're wrong about the mark; Jesus tells us what it is.

BABerean2 · Jun 14, 2018

gomerian said:
To think that Gentiles have been changed into Hebrews is replacement theology... there is nothing on Earth more covetous than that.

Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Jas 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
Jas 1:2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;
Jas 1:3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.

Replacement Theology is replacing the one seed, with the many seeds in Galatians 3:16.

It is replacing the children of the promise, with the children of the flesh in Romans 9:8.

It is replacing the word "so", with the word "then" in Romans 11:26.

It is replacing a Gospel based purely on Grace, with one at least partially based on race.
(Titus 3:9)

Based on Galatians 3:29, I am Abraham's seed and heir to the promise.

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Sound Doctrine · Jun 14, 2018

BABerean2 said:
The New Covenant fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary is the fulfillment of the Abrahamic promise, based on Galatians 3:16-29.

I am Abraham's seed and inherit the promise, through Christ.

Gal_3:8 And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, "In you all the nations shall be blessed."

The guy in the video is a scholar of the Hebrew language. Are you?

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The Abrahamic Covenant is in three promises, perhaps more: To give the land shown by God to Abraham, to Israel (which would include Gentile saints); this has not been completed yet, but shall be by the end of the 7-year tribulation yet to come. The next is the gathering of the elect from all the nations (Gentiles, which is happening now, has been since Paul's ministry of spreading the Gospel and planting churches). Also, the promise of the seed (singular, meaning Jesus), which was fulfilled 2,000 years ago when Jesus came, was killed, rose from the dead the third day and is our Redeemer. It is this third point to which Paul refers to the Galatians in 3:16-29. Read the beginning of the Galatians epistle and get the context. They so soon left the law of grace and were slipping back into the law of Moses (Oh, foolish Galatians..."). Paul was pointing them to Jesus via the covenant to show the Galatians their error and to correct it in this way (what better way than Jesus, as promised from the covenant?) All the nations shall be blessed through Jesus to all who are the elect from the foundation of the world, Gal. 3:8. This is not the same event as where God gathers the scattered of Israel from the nations, which He did in 1948, with the nation Israel being restored as promised in another covenant.

God gave us one, perhaps 2 reliable English translations from the original tongues, the Geneva Bible from 1599 and the KJV from 1611. No other translations are required, and the KJV is by far the one Christians followed the most for over 400+ years and counting. There were 47 scholars who translated that Bible from the original Hebrew, Chaldean, and Greek languages from multiple manuscripts known as the Textus Receptus, into English. I don't need a single contemporary scholar to attempt to outdo those 47 scholars of the past. If I get confused over semantics, I use the Strong's Concordance for the old KJV to help with checking the translations and to some extent, act as a lexicon.

God would not give English speaking people a bum Bible for over 400 years. He would give us one reliable Bible because He is not the author of confusion. The massive number of Bibles of the 20th and now 21st century are confusing. Out of the over 100 versions and rewrites, which one is best? Confusing, isn't it? Satan confuses. God does not. The KJV is public domain, the others are not; they are copyrighted, and as such must say different things or the publishers would be suing each other for plagiarism. They must say different things. This easily alters the teachings and the power of the word of God.

According to what I have been told, though I admit I didn't check this out myself, the Geneva and KJV are essentially the same Bibles. The modern Bibles are not translations but are only interpretations or paraphrased versions of the Scriptures. The KJV and as I understand, the Geneva are direct translations from the original tongues, making them true translations. Attempting to outperform a translation which God has ordained to stand for over 400 years as His trusted word to English is foolish and highminded.

Read 1 John 2:26-27 as follows: "26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. 27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him."

The context is where John is concerned about teachers, scholars, pastors, whoever, who seduce the saints. John writes that we don't need any of them to teach the saints from the word of God. We who are saints have the anointing indwelling Holy Spirit who teaches us all things. This is quite clear. There is much to worry about from the teachings from man. We have nothing to worry about from the teachings from the Holy Spirit. Further, if we don't get our teachings from the Holy Spirit, we don't abide in Him. Why don't these verses get taught in the churches? I'll give you 3 guesses, the first 2 don't count.

BABerean2 · Jun 14, 2018

Sound Doctrine said:
The Abrahamic Covenant is in three promises, perhaps more: To give the land shown by God to Abraham, to Israel (which would include Gentile saints); this has not been completed yet, but shall be by the end of the 7-year tribulation yet to come. The next is the gathering of the elect from all the nations (Gentiles, which is happening now, has been since Paul's ministry of spreading the Gospel and planting churches). Also, the promise of the seed (singular, meaning Jesus), which was fulfilled 2,000 years ago when Jesus came, was killed, rose from the dead the third day and is our Redeemer. It is this third point to which Paul refers to the Galatians in 3:16-29. Read the beginning of the Galatians epistle and get the context. They so soon left the law of grace and were slipping back into the law of Moses (Oh, foolish Galatians..."). Paul was pointing them to Jesus via the covenant to show the Galatians their error and to correct it in this way (what better way than Jesus, as promised from the covenant?) All the nations shall be blessed through Jesus to all who are the elect from the foundation of the world, Gal. 3:8. This is not the same event as where God gathers the scattered of Israel from the nations, which He did in 1948, with the nation Israel being restored as promised in another covenant.

God gave us one, perhaps 2 reliable English translations from the original tongues, the Geneva Bible from 1599 and the KJV from 1611. No other translations are required, and the KJV is by far the one Christians followed the most for over 400+ years and counting. There were 47 scholars who translated that Bible from the original Hebrew, Chaldean, and Greek languages from multiple manuscripts known as the Textus Receptus, into English. I don't need a single contemporary scholar to attempt to outdo those 47 scholars of the past. If I get confused over semantics, I use the Strong's Concordance for the old KJV to help with checking the translations and to some extent, act as a lexicon.

God would not give English speaking people a bum Bible for over 400 years. He would give us one reliable Bible because He is not the author of confusion. The massive number of Bibles of the 20th and now 21st century are confusing. Out of the over 100 versions and rewrites, which one is best? Confusing, isn't it? Satan confuses. God does not. The KJV is public domain, the others are not; they are copyrighted, and as such must say different things or the publishers would be suing each other for plagiarism. They must say different things. This easily alters the teachings and the power of the word of God.

According to what I have been told, though I admit I didn't check this out myself, the Geneva and KJV are essentially the same Bibles. The modern Bibles are not translations but are only interpretations or paraphrased versions of the Scriptures. The KJV and as I understand, the Geneva are direct translations from the original tongues, making them true translations. Attempting to outperform a translation which God has ordained to stand for over 400 years as His trusted word to English is foolish and highminded.

Read 1 John 2:26-27 as follows: "26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. 27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him."

The context is where John is concerned about teachers, scholars, pastors, whoever, who seduce the saints. John writes that we don't need any of them to teach the saints from the word of God. We who are saints have the anointing indwelling Holy Spirit who teaches us all things. This is quite clear. There is much to worry about from the teachings from man. We have nothing to worry about from the teachings from the Holy Spirit. Further, if we don't get our teachings from the Holy Spirit, we don't abide in Him. Why don't these verses get taught in the churches? I'll give you 3 guesses, the first 2 don't count.

You are promoting some form of Dual Covenant Theology based at least partially on race, instead of Grace.
(Galatians 1:6-9)

You are also confusing the Lord who created heaven and earth, with Lord Rothschild's family and that godless organization known as the United Nations.
The United Nations was created to bring about global government.
The modern State of Israel was created by the United Nations during 1948.

The modern Zionist movement has been mainly lead by atheists and agnostics.
Theodore Herzl, who is considered the "father" of Zionism, refused to have his son circumcised.
Modern Zionism, promoted by modern Dispensational Theology, is one of the greatest deceptions in the history of the Church.

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gomerian · Jun 14, 2018

BABerean2 said:
circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

to Abraham and his seed were the promises made.

Replacement Theology is replacing the one seed, with the many seeds

It is replacing the children of the promise, with the children of the flesh

It is replacing the word "so", with the word "then"

It is replacing a Gospel based purely on Grace

I am Abraham's seed and heir to the promise.
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The circumcision was a physical fact. If each and every male of Abraham's household hadn't been circumcised, then Abraham's part of the covenant would never have been kept... making the promise null and void. Faith without works is dead, and Abraham knew that as well as do Jesus and James, and his faith&works made Abraham righteous.

Isn't Daniel 9:1 the exact same sort of seed that Genesis 9:9 is talking about? Does Daniel 9:1 mean that the Medes as a race only had one child? Or is the race the meaning of the seed.

Revelation 11:2 "But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty [and] two months."
A clear sign that there are still races of Hebrews and of Gentiles. The children of the flesh are which ones, BAB2?

Replacing the one seed with the many? You must mean the seed of Heber in this case. But why not add, to the seed of the woman, the seed of Gentiles which believe the Gospel of the Kingdom? The Gentiles are the bride of Psalms 45:10, and the Hebrews are the wise virgins of Psalms 45:14 and Matthew 25:10.

Jesus' parable of the wise and foolish virgins says that not all Hebrews will be saved. And since the virgins are the companions of the bride, the virgins are the genetic seed--the Hebrews of Abraham. Only those who have accepted the Gospel of the Kingdom are wise.

gomerian · Jun 14, 2018

Sound Doctrine said:
John writes that we don't need any of them to teach the saints from the word of God. We who are saints have the anointing indwelling Holy Spirit who teaches us all things. This is quite clear. There is much to worry about from the teachings from man. We have nothing to worry about from the teachings from the Holy Spirit. Further, if we don't get our teachings from the Holy Spirit, we don't abide in Him. Why don't these verses get taught in the churches? I'll give you 3 guesses, the first 2 don't count.

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All things, specified:

John 14:26 "But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in My name, He shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."

Jesus says that we will believe on Him by the very words which His Disciple-Apostles have told us that Jesus Himself taught to them, John 17:20 and Matthew 28:19-20.

Matthew 7:14 "Because strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."

The doctrine of the pharisees have filled several baskets with words that Jesus never spoke. They have taken the whole bread of life, and dissected it into scraps. Beware the leaven of the Pharisees, Matthew 16:9.

gomerian · Jun 14, 2018

BABerean2 said:
Dan 9:1 In the first year of Darius the son of Ahasuerus, of the seed of the Medes, which was made king over the realm of the Chaldeans;
Dan 9:2 In the first year of his reign I Daniel understood by books the number of the years, whereof the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah the prophet, that he would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem.

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Isaiah 23:13-17 Behold the land of the Chaldeans; this people was not, [till] the Assyrian founded it for them that dwell in the wilderness: they set up the towers thereof, they raised up the palaces thereof; [and] he brought it to ruin. Howl, ye ships of Tarshish: for your strength is laid waste. And it shall come to pass in that day, that Tyre shall be forgotten seventy years, according to the days of one king: after the end of seventy years shall Tyre sing as an harlot. Take an harp, go about the city, thou harlot that hast been forgotten; make sweet melody, sing many songs, that thou mayest be remembered. And it shall come to pass after the end of seventy years, that the LORD will visit Tyre, and she shall turn to her hire, and shall commit fornication with all the kingdoms of the world upon the face of the earth.

Revelation 18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast [it] into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all. … 24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Matthew 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, [thou] that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under [her] wings, and ye would not!

Matthew 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

I don't think that the Babylonian captivity has yet ended. When the earthquake splits the city, they will mourn for Him as the only begotten Son of God. Then will their captivity to Babylon have come to an end. But for the rest of the world, that which hasn't accepted the Kingdom Gospel given to us by the Mouth of the LORD GOD, the captivity of Babylon will drag them to hell.

The reaping of the harvest of the earth will happen, and they will sing the song of Moses upon the sea of glass. With patience will they keep the Commandments of God and the Testimony of Jesus.

But those who haven't accepted the Kingdom Gospel which only Jesus preached, will be reaped as the grapes of wrath.

Douggg · Jun 14, 2018

BABerean2 said:
Have you ever heard of the captivity in Babylon, and how God returned the Israelites back to the land after they had been in captivity 70 years?

But he did not return them back as a unified single nation. It did not fulfill Ezekiel 37.

BABerean2 · Jun 14, 2018

gomerian said:
If each and every male of Abraham's household hadn't been circumcised, then Abraham's part of the covenant would never have been kept... making the promise null and void.

There is absolutely no way the promise found fulfilled in Galatians 3:16 could have been stopped by men.
It was God who passed between the parted animals, instead of Abraham.

It was a covenant declared by God.

Abraham was circumcised after the promise was made.

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BABerean2 · Jun 14, 2018

Douggg said:
But he did not return them back as a unified single nation. It did not fulfill Ezekiel 37.

Then Peter must have been very confused on the Day of Pentecost when he addressed the crowd as "men of Judea", then as "men of Israel", and in Acts of the Apostles 2:36 as "all the house of Israel".

James must have been confused in James 1:1-3, when he addressed his letter to "the twelve tribes".

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Douggg · Jun 14, 2018

BABerean2 said:
Then Peter must have been very confused on the Day of Pentecost when he addressed the crowd as "men of Judea", then as "men of Israel", and in Acts 2:36 as "all the house of Israel".

James must have been confused in James 1:1-3, when he addressed his letter to "the twelve tribes".

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They weren't unified as a single nation. The land of Israel was divided up into three regions, Galilee, Samaria, Judea.

Descendants of all the tribes were mingled in with each other.

BABerean2 · Jun 14, 2018

Douggg said:
They weren't unified as a single nation. The land of Israel was divided up into three regions, Galilee, Samaria, Judea.

Descendants of all the tribes were mingled in with each other.

Tell that to Peter and James, if you think you know better than they do in Acts of the Apostles 2:36, and James 1:1-3.

We have a choice between what you are saying and what they said recorded in God's Word...

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Douggg · Jun 14, 2018

BABerean2 said:
Tell that to Peter and James, if you think you know better than they do in Acts of the Apostles 2:36, and James 1:1-3.

We have a choice between what you are saying and what they said recorded in God's Word...

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We have a choice between what you are saying and what the history maps show.

gomerian · Jun 15, 2018

BABerean2 said:
Abraham was circumcised after the promise was made.

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James tells us that Abraham was called righteous because he did what he had been told to do by the very mouth of God.

BABerean2, have you done and continued to do what Jesus has told you to do? Have you had no other gods before His face; have you relied upon the words of any other besides Jesus the Son of God? If so, then you have the right to be called a follower of Christ. If not, you are one of those who has 'the name that thou livest but are dead'. Be very careful whose words you chose to believe. Jesus says some would come as ravening wolves, as hireling shepherds who care nothing for the sheep and will run when there is danger. By Jesus alone may those words be rightfully said. None other shepherd has ever kept his feet from running, or trusted God not man to rescue him. No one. Ever.

I would encourage you to read John and Matthew as though your life depended upon it.

gomerian · Jun 15, 2018

BABerean2 said:
Then Peter must have been very confused on the Day of Pentecost when he addressed the crowd as "men of Judea", then as "men of Israel", and in Acts of the Apostles 2:36 as "all the house of Israel".

James must have been confused in James 1:1-3, when he addressed his letter to "the twelve tribes".

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James wrote to the lost tribes of the house of Israel. You seem to think that all persons of every tribe came home, and were standing there in Galilee when Jesus appeared to His 11 Disciple-Apostles.
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BABerean2 · Jun 15, 2018

gomerian said:
James wrote to the lost tribes of the house of Israel. You seem to think that all persons of every tribe came home, and were standing there in Galilee when Jesus appeared to His 11 Disciple-Apostles.
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What I think does not matter.

Let us get the story straight by looking at the text.

Jas 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
Jas 1:2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;
Jas 1:3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.

James is not writing to people that he does not know.
He is writing to his "brethren" in the faith.
Apparently, they were not "lost" to James.

Who did Jesus send the disciples to in Matthew 10:5-7?

Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat 10:7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.

The disciples did not ask Jesus where to find these "lost" people.

Who was Peter talking to on the Day of Pentecost?

Act 2:14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:

Act 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

Act 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

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gomerian · Jun 15, 2018

BABerean2 said:
Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat 10:7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.

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John 10:16 "And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear My voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd." 11:52 And not for that nation only, but that also He should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad.

6:68 Then Simon Peter answered Him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? Thou hast the words of eternal life."

5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, "Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for Thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by Thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth."

1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting. 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

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Only Jesus has the words of eternal life. By His words alone do we stand or fall. Within the nations, lives the scattered genetic race of Heber. Only those are His sheep, and they alone will hear His voice.
... They will run from the worthless hireling who failed to quote Jesus.
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BABerean2 · Jun 15, 2018

gomerian said:
Within the nations, lives the scattered genetic race of Heber. Only those are His sheep, and they alone will hear His voice.

Tit 3:9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

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