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Isaiah 10:24 talks about the Assyrian of the following verses... and I think what happened then will happen again... only moreso, since some of those things never happened the first time.

Isaiah 14:24 says that God will break the Assyrian on His mountains, and his yoke shall depart from off their shoulders.

The Assyrians as a people are called the work of God's hand, in Isaiah 19:23.

And Isaiah 23:13 says that Tyre is the land of the Chaldeans which the Assyrian built.
So that the Prince of Tyre in Ezekiel 28:2-10 is this Assyrian.

Because it seems from Isaiah 30:31, that the Assyrian is the beast.
Then shall the Assyrian fall with the sword, says Isaiah 31:8.

And Ezekiel 31:3 says the Assyrian was a cedar in Lebanon.

Hosea 11:5 says that the Assyrian will be the king of the Ephraimites (either from of time of the captivity, and/or because the drunkards of Ephriam in Isaiah 28:1 will have the Assyrian as their king).

Micah 5:3 echos the verse in Revelation 12, about the woman who travails, and talks about the Assyrian in end times terminology.


Now, it is said in those verses that the Assyrian was a cedar in Lebanon. Doesn't that mean that Phoenicia itself is Assyrian? and that the Phoenicians are not Canaanites at all, by anybody's reckoning? Which finally makes sense of the Canaanite Phoenicians speaking Semitic. And it means that wherever the Phoenicians went, they were always and forever the Assyrians. Jubainville's First Inhabitants says that Illos was Assyrian, so that Troy was Assyrian, just as Lydia became Assyrian after the Pelasgians were pushed out. Jesus sent letters, via John the beloved, to the west coast of Asia Minor. Jesus spoke to the Syro-Phoenician people, who would become the work of the Father's hand.

And if Tyre is in Chaldea, then Ur of the Chaldees was never in Sumeria.
 
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Isaiah 10:24 talks about the Assyrian of the following verses... and I think what happened then will happen again... only moreso, since some of those things never happened the first time.

Isaiah 14:24 says that God will break the Assyrian on His mountains, and his yoke shall depart from off their shoulders.

The Assyrians as a people are called the work of God's hand, in Isaiah 19:23.

And Isaiah 23:13 says that Tyre is the land of the Chaldeans which the Assyrian built.
So that the Prince of Tyre in Ezekiel 28:2-10 is this Assyrian.

Because it seems from Isaiah 30:31, that the Assyrian is the beast.
Then shall the Assyrian fall with the sword, says Isaiah 31:8.

And Ezekiel 31:3 says the Assyrian was a cedar in Lebanon.

Hosea 11:5 says that the Assyrian will be the king of the Ephraimites (either from of time of the captivity, and/or because the drunkards of Ephriam in Isaiah 28:1 will have the Assyrian as their king).

Micah 5:3 echos the verse in Revelation 12, about the woman who travails, and talks about the Assyrian in end times terminology.


Now, it is said in those verses that the Assyrian was a cedar in Lebanon. Doesn't that mean that Phoenicia itself is Assyrian? and that the Phoenicians are not Canaanites at all, by anybody's reckoning? Which finally makes sense of the Canaanite Phoenicians speaking Semitic. And it means that wherever the Phoenicians went, they were always and forever the Assyrians. Jubainville's First Inhabitants says that Illos was Assyrian, so that Troy was Assyrian, just as Lydia became Assyrian after the Pelasgians were pushed out. Jesus sent letters, via John the beloved, to the west coast of Asia Minor. Jesus spoke to the Syro-Phoenician people, who would become the work of the Father's hand.

And if Tyre is in Chaldea, then Ur of the Chaldees was never in Sumeria.
If you read into the next chapter, Isaiah 11,(there were no chapters and verses really) you will see that it speaks about the Lamb lying down with the Lion so its speaking about the 1000 year reign just after the Assyrian comes to his end.

The Assyrian only points towards his physical lineage. He also must arise out of one of the Four Generals Kingdoms in the End Times (Dan. ch. 8) and he must also come to power via the Fourth Beast (Dan. ch. 7). Thus he has to be an Assyrian (Turk) born in Greece, which is in the European Union. NOTHING else fits.
 
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If you read into the next chapter (there were no chapters and verses really) you will see that it speaks about the Lamb lying down with the Lion so its speaking about the 1000 year reign just after the Assyrian comes to his end.

The Assyrian only points towards his physical lineage. He also must arise out of one of the Four Generals Kingdoms in the End Times and me must also come to power via the Fourth Beast. Thus he has to be an Assyrian (Turk) born in Greece, which is in the European Union. NOTHING else fits.

Assyrians are from Lebanon: they're certainly not Turks. The whole thing hangs upon that one name in verse of Genesis 10:11. How many times have you seen places where a supposed name should have been translated?
Asshur means successful, from ashar which means happy. Nimrod went out of Shinar happy, and built Nineveh...
Strong's Hebrew Bible Dictionary - Bible Software by johnhurt.com

Accadian never morphed into Assyrian, and Abraham didn't grow up in Babylon. The Assyrian Hannibal actually looked like a Greek statue... and Greeks had the profile of the Arabs, according to the anthropologist Munro's 'British Race'... that same face belongs to the Etruscans, the Romans, and some of the British. They also colonized the south of Spain, as the Phoenicians.

The Persians and the Nineveh folks all look exactly the same on the monuments... the only way you can tell them apart is by their clothes.

Now, "And Lebanon shall fall by a mighty one," says Isaiah 10:34. The remnant as helpers in clearing the land in Isaiah 11:14... apparently the Philistines are those Palestinians of today... I don't know what fly upon the shoulders of the Philistines means, but that can't be good. Why were we told that Edom became none other than the Jews, when Edom is still occupying his same old place in that verse? And Jesus will come from that place with His robes dipped in the blood of Edom. I'm starting to think that someone's been lying to us. The question is why.

Your thinking that the EU has a part to play in this mess is what's keeping you from solving the puzzle. For me, the problem is which story to believe, because I know that Edom fits into the end times, and that he is a main-stage player, simply because Jesus settles that account personally.
 
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Isaiah 10:24 talks about the Assyrian of the following verses... and I think what happened then will happen again... only moreso, since some of those things never happened the first time.

Isaiah 14:24 says that God will break the Assyrian on His mountains, and his yoke shall depart from off their shoulders.

The Assyrians as a people are called the work of God's hand, in Isaiah 19:23.

And Isaiah 23:13 says that Tyre is the land of the Chaldeans which the Assyrian built.
So that the Prince of Tyre in Ezekiel 28:2-10 is this Assyrian.

Because it seems from Isaiah 30:31, that the Assyrian is the beast.
Then shall the Assyrian fall with the sword, says Isaiah 31:8.

And Ezekiel 31:3 says the Assyrian was a cedar in Lebanon.

Hosea 11:5 says that the Assyrian will be the king of the Ephraimites (either from of time of the captivity, and/or because the drunkards of Ephriam in Isaiah 28:1 will have the Assyrian as their king).

Micah 5:3 echos the verse in Revelation 12, about the woman who travails, and talks about the Assyrian in end times terminology.


Now, it is said in those verses that the Assyrian was a cedar in Lebanon. Doesn't that mean that Phoenicia itself is Assyrian? and that the Phoenicians are not Canaanites at all, by anybody's reckoning? Which finally makes sense of the Canaanite Phoenicians speaking Semitic. And it means that wherever the Phoenicians went, they were always and forever the Assyrians. Jubainville's First Inhabitants says that Illos was Assyrian, so that Troy was Assyrian, just as Lydia became Assyrian after the Pelasgians were pushed out. Jesus sent letters, via John the beloved, to the west coast of Asia Minor. Jesus spoke to the Syro-Phoenician people, who would become the work of the Father's hand.

And if Tyre is in Chaldea, then Ur of the Chaldees was never in Sumeria.

Ancient person in blue. End times person in red.

Revelation 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

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Nimrod built up Babel.

8 And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.

9 He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD.

10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.

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1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.

2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.

3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.

4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.


They were building a tower to reach to heaven to put their own god, likely Nimrod, there to replace God. The name of God was YHWH. Four letters.

Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

The little horn person in Daniel 8:23-25 is into craft - the occult. The little horn person eventually becomes the end times beast in Revelation 17:8b (in red above). The name he adopts will likely have some occult significance, of the name Nimrod had back in Genesis when the world's people in their intent to build the tower of Babel were going to replace God.

Nimrod is likely the Assyrian, whose disembodied spirit in the bottomless pit will come out and possess the end times person. To get this concept, a person needs to understand how to read Revelation 17:8 as being two parts. An ancient person. And an end times person.
 
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Nimrod is likey the Assyrian

I used to think that, too, but Nimrod has nothing at all to do with genetic Lebanon/Assyria which is Semitic; however, I agree with you that Nimrod has much to do with the theology of modern Babylon. In fact, the theology of this modern-day Assyrian seems to be that of the Jezebel/Babylon... which he doubtless obtained in that manner.


Isaiah 28:14-20 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:

If Hades is the guardian of the pit (as the new "hell" thread at CF is saying) then Hades is Abaddon with the keys to the pit. So that their covenant with death is their covenant with Abaddon. And when Jesus says He will kill the children of Jezebel with death, He means by the hand of Abaddon. Abaddon/death will be killing the people with whom he has made a covenant.

Revelation 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am He which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
Revelation 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

In Greek death is thanatos, hell is hades. Another mystery. Because Thanatos is said to be benevolent. The only benevolent death I see in the Prophecies is in Daniel 11:35, where they fall in order to be made white. ... but these ones can hardly be called people "of understanding"... what with Jezebel/Babylon and the covenant with Abaddon. I'm thinking that Thanatos used to have a very different meaning.

But since Abaddon is riding the pale horse, he starts his killing at that time. Before that, they were forced to submit or starve under the weight of the black horse (a very communistic method down the ages). Only those who trust God to feed them as He feeds His sparrows, will escape.

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And before that, the red horse of war. And before that... well, remembering that the horses of Zachariah belong to God, and remembering that God says multiplying I will multiply you... and conquering to conquer... And the red horse could also be the sword of Jesus which turns father against son in a house divided.

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And the fact is that the white and the red aren't said to be seen coming out, but only to be seen... as those things that already are. But the black horse came out and so did the pale... and these specifically belong to the bad guys... the black is probably the False Prophet, with the pale horse as the Beast.

I'd say we're still living in the time of the red horse.
 
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Assyrians are from Lebanon: they're certainly not Turks. The whole thing hangs upon that one name in verse of Genesis 10:11. How many times have you seen places where a supposed name should have been translated?
Asshur means successful, from ashar which means happy. Nimrod went out of Shinar happy, and built Nineveh...
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I am well schooled in all things prophecy my brother, I didn't just tell you hes probably a Turk without having studied it, not that it matters, if an "Assyrian" was from South Africa, it still would hold that an Assyrian, of the physical lineage, would be born in Greece and come to power in the E.U. But the facts are Assyria has basically very little to do with Lebanon, and was mostly a Syrian/Turkish Power via its modern day borders, and I can show this. Watch these THREE MAPS. Assyria's capital was Nineveh, which is Modern day Mosul in Iraq, but Babylon was below Assyria, thus Assyria was mostly a power that covered Nineveh, Iraq and then NORTH via Turkey and West via Syria. Where modern Mosul is today, that is considered Turkmeneli, its in Iraq, but it has 3 Million Turks living in it. It was divided that way after the Wars !! Remember Nineveh is now called Mosul WATCH BELOW:

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Notice where Mosul is in Iraq, and much of the Assyrian Empire in the first map is North and West of modern day Mosul, which is where the Assyrian capital Nineveh was located. Now notice below what people in the Region call it this very day, they call it Turkmeneli !!

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So these peoples are considered Turks brother. I have studied this in depth, I do not understand how you came up with Lebanon brother, but it doesn't fit the narrative at all. These Assyrian Kingdom peoples are known as Turks, the way the land(s) were split up after the wars was very discombobulated to say the least. It confuses people, but we can track all of their roots/genealogy with a little effort. Babylon was below Assyria as per where these peoples originated.

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I call them Turks, he will be an Assyrian from the peoples of that Northern Iraq, Southern Turkey, and much of what is now Syrian area. As per Lebanon, yes that was a part of the Assyrian Empire, but it was not where the Assyrian Empire was from/originated. Its basically a people(s) who consider themselves Turks brother.

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This is why I call him a Turk, the area of Turkey, Syria and Northern Iraq were the Assyrian Empires Stronghold so to speak, their roots.
 
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The Assyrian is discussed in Isaiah 7, 10, 14, 30, and 31, in Micah 5, and in every chapter of Nahum. And most of the prophecies about him are explicitly stated in plain language. And they are filled with details that have unquestionably never been fulfilled.
 
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If Hades is the guardian of the pit (as the new "hell" thread at CF is saying) then Hades is Abaddon with the keys to the pit. So that their covenant with death is their covenant with Abaddon.
I am thinking Hades, hell, is the place of the dead (for humans), and the bottomless pit (for demons and fallen angels) is the great chasm separating the two sides of hell.

I think Abaddon is in that bottomless pit right now.

The souls of Christians when they pass away go to heaven, not included in the above analysis.
 
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The Assyrian is discussed in Isaiah 7, 10, 14, 30, and 31, in Micah 5, and in every chapter of Nahum. And most of the prophecies about him are explicitly stated in plain language. And they are filled with details that have unquestionably never been fulfilled.
James, could you list the specific verses in each one of those chapters, if it is not too much trouble? Except for Nahum, since you said in every chapter.

James, if it is too much trouble, don't bother, okay?
 
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As per Lebanon, yes that was a part of the Assyrian Empire, but it was not where the Assyrian Empire was from/originated.

Personnally, I don't think that Josephus was correct. And it is upon his works (with the background of Against Apion), that biblical geography was created. Am I wrong about that, RT? Are you thinking that poor old Shem got himself nothing more than a postage-stamp to stand upon, while Japhethites have papered the globe? People say that Shem got Asia... I don't know which part of Asia they're talking about, but IMHO, Japheth went East.

Someone wrote a book called Hebrew is Greek; and someone else, oddly using Ugaritic cuniform to demonstrate, claims that the Greek and Hebrew Civilizations run parallel. Since both of those someone's are Jewish... maybe they see what Gentiles are disallowed to see. My whole point is that basing the Biblical who's who upon the writings of a man who had an axe to grind because of Diodorus et al, probably isn't the wisest thing to do. Especially given the language of Akkad. If you want to think that Akkad morphed into greater Turkestan, I don't blame you... but the Mongol Turks came from Central Asia.

And oddly enough, that's where the Indo-European homeland seems to be. Which means that Japheth went East. And then he came to invade Europe as the Barbarian hordes. He was never in Asia Minor. He was never in the Aegean... but Ham sure was, and so was Shem. Because Sparta was Semitic. And (having to rethink myself) possibly, so was the Danaoi. In fact we know that Israel was a colonizer extraordinaire... 50,000 in Alexandria, etc., ad nauseam. And since more and more people are seeing Phoenician as a Semitic language... And some of us have even read the OP verses... I'm betting we'll continue to agree to disagree, RT.

Because if the Indo-European language proves that their homeland is West-Central Asia, why in the world do people continue to think that Europe was a vast wasteland the whole while that Shem held on to his 'God's Little Acre' inheritance? Who do they think the Mediterranean Race was, if Latin and Greek and German came from Asia? All over Europe, are the bones of the Mediterranean Race. Including Britain.
 
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I am thinking Hades, hell, is the place of the dead (for humans), and the bottomless pit (for demons and fallen angels) is the great chasm separating the two sides of hell.

I think Abaddon is in that bottomless pit right now.

The souls of Christians when they pass away go to heaven, not included in the above analysis.

The only way the Turks could make a covenant with Abaddon is if there are Turks pretending to be Israelites. Isn't the overflowing scourge of Islam denuding the land of monuments having to do with the owners of those lands? Book-burning, done by barbarians.
 
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The only way the Turks could make a covenant with Abaddon is if there are Turks pretending to be Israelites. Isn't the overflowing scourge of Islam denuding the land of monuments having to do with the owners of those lands? Book-burning, done by barbarians.
I think you have my view and someone else's (Revealing Times) view mixed up. To me, Abaddon is the angel in the bottlemss pit, who gene engieered the flesh tormenting locust creatures in Revelation 9. Other than being an evil angel who wants to destroys things, there is not much on him.

Revealing Times, I think views Abaddon as possessing the end time person who will be killed and brought back to life. I do not think,it is Abaddon, but someone else, likely the disembodied spirit of Nimrod.
 
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But what if Shem inherited Asia... including all of the Arabian lands, and all of the Caucasus? There must be some reason why the linguists call Hebrew the same as Akkadian. And Josephus says he's related to the Bactrians... right next to the Scythians and Persians homelands.

What if the some of the Celts are being called Iberian and Pelasgian?

And what if the rest of Japheth came to Europe from Central Asia, with the Indo-Germanic tribes? Don't the Irish say that they stayed around Babel?

Davies says that the Cymry are the people Herodotus said lived as far west as you could go, beyond the Celts. And Celtica is what they called Europe, just as they called the whole Peloponnese Pelasgia. And Ashkenaz is shown by Bochart to be pausing at the exact place that the Cymry call their sumerland. Davies is almost the only person who doesn't mistake the peaceful Cymry with the invasive Cimmerians.

Davies, Celtic Researches talks about that... and so much more.
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I think you have my view and someone else's (Revealing Times) view mixed up. To me, Abaddon is the angel in the bottlemss pit, who gene engieered the flesh tormenting locust creatures in Revelation 9. Other than being an evil angel who wants to destroys things, there is not much on him.

Revealing Times, I think views Abaddon as possessing the end time person who will be killed and brought back to life. I do not think,it is Abaddon, but someone else, likely the disembodied spirit of Nimrod.

Nimrod went south a long time ago... he's probably part of Africa... making your ac a thoroughly black man. Interesting idea. But doesn't God always use His people to discipline His people? When were the Shepherd Kings in Egypt? Because only those people would have accepted Joseph as their leader. And since God calls last days Egypt His people, they probably aren't Noah's servant of servants.

Davies says in Celtic Researches that only some people were at Babel, so only some of them had lost the knowledge that Noah had given them (his discussion on Job and the science that was in the world at that time is a very good read), so that they had no language to pass on their science which eventually died out, leaving them troglodites. This is why I don't think the ac can be Nimrod.
 
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I am well schooled in all things prophecy my brother

I call them Turks, he will be an Assyrian from the peoples of that Northern Iraq, Southern Turkey, and much of what is now Syrian area. As per Lebanon, yes that was a part of the Assyrian Empire, but it was not where the Assyrian Empire was from/originated. Its basically a people(s) who consider themselves Turks brother.

If Chaldea is actually Babylon, and has been since Nimrod's tower fell (between Genesis 10:10-11 which makes the editorial change of v.11 all wrong), then the Babylonians after that point are all Semitic. (Sumer was probably Scythian... by looks and by art forms, as well as by the epithet of Scythianism.) And if those faces on the monuments of Persia and Nineveh are actually Semites... those guys look more than a little bit like Turks... doesn't Josephus say that the 10 tribes were in Media etc.? Where did the Turks come from? (All of which means that the Assyrian built Tyre for some people who were dwelling in the wilderness... at some other time... a people who had gone missing for 70 years... but went back to harlotry.)
 
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Nimrod went south a long time ago... he's probably part of Africa... making your ac a thoroughly black man
Whether Nimrod was black or not at the time he was alive, I don't know. But when he died, he became a disembodied spirit.

If it is Nimrod, as the beast in the bottomless pit, in spirit form, he does not possess the end times person until after that person has gone through his Antichrist stint as the King of Israel (illegitimate).

An analogy would be Barak Obama was first a communtiy activist, then senator Obama, then president Obama. Once he had become president Obama, he was no longer senator Obama.


Once the person becomes the beast 8th Julio Claudian King of Roman Empire, he is no longer the Antichrist, King of Israel (illegimate).
 
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The Assyrian of prophecy is the end time ruler of Assyria. (it may come as a surprise to many to learn that a very large number of modern individuals still ethnically identify themselves as "Assyrians.")

This end time individual is missed by many students because they assume these prophecies deal only with the ancient Sennacherib, king of Assyria. (Isaiah 36-37) There can be no doubt that Sennacherib was the occasion of these prophecies; but they are filled with details that go far beyond him to the last days.

1 Peter 1:10-11 says that “the prophets... who prophesied of the grace that would come to you,” “inquired and searched carefully... searching what, or what manner of time, the Spirit of Christ who was in them was indicating when He testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow.” Both suffering and glory were prophesied for the Messiah. But how could both be true? Since the time of the New Testament, we now know these prophecies applied to two different times, separated by thousands of years. This mixture of prophecies concerning widely separated times is very common in scripture, as becomes evident when we study the Assyrian.

Sennacherib attacked Judah during the righteous reign of king Hezekiah, who “trusted in the LORD God of Israel, so that after him was none like him among all the kings of Judah, nor who were before him. For he held fast to the LORD; he did not depart from following Him, but kept His commandments, which the LORD had commanded Moses.” (2 Kings 18:5-6) “Also the hand of God was on Judah to give them singleness of heart to obey the command of the king and the leaders, at the word of the LORD.” (2 Chronicles 30:12) But “after these deeds of faithfulness, Sennacherib king of Assyria came and entered Judah; he encamped against the fortified cities, thinking to win them over to himself.” (2 Chronicles 32:1) Hezekiah cried out to the Lord, who answered him, “I will defend this city, to save it For My own sake and for My servant David's sake.” (Isaiah 37:35)

But in Isaiah 10:6, the Lord says of the king of Assyria that “I will send him against an ungodly nation, And against the people of My wrath I will give him charge, To seize the spoil, to take the prey, And to tread them down like the mire of the streets.” Both Hezekiah and his people had been righteous and the Lord promised to save them from Sennacherib. But in the day described in Isaiah 10 the nation will have been ungodly and He will send Assyria to punish them. The first Assyrian was an enemy of God, while the second will actually be His agent.

But this latter day Assyrian does not intend to serve God, “nor does his heart think so.” (Isaiah 10:7) He will therefore be punished “when the LORD has performed all His work on Mount Zion and on Jerusalem.” (verse 12) “And it shall come to pass in that day that the remnant of Israel, And such as have escaped of the house of ·Jacob, Will never again depend on him who defeated them, But will depend on the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, in truth.” (verse 20) These details clearly apply to the last days. The Lord's “work on Mount Zion and on Jerusalem” will not be finished until all prophecy concerning them has been fulfilled, and even to this day Israel has not learned to “depend on the Lord, the Holy One of Israel, in truth.”

In Micah 5:5-6 we read that “When the Assyrian comes into our land, And when he treads in our palaces, Then we will raise against him Seven shepherds and eight princely men. They shall waste with the sword the land of Assyria, And the land of Nimrod at its entrances; Thus He shall deliver us from the Assyrian, When he comes into our land And when he treads within our borders.” This prophecy, which was given at about the same time as that of Isaiah, was never fulfilled in ancient times. When Sennacherib invaded Judea, no one rose to oppose him, much less “Seven shepherds and eight princely men.” And Israel has never wasted “the land of Assyria” “with the sword.”

In Isaiah 14, immediately after saying the Assyrian would be destroyed, (verses 24-27) the Lord added, “do not rejoice, all you of Philistia, Because the rod that struck you is broken; For out of the serpent's roots will come forth a viper, And its ·offspring will be a fiery flying serpent... Wail, O gate! Cry, O city! All you of Philistia are dissolved; For smoke will come from the north, And no one will be alone in his appointed times.” (verses 29-31) In stating that “out of the serpent's roots will come forth a viper” and that “its ·offspring will be a fiery flying serpent,” this passage clearly sets forth two separate attacks, one in the past (relative to the time referred to) and one in the future. These two attacks are separated in time by an unspecified number of generations, as the second attacker is the “·offspring” of the first.

Shortly after this prophecy was given, Sennacherib attacked the land of the Philistines. Some might think this was the second attack mentioned in this prophecy. But this would require that the first attack be one that had been made by either Tiglath-Pileser III or Sargon II. Each of these previous Assyrian kings had been an ancestor of Sennacherib. Each of them had conquered Philistia. And both of them were dead. But the words “the rod that struck you is broken” could not realistically be applied to either of them. The power of Assyria had not been “broken” when either of these kings had died. On the other hand, both Isaiah 37:35 and 2 Kings 19:35 tell of a most remarkable destruction of Sennacherib’s army by “the angel of the Lord.” The words “the rod that struck you is broken” clearly fit this defeat. These facts make it clear that Sennacherib is the first attacker in this prophecy, not the second one.

In the first chapter of Nahum “one Who plots evil against the LORD, A wicked counselor,” (verse 11) comes forth from Nineveh, (Nahum 2:8 and 3:7) the ancient capitol of Assyria. In the next to the last verse of the prophecy, this “wicked counselor” is expressly called the “king of Assyria.” (Nahum 3:18) The Lord declares that He will make “an utter end” of this invasion, adding that “affliction will not rise up a second time.” (Nahum 1:9) He then tells His people that “though I have afflicted you, I will afflict you no more.” (verse 12) The Divine history and many prophecies clearly show that Judah’s affliction did not end at the destruction of Sennacherib. The Assyrian invasion was only the beginning of her great and long affliction, which has not yet ended. Indeed, their greatest affliction is still future.

Both the severity and the long duration of this affliction are stressed in the fifth through the tenth chapters of Isaiah. The twenty-fifth verse of the fifth chapter tells us, “Therefore the anger of the LORD is aroused against His people; He has stretched out His hand against them And stricken them.” Then follow the words; “For all this His anger is not turned away, But His hand is stretched out still.” These last words are repeated over and over in the following chapters. (Isaiah 9:12, 9:17, 9:21, and 10:4) The significance of this doleful refrain finally appears in Isaiah 10:24-25: “Therefore thus says the Lord GOD of hosts: ‘O My people, who dwell in Zion, do not be afraid of the Assyrian. He shall strike you with a rod and lift up his staff against you, in the manner of Egypt. For yet a very little while and the indignation will cease, as will My anger in their destruction.’”

The Lord's indignation against His people who dwell “in Zion,” that is, “Jerusalem,” (verse 32) will continue until “the Assyrian” is destroyed. When this takes place, however, the indignation will cease and His anger will finally be “turned away.” How fitting it is that the first of the gentile conquerors of God's people should also be the last; that Judah's thousands of years of suffering should finally be ended in the destruction of their first great oppressor.
 
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Whether Nimrod was black or not at the time he was alive, I don't know. But when he died, he became a disembodied spirit.

If it is Nimrod, as the beast in the bottomless pit, in spirit form, he does not possess the end times person until after that person has gone through his Antichrist stint as the King of Israel (illegitimate).

An analogy would be Barak Obama was first a communtiy activist, then senator Obama, then president Obama. Once he had become president Obama, he was no longer senator Obama.


Once the person becomes the beast 8th Julio Claudian King of Roman Empire, he is no longer the Antichrist, King of Israel (illegimate).

Nimrod was the leader of a rebellion against God. When Nimrod left Babel unfinished and was scattered to his rightful home in Egypt, what did the Chaldeans do but finish building it?

Babylonian Nebuchadnezzar must have been a Semite. And that "king of kings" demanded that Daniel and his friends worship the golden statue.

In Nebuchadnezzar et al, man became deified. In him, deities became statues and icons. In him, man worshipped the sun and the planets, and all of the systems stemming from the worship of those rocks. In him, we see the pantheon of gods and goddesses in Greece and Egypt. In him, we see the fire worshippers of Persia. In him, we see Brachmanism and Druidism. And in the face of Babylon we will see that the worship of rocks and trees has never changed. Every American Idol, every football hero, every black wall containing the names of the dead, every cemetary wreathed in flowers, every pedestalled-saint standing in an altar of candles... in every portrait or statue, we are taught by Nicolaitanes what to see about Jesus.

Every idol will represent Nebuchadnezzar before his heart was changed, in every creeping thing Ezekiel warned us about, every idol everywhere. Solomonism with his thousand foreign wives with their house idols, like Jacob's first choice had from her father the Semite... standing right in the temple, as statues in christian church buildings.

Isn't this what the Assyrian tells us that he came to destroy in Israel? But the Assyrian created a city for those who dwelt in the wilderness, and those people were captive for 70 years... these are the Judahites... these are they who went on to be called Phoenicians, and who created the covetousness of the entire world.

About whom they are told to render unto her double. Her harlotry has not gone unnoticed, and her sins are ever before the face of God. God gave her every good thing... which she uses to this day, as clothing for her idols. And don't the gentiles she taught do the same? Jezebel-Babylon, the sorceress and merchant.
 
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the gentile conquerors of God's people

Assyrians and Babylonians and Persians are all Semites, as were the Greek Spartans: The composite nature of the statue of Gold, Silver and Bronze.
 
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