Is the Earth flat or round???

Aldebaran said:

I'm willing to negotiate! Let's say we call it pear-shaped and we'll have a deal.

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oh ok - done deal !
just a few minute details need clarifying - Is that a hard roundish pear or female body type pair shape with a juicy centre.

Six hundred and four posts about a question that is ludicrous.

Isaiah60 said:

Shocking footage of rocket leaving earth.

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Great video!

FIRESTORM314 said:

oh ok - done deal !
just a few minute details need clarifying - Is that a hard roundish pear or female body type pair shape with a juicy centre.

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Aldebaran said:

Can it be an Asian Pear? I know I'm being a bit sneaky by getting back to the spherical shape, but I'm crafty that way. But a pear is a pear. I don't discriminate based on its race.

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You two are quite the pair.

Posting here, since the other thread was ninja vanished:

Doctor.Sphinx said:

Last I checked, a circle was flat.

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Consideration:

1. Last I checked, a 'circle' was a 2 dimensional geometric mental construct and would most definitely be 'flat' [an imaginary 2 dimensinal plane] - See:


2. Last I checked, even when a 'circle' is drawn on paper, even with the thinist ink [even a computer pixel drawing as linked above], etc., it then contains a depth, and is not longer truly a 'circle', but now a hollow cylinder [like a pipe] [as it now has 3 dimensional depth, even if miniscule].

3. Last I checked, even the flat-earth models are not a 'circle' as such, but are varied 'cones', 'chips and dips bowls', 'terrariums' [with spheroid or domish surroundings, or other], all of which have more than their stated "four corners", as such cubish that have 8 corners.

The Ark Hive Mind said:

Posting here, since the other thread was ninja vanished:

Consideration:

1. Last I checked, a 'circle' was a 2 dimensional geometric mental construct and would most definitely be 'flat' [an imaginary 2 dimensinal plane] - See:

"A circle is the set of points in a plane that are equidistant from a given point

. The distance

from the center is called the radius, and the point

is called the center. Twice the radius is known as the diameter

. The angle a circle subtends from its center is a full angle, equal to

or

radians." - Circle -- from Wolfram MathWorld

also see - Wolfram|Alpha: Making the world’s knowledge computable​

2. Last I checked, even when a 'circle' is drawn on paper, even with the thinist ink [even a computer pixel drawing as linked above], etc., it then contains a depth, and is not longer truly a 'circle', but now a hollow cylinder [like a pipe] [as it now has 3 dimensional depth, even if miniscule].

3. Last I checked, even the flat-earth models are not a 'circle' as such, but are varied 'cones', 'chips and dips bowls', 'terrariums' [with spheroid or domish surroundings, or other], all of which have more than their stated "four corners", as such cubish that have 8 corners.

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Just reinforcing the point that "circle of the Earth" or "round Earth" mentioned in the bible doesn't necessarily support a ball-Earth.

Doctor.Sphinx said:

Just reinforcing the point that "circle of the Earth" or "round Earth" mentioned in the bible doesn't necessarily support a ball-Earth.

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Could I suggest a test?

Testing the earth, from a strictly objective exercise:


Experiment. 2 locations; one location for experiment at each place on any set of the above, with radio and telescopic lenses (direct line of sight communications, telescopy only). All four options (8 sites) can be tested a differing times.

Send up (straight up as is possible) 10 (100, 1000) Helium ballons (or whatever) with the radio/lazer/etc tracking and telescopic cameras (remember direct line of sight only, lazer or whatever). Half 'balloons' in each location.

Can each orbiting location of objects 'see' each other at say at LEO (Low Earth Orbit; "of 2,000 km (1,200 mi) or less" Wiki]) in direct line of sight. Can they see each other at a higher orbit of MEO (Middle Earth Orbit; "is the region of space around Earth above low Earth orbit (altitude of 2,000 km (1,243 mi) above sea level) and below geostationary orbit (altitude of 35,786 km (22,236 mi) above sea level).[1]" Wiki) and continue so on until they can direct line of sight, measure 'height'.

This cannot be a model test, but has to be an actual test (though I suppose a model test would give a rough estimate at which point the objects would have direct line of sight to look for in the real test).

The earth is an oblate sphere-oid or pear shaped, according to Mike Tyson. All the other planets are round, except the earth, which is pear-oid shaped.

Doctor.Sphinx said:

Just reinforcing the point that "circle of the Earth" or "round Earth" mentioned in the bible doesn't necessarily support a ball-Earth.

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Consideration:

1. Yet a 'circle' on a sphere (oid) would be at any point on the globe, since the outer point is at the radial point (radii, it if 2 or more points on edge of cricle) from the central point.

Therefore, that God can be above at any point of the earth, and as such at any given point, if would indeed be a circle, from the center of the globe to the radial point, extending to the opposing radial point.

2. a "circle" is "round" as is a sphere (oid).

3. earth is not a 'ball' (a toy). It is a sphere (oid), as the other objects (great planetary and other such as sun) in the second heaven are. They (sun, moon, planets surrounding us) can be seen with the naked eye, and with telescopes on earth. They are sphere.

4. Lunar eclipses. Looking at a simple flat-earth model, the sun/moon are generally rotating on the same height (but even if they were not), how would one get a lunar eclipse? The earth itself would have to come between the sun and moon. How is that possible on such a model of flat-eart?

Another test. A more earthly one.

Things needed.


Get out to the great flatlands of Kansas (etc) or even Australia (middle of nowhere'ish).


If you can't get on flat land. WATER!

Get out on the water of a massive lake that is miles across with same basic elements. Ballon, boat, and so on. Try there also - List of largest lakes of the United States by area - Wikipedia

If persons want to argue the Bible and spin their wheels over semantics, then do the experiements, as honest experiementation cannot contradict truth ~ John 17:17.

Needs more X-files theme.

Just grab a free planetarium software program.
Don´t you know that they are able to predict the position of almost anything in the sky?
How such software could be made if the known model is false?
Check it yourself. You can fastforward and rewind in time with the programs and can predict for even thousands of years.
The most popular one is stellarium.

NBB said:

Just grab a free planetarium software program.
Don´t you know that they are able to predict the position of almost anything in the sky?
How such software could be made if the known model is false?
Check it yourself. You can fastforward and rewind in time with the programs and can predict for even thousands of years.
The most popular one is stellarium.

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The software doesn't use the known model. It uses past predictions. The predictions were accurate even in Ptolemy's day of epicycles (i.e. a different model).