I Don't Listen To Christian Music Anymore

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I'm not terribly familiar with a lot of contemporary Christian musicians, but I will say I like a lot of the medieval style chanting/monk singing that I've encountered on YouTube. If you're curious about what I mean, I'm talking about the Megaloschemos monk singing videos that are out there. Seriously, just query "Megaloschemos" in YouTube. It's very solemn, beautiful stuff.
 
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That in no way "speaks volumes" or any "volume" about my walk with the Lord.
I just find today's CCM is too dreamy and too emotional, and Christian men
who sing about "touching the Lord's face" or "embracing His tenderness" if not,
"....looking lovingly into the eye's of Jesus...." is just too much. My wife is not
impressed either.

Traditional church music doesn't set well with me anymore. This is why we
arrive late at church to avoid the song service. And you know what? The
messages from our Pastor are great. Too bad the song service bores me.

I'm sorry to hear that; cause there are a lot of great P&W music songs out now:

Olso Gospel Choir - Open the eyes of my heart


Maybe you need the eyes of your heart opened.:)
 
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I'm sorry to hear that; cause there are a lot of great P&W music songs out now

There's not just recent P&W. There's P&W from last year. There's 2000 years of Christian music. There's old-school hymns. There's Scripture set to music. There's Gospel. There's Christian country. There's Christian rap. There's Christian songs in multiple other genres. There's Handel and Bach. There's medieval music. And there's songs from the past dusted off and given a more modern feel:

 
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There's not just recent P&W. There's P&W from last year. There's 2000 years of Christian music. There's old-school hymns. There's Scripture set to music. There's Gospel. There's Christian country. There's Christian rap. There's Christian songs in multiple other genres. There's Handel and Bach. There's medieval music. And there's songs from the past dusted off and given a more modern feel:


Or some of the oldest; from Solomon's own hymns:

I'm Putting On the Love of the Lord (Ode 3)

 
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Why does it make you uncomfortable?

We've had services like this, people always hold back in their praise. Why NOT be allowed to let out your emotions in praise to the Almighty? Why be so rigid?
I don't think it's rigidity so much as preference and (perhaps) personality and temperament. I belonged (at one time) to a Pentecostal church where there was much standing, shouting, hand raising, etc. One of the Elders' wives chastised me a bit for sitting down halfway through the 45 minute song service (!). I was tired, my feet ached.
Emotion is fine, letting out praises is fine. Worshiping in one's own preference is also fine. But when (for me) it comes to songs that I have a hard time with scripturally, then I need to look at what's more beneficial - to go with the emotion of it, or to find something else to feed my mind.
 
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I don't think it's rigidity so much as preference and (perhaps) personality and temperament. I belonged (at one time) to a Pentecostal church where there was much standing, shouting, hand raising, etc. One of the Elders' wives chastised me a bit for sitting down halfway through the 45 minute song service (!). I was tired, my feet ached.
Emotion is fine, letting out praises is fine. Worshiping in one's own preference is also fine. But when (for me) it comes to songs that I have a hard time with scripturally, then I need to look at what's more beneficial - to go with the emotion of it, or to find something else to feed my mind.

Couldn't have said it any better!
 
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That in no way "speaks volumes" or any "volume" about my walk with the Lord.
I just find today's CCM is too dreamy and too emotional, and Christian men
who sing about "touching the Lord's face" or "embracing His tenderness" if not,
"....looking lovingly into the eye's of Jesus...." is just too much. My wife is not
impressed either.

Traditional church music doesn't set well with me anymore. This is why we
arrive late at church to avoid the song service. And you know what? The
messages from our Pastor are great. Too bad the song service bores me.
 
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That in no way "speaks volumes" or any "volume" about my walk with the Lord.
I just find today's CCM is too dreamy and too emotional, and Christian men
who sing about "touching the Lord's face" or "embracing His tenderness" if not,
"....looking lovingly into the eye's of Jesus...." is just too much. My wife is not
impressed either.

Traditional church music doesn't set well with me anymore. This is why we
arrive late at church to avoid the song service. And you know what? The
messages from our Pastor are great. Too bad the song service bores me.
Interesting to have someone feel the same way as I do about the music in church now days. I cannot call it worship as most of it is about the people. Very little about God unless it is what God did for them, how He makes them feel and so on. They might sing "Its all about you Lord but the Lord is not fooled.....its all about them." I was thinking of joining the small children care givers who can listen to the great sermon but don't have to go through the singing all about me songs.
 
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My pastor has announced changes in the song services: sing to your hearts
content, but the song services last only ten minutes now, not like before
where they just went on for 30 minutes or more. I prefer sermons that are
brief (i.e. 20-30 minutes) and sharp and to the point.
 
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I don't think it's rigidity so much as preference and (perhaps) personality and temperament. I belonged (at one time) to a Pentecostal church where there was much standing, shouting, hand raising, etc. One of the Elders' wives chastised me a bit for sitting down halfway through the 45 minute song service (!). I was tired, my feet ached.
Emotion is fine, letting out praises is fine. Worshiping in one's own preference is also fine. But when (for me) it comes to songs that I have a hard time with scripturally, then I need to look at what's more beneficial - to go with the emotion of it, or to find something else to feed my mind.
I find many of the hillsong and bethel songs singing not about the Lord, but about the self singing about the Lord. The focus is on the self....how the self loves God because of what the self received....how it feels to love the Lord....."I sing of what you've done for me" is a literal lyric. Used to be that songs taught you something, that is, we also loved God with our minds. Today the idea is to stir to group up to an emotional peak so they can say they "felt the worship" when it is more or less some kind of induce state. Whenever you hear a song leader (or any kind) repeat the same word over and over many times, that is a mantra and it is to get the crowd into some kind of mental trance state. Make no mistake, that is NOT worship of God but worship of the experience.
 
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I lead worship in my church. I'll do it for probably 45-60mins, 3/4 of that time I'll be in tears. I remember hearing in my spirit the past Sunday that Jesus was in our midst. When Michal in 2 Samuel 6 saw David danced for God will all his might she dared to despise him, David replied that he'll be even more undignified before the God who picked him as king. Michal sadly died childless I believe because of treating the king thus.

I'll be undignified before God I'll cry, shout, kneel, prostrate anything because God picked me from hell and restored me to Himself. The words of "take my life and let it be" an old hymn comes to mind.
 
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I lead worship in my church. I'll do it for probably 45-60mins, 3/4 of that time I'll be in tears. I remember hearing in my spirit the past Sunday that Jesus was in our midst. When Michal in 2 Samuel 6 saw David danced for God will all his might she dared to despise him, David replied that he'll be even more undignified before the God who picked him as king. Michal sadly died childless I believe because of treating the king thus.

I'll be undignified before God I'll cry, shout, kneel, prostrate anything because God picked me from hell and restored me to Himself. The words of "take my life and let it be" an old hymn comes to mind.
Don't you want to move beyond thanking Him for what He does for you? And we are not talking dignified or not. We are talking about singing songs all about what He did for you, never about Him. Do you ever sing something concrete about what you do or did for him? Something besides like vauge "live my life for you" which cannot be measured and therefore sung with gusto and tears.

Modern songs offered in services are all about you, not about Him. They are all about what he gave and nothing concrete about what you give. Me me me me me and some my salvation my salvation and my salvation. Very little about loving others and even less about loving God in terms that reflect true.

So don't allow yourself to fool yourself. No one despises you. But if all you have to give is your kneeling, shouting, crying, etc because of what God did for you, then that is nothing like what David gave. Don't fool yourself thinking it is.
 
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That in no way "speaks volumes" or any "volume" about my walk with the Lord.
I just find today's CCM is too dreamy and too emotional, and Christian men
who sing about "touching the Lord's face" or "embracing His tenderness" if not,
"....looking lovingly into the eye's of Jesus...." is just too much. My wife is not
impressed either.

Yup, its up there with people saying "we are the Bride of Christ and the marriage will be consumated".

*blink*

Erm, folks, that imagery really does not work for a lot of guys. It feels borderline homosexual to say the least.

Traditional church music doesn't set well with me anymore.

Ah, now this is the way out for people like me as, whilst I can listen to the occasional Twila Paris or John Elefante track, I'm happier with Fanny Crosby.
 
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I have sensed God, in fact when we were in worship on 3/6 I saw in the spirit that Christ was walking in the midst of the congregation. Others have seen angels ascend and descend in the time of worship. When I in worship I don't
struggle to get the next song to move to, I get almost a download in my spirit and when it's time for us to stop worship I'll see myself on my knees or my spirit gets still no songs coming on.

I'll continue to do what I am doing, it might not pass in human eyes but until the Holy Spirit says otherwise "Here in the power of Christ I stand"


Don't you want to move beyond thanking Him for what He does for you? And we are not talking dignified or not. We are talking about singing songs all about what He did for you, never about Him. Do you ever sing something concrete about what you do or did for him? Something besides like vauge "live my life for you" which cannot be measured and therefore sung with gusto and tears.
Modern songs offered in services are all about you, not about Him. They are all about what he gave and nothing concrete about what you give. Me me me me me and some my salvation my salvation and my salvation. Very little about loving others and even less about loving God in terms that reflect true.

So don't allow yourself to fool yourself. No one despises you. But if all you have to give is your kneeling, shouting, crying, etc because of what God did for you, then that is nothing like what David gave. Don't fool yourself thinking it is.
 
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Don't you want to move beyond thanking Him for what He does for you? .

don't you think some of the the most powerful words are
"thank you"?


being grateful for all the blessings God has given people is a good thing, no?

just being able to get up and turn on a faucet and get water to drink in the morn is such a huge blessing; we don't need to spend hrs carrying a container and going to get water for the day

for some people it still takes hrs just to get food and water for their family and it takes the whole day
or it takes hrs for a child to walk to school in some countries
 
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don't you think some of the the most powerful words are
"thank you"?
No, they are not. When a man and woman marry, "thank you" is not a part of the marriage vow. If it were, it would be rather low as compared to the weightly promises being made.

And thank you is said in order not to be thought of a rude as well. Merely fulfilling expections of the culture. One need not even be grateful. No, I think "thank you" rather low on the scale of things to communciate without the object and reason for the thank you. That might be telling
 
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I have sensed God, in fact when we were in worship on 3/6 I saw in the spirit that Christ was walking in the midst of the congregation. Others have seen angels ascend and descend in the time of worship. When I in worship I don't
struggle to get the next song to move to, I get almost a download in my spirit and when it's time for us to stop worship I'll see myself on my knees or my spirit gets still no songs coming on.

I'll continue to do what I am doing, it might not pass in human eyes but until the Holy Spirit says otherwise "Here in the power of Christ I stand"

OK, well I tried. I have heard of some who saw demons walking into Christian services where others were worshipping the feeling they are working themselves into repeating "mantras" until their subconscious was in the "right state." Thought you might consider something besides focusing on what He does for you. Praying about the worship team at our church singing something for God instead of always what God did for them or how they feel or making promises they don't intend to keep (I'll live my life for you when they don't even live Sunday for Him)

Did Christ do anything or tell anyone anything that was indicative of God? I do not believe Christ just shows up and walks through the aisle like a pop start enjoying the admiration. Everytime He shows up next to me, I learn something rather deep, powerful or insightful. And sometimes I was not even trying at all but thinking of something else.
 
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