Ezekiel's Temple: why are we still not building?

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This is not Ezekiel's Temple. Ezekiel's Temple is not like the First and Second Temples. According to the prophecy of Ezekiel, the building of Ezekiel's Temple expands upwards: the upper floors are wider than the lower ones. The whole area around Ezekiel's Temple is planned differently than the area around the First and Second Temples. Such a planning of the territory around the Temple excludes the possibility that Ezekiel's Temple could be built on the site of the former temples in Jerusalem.

Instead of the holiday complex of buildings for the marriage feast described in the prophecy of Ezekiel, someone suggests building a dull semblance of a prison with high walls surrounded by cemeteries around. And they want the Lord God to live in this prison! This will never happen.

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On both riverbanks will grow all kinds of trees for food; their leaves will not dry up, nor will their fruit fail. There will be a different kind of fruit each month, because the water flows from the sanctuary, so that this fruit will be edible, and the leaves will have healing properties.”

Ch 47 of yecheskel is a gentle reminder of the promise fullfilled.

How blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they have the right to eat from the Tree of Life and go through the gates into the city! 15 Outside are the homosexuals, those involved with the occult and with drugs, the sexually immoral, murderers, idol-worshippers, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood. 16 “I, Yeshua, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the Messianic communities. I am the Root and Offspring of David, the bright Morning Star. 17 The Spirit and the Bride say, ‘Come!’ Let anyone who hears say, ‘Come!’ And let anyone who is thirsty come — let anyone who wishes, take the water of life free of charge.”

18 I warn everyone hearing the words of the prophecy in this book that if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues written in this book. 19 And if anyone takes anything away from the words in the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the Tree of Life and the holy city, as described in this book.

20 “The one who is testifying to these things says, ‘Yes, I am coming soon!’”

Amen! Come, Lord Yeshua!

21 May the grace of the Lord Yeshua be with all!
 
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This is not Ezekiel's Temple. Ezekiel's Temple is not like the First and Second Temples. According to the prophecy of Ezekiel, the building of Ezekiel's Temple expands upwards: the upper floors are wider than the lower ones. The whole area around Ezekiel's Temple is planned differently than the area around the First and Second Temples. Such a planning of the territory around the Temple excludes the possibility that Ezekiel's Temple could be built on the site of the former temples in Jerusalem.

Instead of the holiday complex of buildings for the marriage feast described in the prophecy of Ezekiel, someone suggests building a dull semblance of a prison with high walls surrounded by cemeteries around. And they want the Lord God to live in this prison! This will never happen.

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I know....I believe the Jews plan to build another temple in that location to simply return to Judaism...it will be the third temple of the Jews

Then Daniel's 70 weeks prophecy will begin...


Ezekiel temple will be built by Yahshua at the end of Daniel's 70 weeks or after 490 years and it will remain for 1000 years ....
 
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Ch 47 of yecheskel is a gentle reminder of the promise fullfilled.
Do you really think that along the creeks Nahal Hever and Nahal Arugot in the Judean desert are already growing fruit trees, and in the bend of the Dead Sea between Ein Gedi and Ein Eglaim today, someone is fishing?

And it shall come to pass, that the fishers shall stand upon it from Engedi even unto Eneglaim; they shall be a place to spread forth nets; their fish shall be according to their kinds, as the fish of the great sea, exceeding many.
(Ezekiel 47:10)


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I assure you, there is a desert, and the Dead Sea is dead.
 
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I know....I believe the Jews plan to build another temple in that location to simply return to Judaism...it will be the third temple of the Jews

Then Daniel's 70 weeks prophecy will begin...


Ezekiel temple will be built by Yahshua at the end of Daniel's 70 weeks or after 490 years and it will remain for 1000 years ....
Jews will not be able to build a copy of the Second Temple, because there are already drawings of Ezekiel's Temple. Any attempt to build a Temple on a mountain that is under the control of Muslim muftis will lead to a great war, Israeli politicians will never dare to do this, they have more important problems - for example, the Iranian nuclear program and the Lebanese Hezbollah.

As for the seventy weeks of Daniel, the 69 weeks are long gone - from the oral order of King Araxerxes, in the book of Esther (8: 8), until the resurrection of Jesus Christ in 32 AD. passed exactly 483 years (69x7), with an accuracy of one day.

Protestant theologians passed by this fact, because the English translations of the Bible incorrectly named the king's name in the book of Esther. According to the Septuagint, the book of Esther refers to King Artaxerxes.

As for the last, the 70th week, there are different opinions. It is possible that after the construction of Ezekiel's Temple, only three and a half years will remain until the complete victory of Jesus Christ in this world. In any case, in the construction of the Third Temple, we will be guided not by the prophecy of Daniel, but by the prophecy of Ezekiel.

By the way, the prophecy about 2300 evenings and mornings perfectly fits into the picture of Ezekiel's Temple, the consecration of which should be completed by 10 Tishrei. But we should not be guided by this prophecy, because today's urgent task is to build Ezekiel's Temple and bring back to life the Church, which today is killed by denominations.
 
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Jews will not be able to build a copy of the Second Temple, because there are already drawings of Ezekiel's Temple. Any attempt to build a Temple on a mountain that is under the control of Muslim muftis will lead to a great war, Israeli politicians will never dare to do this, they have more important problems - for example, the Iranian nuclear program and the Lebanese Hezbollah.

As for the seventy weeks of Daniel, the 69 weeks are long gone - from the oral order of King Araxerxes, in the book of Esther (8: 8), until the resurrection of Jesus Christ in 32 AD. passed exactly 483 years (69x7), with an accuracy of one day.

Protestant theologians passed by this fact, because the English translations of the Bible incorrectly named the king's name in the book of Esther. According to the Septuagint, the book of Esther refers to King Artaxerxes.

As for the last, the 70th week, there are different opinions. It is possible that after the construction of Ezekiel's Temple, only three and a half years will remain until the complete victory of Jesus Christ in this world. In any case, in the construction of the Third Temple, we will be guided not by the prophecy of Daniel, but by the prophecy of Ezekiel.

By the way, the prophecy about 2300 evenings and mornings perfectly fits into the picture of Ezekiel's Temple, the consecration of which should be completed by 10 Tishrei. But we should not be guided by this prophecy, because today's urgent task is to build Ezekiel's Temple and bring back to life the Church, which today is killed by denominations.

I ain't no prophet so will see what happens...but Ezekiel temple should only be built by the true messiah when he comes...so that we will know we are in the true millennium...

If I'm not mistaken the Jews have dominion over the city of David and so they can build whatever they want ...if backed by US and Russia whose to stop them....are there not churches built in Jerusalem? What's a temple to the Arabs? There are 3 quarters in Jerusalem ...Jewish Christian and Muslim quarters...I would think the temple will be build in the Jewish quarter....no war is needed...
 
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2300 evenings and mornings mean that the "evening sacrifice" will be rejected - the sacrifice of Jesus Christ will be rejected (He died in the evening), and the "morning sacrifice" will be rejected - the saints, messengers of 144,000 first-born churches from around the world will be rejected. Moreover, orthodox Judaism will reject both the morning sacrifice (of the saints) and the evening sacrifice (of Jesus Christ) - from 10 Tishrei to 9 Ava (the 6th vial of the wrath of God, that withers the "Euphrates River", which is the symbol of Judaism). And the official Christian religion, that is, the majority of denominations (except 7 thousand, which will cease to exist immediately after 10 Tishrei), will only deny the "morning sacrifice" (the saints who entered the Temple through the Eastern Gate) - up to 1 Nisan of the fourth year (7th vial of the wrath of God). There everything coincides with the accuracy of one day. But until the Temple is built, we can not begin the count: we can not count evenings and mornings from an event that has not happened yet.

I suppose that the period of 2,300 evenings and mornings can consist of 1010 evenings, 1010 mornings and another 280 mornings.
 
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Ezekiel temple will be built by Yahshua ...
If this were so, then Ezekiel's prophecy did not specify the exact dimensions, and the sequence of sacrifices in the days of the sanctification of the altar would not have been indicated. These details are not needed by Messiah Yeshua, but we need these details in the description of the Temple so that we can build this Temple.

You can be sure that Jesus Christ will not come until the Temple that was shown to Ezekiel is built. If we do not build this Temple, then we should forget about the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.
 
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If this were so, then Ezekiel's prophecy did not specify the exact dimensions, and the sequence of sacrifices in the days of the sanctification of the altar would not have been indicated. These details are not needed by Messiah Yeshua, but we need these details in the description of the Temple so that we can build this Temple.

You can be sure that Jesus Christ will not come until the Temple that was shown to Ezekiel is built. If we do not build this Temple, then we should forget about the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.
Since you are of the construct that Ezekiel can not be fulfilled, it must be re-considered, for one reason, God does not lie. Therefore, it is time to revisit the prophecies and think who could possible step in and fill these shoes. What man can not believe possible, God does. It is our job to see how, through prayer and study. But first wipe the table clean from the previous man man theologies and allow God to teach.
 
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Since you are of the construct that Ezekiel can not be fulfilled, it must be re-considered, for one reason, God does not lie. Therefore, it is time to revisit the prophecies and think who could possible step in and fill these shoes. What man can not believe possible, God does. It is our job to see how, through prayer and study. But first wipe the table clean from the previous man man theologies and allow God to teach.
I did not understand what you are proposing? My weak knowledge of English does not allow me to understand the complex structures of your proposals. Do we still have any prophecies that tell us that we still should not build the Temple today?
 
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What do you make of Ezekiel 47 about the River from the temple?
First, this stream of water has a source on the right side of the facade of the Temple, under the threshold of the House.

... and the waters came down from under from the right side of the house ... (Ezekiel 47:1)

The right side of the building is the side that is to your right, when you are facing this building, facing it.

Secondly, in Ezekiel's prophecy it is further written that this stream of water is on the south side of the altar:

... at the south side of the altar. (Ezekiel 47:1)

The south side of the altar is to the left of the observer facing the Temple. From this we can conclude that the flow of water crosses the path through which priests should enter the Temple.

If we do not want the priests to enter the Temple with wet feet, there must be a bridge along which they will cross this stream of water.

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From an additional version of the Masoretic text we know the parameters of the staircase, by which rise the priests should rise enter the porch of the House. This staircase has ten steps. (Next, we determine that if the floor height of the first floor of the Temple is equal to an integer number of elbows, then it is equal to three elbows (144 cm), the height of one step is 144 mm, the step width is 340 mm. This is unambiguous.) But back to the flow of water.

Thirdly, Ezekiel says that this stream of water flowed out of the temple complex to the right of the East Gate:

Then brought he me out of the way of the gate northward, and led me about the way without unto the utter gate by the way that looketh eastward; and, behold, there ran out waters on the right side. (Ezekiel 47:2)

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That is, Ezekiel stood outside the temple complex, facing the East Gate, and he saw that the water flow was coming out on the right side of the gate. Hence, on the way between the altar and the Eastern gate, this stream of water passed from one side to the other. The most convenient option for such a channel will be the diagonal that crosses the outer court.

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Since the prophecy of Ezekiel says that the visitors of the Temple are obliged to enter and leave the Temple by various gates (the East Gate at that time will already be closed forever), it turns out that any visitor to the Temple must necessarily cross this stream.

But when the people of the land shall come before the LORD in the solemn feasts, he that entereth in by the way of the north gate to worship shall go out by the way of the south gate; and he that entereth by the way of the south gate shall go forth by the way of the north gate: he shall not return by the way of the gate whereby he came in, but shall go forth over against it. (Ezekiel 46:10)

That is, if we do not build bridges to cross this stream, any visitor will unwittingly wash their feet in the water of this stream. I think that this should suit us perfectly: we remember how Jesus Christ washed his disciples' feet.

Since we have already determined the location of this Temple, guided by the measurements of the holy allotment in the prophecy of Ezekiel, we now know that a few dozen meters from the northeast corner of the temple complex is the watershed of the two brooks of the Judean desert: Nahal Hever and Nahal Arugot.

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In the English translation of the Bible there is a certain problem in this verse:

And it shall come to pass, that every thing that liveth, which moveth, whithersoever the rivers shall come, shall live: and there shall be a very great multitude of fish, because these waters shall come thither: for they shall be healed; and every thing shall live whither the river cometh. (Ezekiel 4:9)

In the Masoretic text, the dual number is used there, so we need to clarify that two separate streams must enter the Dead Sea. Given the fact that the Temple will be built near the Nahal Hever and Nahal Arugot watershed, we can guess that one stream will flow into the Dead Sea near Ein Gedi (Nahal Arugoth), and the second stream will flow into the Dead Sea near Ein Eglaim, the location which modern Hebraists do not know anything.

But since we know that this second creek is the stream of Nahal Hever, we determine the place where it enters the Dead Sea exactly.

Here we need a little understanding of toponymy. The name "Ein Gedi" is translated from Hebrew as "The Source of the Goatling (Kid)". The name "Ein Eglaim" is translated from Hebrew as "The Source of Two Heifer". We can see satellite images in Google, it is seen that before the confluence of the Dead Sea Nahal Heaver stream splits into two streams.

Thus, consistently moving forward to the 47th chapter of Ezekiel, we received as a bonus the identification of the previously unknown biblical place with the mouth of the Nahal Hever stream.

Comparing this our geographical discovery with the plan of the holy allotment, we see: the bend of the coast of the Dead Sea between Ein Gedi and Ein Eglaim is inside the holy allotment. Fishermen, about whom it is written in the prophecy of Ezekiel, will fish in the territory of the holy allotment.

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And it shall come to pass, that the fishers shall stand upon it from Engedi even unto Eneglaim; they shall be a place to spread forth nets; their fish shall be according to their kinds, as the fish of the great sea, exceeding many. (Ezekiel 47:10)

Thus, we were able to make sure that the whole picture of the geographical details of modern Israel coincides with the prophesy of Ezekiel to the smallest detail.
 

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Putin is a thug and a murderer, and all those who elect Putin as their president are animals. Anyone who thinks that a House for God can be built by a murderer is deeply mistaken.
My exact reaction when i read that Israeli article (BIN). So, what was the Sanhedrin thinking? Why would the Sanhedrin be so "deeply mistaken." That's why i posted the article because you being from Russia would know what was the Sanhedrins motivation to seemingly involve Putin. Is it all political jostling and if so how does that make the Sanhedrin like they have the upper hand?
 
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I did not understand what you are proposing? My weak knowledge of English does not allow me to understand the complex structures of your proposals. Do we still have any prophecies that tell us that we still should not build the Temple today?

When I read this I imagine a Russian with a Russian accent ...like that Russian astronaut in the movie Armageddon...lol
 
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My exact reaction when i read that Israeli article (BIN). So, what was the Sanhedrin thinking? Why would the Sanhedrin be so "deeply mistaken." That's why i posted the article because you being from Russia would know what was the Sanhedrins motivation to seemingly involve Putin. Is it all political jostling and if so how does that make the Sanhedrin like they have the upper hand?
I think all these political games and jostling are a waste of time. That Temple, which the Sanhedrin would like to build, will never be built. Expectations of many Christians who think that the devil wants to build a trap for himself will not come true. The entire Christian theory that the antichrist will sit in the Jewish temple is erroneous.

For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth [will let,] until he be taken out of the way. (2 Thessalonians 2:7)

taken out of the way
- there is nothing like this in the Greek original.


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Instead of "taken out" there is one of the forms of the Greek root "ginomai", which can mean:

1) to become, i.e. to come into existence, begin to be, receive being
2) to become, i.e. to come to pass, happen
2a) of events
3) to arise, appear in history, come upon the stage
3a) of men appearing in public
4) to be made, finished
4a) of miracles, to be performed, wrought
5) to become, be made

Strong – 1096

That is, the mystery of iniquity doth already work, but this iniquity will remain a mystery until something appears that will reveal this mystery to all. Therefore, there will appear not the antichrist, but the unity of the saints in Jesus Christ, which will become visible to all when the saints pass through the Eastern gate of the Third Temple. And this, the visible unity of the saints who have left their previous denominations, will reveal another part of Christianity that will oppose this Temple. Then some world leader may appear who will entice a significant part of Christians and other people with the gospel of prosperity, or something similar.

We must understand that the active side, establishing the kingdom of God in the world, should be us, not the devil. The devil will fiercely resist, he will never agree to build himself such a temple, where he will be convicted in three and a half years.

Therefore, I would urge all of us not to pay attention to Trump or Putin, ignore the political games of the Sanhedrin, and instead take active steps to implement the project of the Messianic Temple in accordance with the prophesy of Ezekiel.
 
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When I read this I imagine a Russian with a Russian accent ...like that Russian astronaut in the movie Armageddon...lol
This is a very accurate image of the Russian, although fantastic. But I'm not Russian.
 
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First, this stream of water has a source on the right side of the facade of the Temple, under the threshold of the House.

... and the waters came down from under from the right side of the house ... (Ezekiel 47:1)

The right side of the building is the side that is to your right, when you are facing this building, facing it.

Secondly, in Ezekiel's prophecy it is further written that this stream of water is on the south side of the altar:

... at the south side of the altar. (Ezekiel 47:1)

The south side of the altar is to the left of the observer facing the Temple. From this we can conclude that the flow of water crosses the path through which priests should enter the Temple.

If we do not want the priests to enter the Temple with wet feet, there must be a bridge along which they will cross this stream of water.

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From an additional version of the Masoretic text we know the parameters of the staircase, by which rise the priests should rise enter the porch of the House. This staircase has ten steps. (Next, we determine that if the floor height of the first floor of the Temple is equal to an integer number of elbows, then it is equal to three elbows (144 cm), the height of one step is 144 mm, the step width is 340 mm. This is unambiguous.) But back to the flow of water.

Thirdly, Ezekiel says that this stream of water flowed out of the temple complex to the right of the East Gate:

Then brought he me out of the way of the gate northward, and led me about the way without unto the utter gate by the way that looketh eastward; and, behold, there ran out waters on the right side. (Ezekiel 47:2)

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That is, Ezekiel stood outside the temple complex, facing the East Gate, and he saw that the water flow was coming out on the right side of the gate. Hence, on the way between the altar and the Eastern gate, this stream of water passed from one side to the other. The most convenient option for such a channel will be the diagonal that crosses the outer court.

View attachment 230310

Since the prophecy of Ezekiel says that the visitors of the Temple are obliged to enter and leave the Temple by various gates (the East Gate at that time will already be closed forever), it turns out that any visitor to the Temple must necessarily cross this stream.

But when the people of the land shall come before the LORD in the solemn feasts, he that entereth in by the way of the north gate to worship shall go out by the way of the south gate; and he that entereth by the way of the south gate shall go forth by the way of the north gate: he shall not return by the way of the gate whereby he came in, but shall go forth over against it. (Ezekiel 46:10)

That is, if we do not build bridges to cross this stream, any visitor will unwittingly wash their feet in the water of this stream. I think that this should suit us perfectly: we remember how Jesus Christ washed his disciples' feet.

Since we have already determined the location of this Temple, guided by the measurements of the holy allotment in the prophecy of Ezekiel, we now know that a few dozen meters from the northeast corner of the temple complex is the watershed of the two brooks of the Judean desert: Nahal Hever and Nahal Arugot.

View attachment 230313

In the English translation of the Bible there is a certain problem in this verse:

And it shall come to pass, that every thing that liveth, which moveth, whithersoever the rivers shall come, shall live: and there shall be a very great multitude of fish, because these waters shall come thither: for they shall be healed; and every thing shall live whither the river cometh. (Ezekiel 4:9)

In the Masoretic text, the dual number is used there, so we need to clarify that two separate streams must enter the Dead Sea. Given the fact that the Temple will be built near the Nahal Hever and Nahal Arugot watershed, we can guess that one stream will flow into the Dead Sea near Ein Gedi (Nahal Arugoth), and the second stream will flow into the Dead Sea near Ein Eglaim, the location which modern Hebraists do not know anything.

But since we know that this second creek is the stream of Nahal Hever, we determine the place where it enters the Dead Sea exactly.

Here we need a little understanding of toponymy. The name "Ein Gedi" is translated from Hebrew as "The Source of the Goatling (Kid)". The name "Ein Eglaim" is translated from Hebrew as "The Source of Two Heifer". We can see satellite images in Google, it is seen that before the confluence of the Dead Sea Nahal Heaver stream splits into two streams.

Thus, consistently moving forward to the 47th chapter of Ezekiel, we received as a bonus the identification of the previously unknown biblical place with the mouth of the Nahal Hever stream.

Comparing this our geographical discovery with the plan of the holy allotment, we see: the bend of the coast of the Dead Sea between Ein Gedi and Ein Eglaim is inside the holy allotment. Fishermen, about whom it is written in the prophecy of Ezekiel, will fish in the territory of the holy allotment.

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And it shall come to pass, that the fishers shall stand upon it from Engedi even unto Eneglaim; they shall be a place to spread forth nets; their fish shall be according to their kinds, as the fish of the great sea, exceeding many. (Ezekiel 47:10)

Thus, we were able to make sure that the whole picture of the geographical details of modern Israel coincides with the prophesy of Ezekiel to the smallest detail.

I've always seen the river in some sort of Spiritual context rather than being an actual river

Fruit trees of all kinds will grow on both banks of the river. Their leaves will not wither, nor will their fruit fail. Every month they will bear fruit, because the water from the sanctuary flows to them. Their fruit will serve for food and their leaves for healing.”

How many trees grow fruit every month and bring healing? That's got to be a spiritual analogy in my book

I'm also curious why the measure of the river was done and a test of how deep it is - this again seems more like a spiritual concept? Some people just tip their toes in the "river" some go deeper. A similar illustration is found in Revelation

Revelation 22
Then the angel showed me a river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb, down the middle of the main street of the city. On either side of the river stood a tree of life, producing twelve kinds of fruit and yielding a fresh crop for each month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nation
 
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Do you really think that along the creeks Nahal Hever and Nahal Arugot in the Judean desert are already growing fruit trees, and in the bend of the Dead Sea between Ein Gedi and Ein Eglaim today, someone is fishing?

And it shall come to pass, that the fishers shall stand upon it from Engedi even unto Eneglaim; they shall be a place to spread forth nets; their fish shall be according to their kinds, as the fish of the great sea, exceeding many.
(Ezekiel 47:10)


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I assure you, there is a desert, and the Dead Sea is dead.
Being a first born male, yes, i know the Trees quite well.

The Terrain of the Torah is not so easily traversed without the Ruach of Life.
Since you have mentioned such a sacred place as yecheskel is describing.
Do you know who was given this place as an inheritance.
 
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