Oh, yes, you are so comfortable you directly avoided answering a question about chapter 9 multiple times.
Sorry tall I have not avoided answering your questions in Hebrews 9 at all I posted on this in detail and you were asking questions not relavent that were already answered in
post # 489
When else did the high priest enter into God's presence with blood, YEARLY? Yes, it references the once per year cleansing with blood by the high priest. Which is exactly what is referenced in 9:25.
In relation to Hebrews 9 post # 489 show that the context and topic odf discussion is comparing the earthly and heavenly Sanctuary's and the content and ministration between them both.
There is
no scripture provided here whatsoever that states in any way that the day of atonement has started. Simply that Christs perfect sacrifice is sufficient for all sin and the heavenly ministration.
The context which talked about how the earthly type culminated in the entry with blood by the high priest.
No need to guess here please read
post # 489 as we have gone through the whole chapter context prior to Hebrews 9:23-25 and there is no scripture that agrees with your teaching that the day of atonement has started.
And then goes on to picture that:
HEBREWS 9:23-25 [23], It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
The patterns of things in heaven must also be purified with blood and sacrifice (Context)
Sorry tall, the context of v23-25 as shown in
post # 489 is v12-22. Now the main focus of conversation is a comparison on the earthly sacrifices and the blood of the covenants and how Christs sacrifice and blood is prefect and all sufficient for all sin to obtain redemption for us in the ministration of the heavenly Sanctuary under the new covenant. Just as the blood and animal sacrifices were used in the earthly Christs perfect sacrifice given once and for all is sufficient for all sin.
Actually this same discussion of Christs perfect sacrifice is continued into Hebrews 10.
HEBREW 10.
[1], For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things,
can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the ones approaching perfect.
[2], For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because the worshipers once purged should have had no more consciousness of sins.
[3],
But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
[4], For
it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
[5], Therefore when he comes into the world, he says, Sacrifice and offering you desired not, but a body have you prepared me:
[6], In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin you have had no pleasure.
[7], Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do your will, O God.
[8], Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin you desired not, neither had pleasure in them; which are offered by the law;
[9], Then said he, Lo, I come to do your will, O God.
He takes away the first, that he may establish the second (Covenants and Sanctury's).
[10],
By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
[11], And
every priest stands daily ministering and offering frequently the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: (earthly)
[12], But this man, after he had offered
one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down on the right hand of God;
So NO Hebrews 9:23-25 is not talking about the day of atonement starting. It is simply comparing the earthly and the Heavenly Sanctuaries and the ministration between both of them with Christ's perfect sacrifice and ministration in the Heavenly.
Yes, and the Day of Atonement, as you have said many times, is about cleansing the sanctuary. And here it discusses it. Just as verse 7 mentioned it as the culmination of the earthly type.
[24], For Christ has not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us Entered.Now to appear in God's presence.' What did the high priest do in the type? Entered into God's presence.
Now tall, be nice, I have never said that Hebrews 9 does not discuss the day of atonement. It is discussing
ALL of the Sanctuary ministration comparing the earlthy with the heavenly.
This is shown in
post # 489 and the context of Hebrews 9 when Paul is comparing both the earthly and heavenly Sanctuary and ministration between both the earthly and heavenly.
What the chapter shows and the linked post # 489, is that this chapter is in
no way saying whatsoever that the day of atonement has started. It is simply discussing the earthly ministration and comparing it to the heavenly nothing more.
This post pretty much answers all your smaller posts above as well
Let me know if you would like to discusss any of the smaller once. They seem to be pretty much repetition and to an argument of something that you think I believe but do not (saying Hebrews is not referring to the day of atonement).
I have already said it is referring to the day of atonement. What I think you do not understand that I am saying is that these scriptures are not a reference to the commencement of the day of atonement.
Hebrews 8-10 are simply comparing of the earthly and heavenly ministrations. They are not saying the day of atonement has started.
Hope this helps.
