My girlfriend is Jewish, and i'm Christian

Today at 06:41 PM JacqueB said this in Post #57

I'm a bit confused! Are you saying that if you found the one person who loved you unconditionally and you loved them back. They support you and promise to support your faith. The only "issue" is that they are Jewish (or even worse *GASP* Pagan) you would pass up on this wonderful experiance?

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Yes. I would pass on it. I would have to place my trust in God to provide before I commit a sin and do something that would be wrong. I think that to do so is showing a lack of trust int he providence of God.

I would not give up my love and all the things he has taught me over something such as his religion and faith choices.

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And I would encourage you to trust God more than your feelings.

Well if the relationship is started before one finds Christ, then do you just stop 7 years of love and say "Sorry I was saved, you weren't so I'm leaving you."????? Because I can NOT say that to the man I love.

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Unless I’m mistaken, you are not married, and so it is not permanent or set in stone as you describe it as. Remember what I said about sand castles and rejection of the most important part of who you are, as well as eternal separation.

While my faith (I do not like to call it religion) is important to me, I think that Love is Love.

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So like I said, it would appear you’re more concerned with your relationship with him than your relationship with God, and so you’re willing to compromise. You don’t trust God enough to send you along someone better than the fellow you’re seeing now (Christian version), or aren’t patient enough to simply be friends and wait and see what God does in this young man’s life. The problem with trying to save him while in an affectionate relationship is that even if he did say he came to Christ, there lies the strong possibility that he never truly did, but only did so because of you – not because he really accepted Christ.

I take my faith very seriously; but I also take my relationships and life seriously. My life while it includes faith, includes many other things. I have seen many sides of the spectrum and been through a lot of things that have led me to my beliefs.

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It sounds like Christ is not your top priority. If He were, you would be looking for someone who you could grow closer to Him with, and that doesn’t appear to be the case in this situation. The fact that you live with your boyfriend further suggests that it's most definitely not a Christ-centered relationship.

Just because he doesn't accept christ[sic] does that make him a bad person and unable to Love?? I'm sorry, I refuse to believe any of that

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Good, because no one is saying that. Emotion and Spirituality are two completely different things. No one said that this fellow is a morally bad person who’s unable to love. What I think is being said, though, is that being in such a relationship can only hinder your relationship with Christ (kinda hard to grow closer to Christ with someone who doesn’t believe in/accept Him). We must remember that it is easier for someone to pull you down than for you to lift them up. This is especially true in the arena of affection, where compromise is much more probable, but this is something we must never do: Compromise our relationship with God instead of seeking to make it the very best relationship possible.

Hey, JacqueB.

If the two are married and one gets saved, Paul lines up specific instructions. If the two are dating and one gets saved, then Paul still lines up instructions - don't be unequally yoked.

If you are willing to compromise your faith for "life," then I would strongly suggest that you re-examine your priorities. CHrist calls us to surrender everything - including relationships - to follow Him.

And if doesn't accept Christ, this places him at emnity with God. If you are a Christian, you are a pure, spotless child of God. He is living in darkness and is literally as bad as he can possibly be in the sight of God. Your refusal to believe this is an indication of your unwillingness to deal honestly with God's word and God's Truths.

I'm sorry that sounds mean, but it is true.

Good call, Jedi. Very well said.

JacqueB,

You go girl. Aint no one gonna tell you nothin bout yo man... no way, nuh uh girlfriend.

I thank you for your opinions but would like to share with you that the only person (unless I am mistaken and I very well may be) that can condemn  me and my actions is God himself.

No, I am not married. I Live with my boyfriend. We plan on marrying one day and are very much in love. He does not have a faith, but is searching. That's not to say he will be saved, and not saying he won't.

But in my opinion (which obviously is NOT yours) I am not wavering in my faith and my relationship is NOT in the way. However the moment that it is I will seriously rethink it.

I'm a bit confused! Are you saying that if you found the one person who loved you unconditionally and you loved them back. They support you and promise to support your faith. The only "issue" is that they are Jewish (or even worse *GASP* Pagan) you would pass up on this wonderful experiance?

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If I had met my husband whilst I was a Christian I would definately pass up on our relationship. For the following reasons - I would be doing him a favour (he'd be free to find someone who agrees with his faith) and I'd be doing myself a favour (I'd be free to find someone who'd support my growth in Christ). Do I love my husband with all my heart? Emphatically yes but I love God more. My faith in Christ is too important to me. I've gone from not realising God exists to discovering a wonderful Saviour, I can't help but be 110% committed to pleasing Him in all that I do, even in day-to-day living like being submissive to my unbelieving husband (1 Peter 3:1-6).

Well if the relationship is started before one finds Christ, then do you just stop 7 years of love and say "Sorry I was saved, you weren't so I'm leaving you."?????

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Emphatically 'no' and nor would anyone expect you to if you were saved whilst already in a marriage to a non-believer. It is for this reason why we have 1 Cor 7:12-16. This was the situation I was in. Both my husband and I were unsaved when we got married, then during the marriage I got saved.

Jacque, there is no doubt that both my husband and I love each other dearly - he knows that I would do anything for him and he would do anything for me. But, we both realise that we would have been better off if there was just one faith in the household. If I converted to Islam, then he'd have a wife who could Islamically raise his child, he'd have a 'second in command' to study the Quran with, he could completely be submerged in his religion. We'd be able to share his religion together. He hasn't got that now and I know it breaks his heart sometimes. He can see the same in me - if it were the case that he got saved and we both were Christians, my happiness would be complete. I'd have someone who would love me to the degree that Christ loved the church.

It's not about 'bad non believers' just because they don't accept Christ, one has to be selfless in entering a relationship and be considerate of being able to be there for your partner completely .


Which brings me to another point, being a former atheist I realise that for some, being unevenly yoked swings both ways. If you know that you're commanded to raise your children to know Christ, to be like a lantern to others (Matt 5:14-16) and to diligently study the Word (2 Tim 2:15 & Ps 119:15), is it fair to impose that on someone who does not agree or even believe in it, just for the sake of the 'love' as we understand it?

I'm not a Bible basher, I don't ram my faith down my husband's throat and yet by observing me every day he realises that he's married to a Christian and not a Muslim. There is a very high chance that our daughter, on seeing my example will be saved and all this by how I serve Christ, not necessarily by what I say. Now, is that fair on him?

Sorry I've rambled on quite a bit and I didn't mean to but can you see how much deeper this topic is than just plain 'human' (as opposed to Christ-like)love? That's why marriage is an institution not to be entered into lightly

God bless

 

Re: My previous post.

I hadn't realised that there was a 7th page to the thread and so I've noticed that I've repeated pretty much what Scott and Jedi have already said. My Bad!

I thank you for your opinions but would like to share with you that the only person (unless I am mistaken and I very well may be) that can condemn me and my actions is God himself.

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Of course, and if I've come across as condemning, then I apologize. However, I don't think that's been the case thus far. Being firm is not quite the same as being condemning. There is a difference between judging someone & reaching out to someone: Reaching out to someone is when you look down on that person with the sole intention of helping them up (when we judge someone, that's not the case). Nathan confronted David when he was pursuing relationships with women (Bathsheba) at the expense of his relationship with God, and so I don't see any wrong with my doing the same, ya know?

No, I am not married. I Live with my boyfriend. We plan on marrying one day and are very much in love. He does not have a faith, but is searching. That's not to say he will be saved, and not saying he won't.

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That still doesn't answer why you're living with him, though, precious. If you are so deeply in love with each other, then you must also recall that true love waits. I find it curious as to why that's not the case in your situation. Remember what I also said about trying to lead someone to Christ while in an affectionate relationship: It's highly possible that the significant other will "accept Christ" not because he really found God, but because of you. In this sense, you will have become his God, since his entire faith rests upon you.

But in my opinion (which obviously is NOT yours) I am not wavering in my faith and my relationship is NOT in the way. However the moment that it is I will seriously rethink it.

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Emotions can cloud the mind, and the mind can justify nearly anything. Where the heart is, the mind will follow and try its best to defend. As it ends up, I'm not in your current situation, and so I can speak objectively. Read over some of the things I've said about your current situation, and it becomes very apparent that this relationship isn't symbiotic to your relationship to Christ.

If I had feelings for someone who does not have Christ, I would put aside my desire to share affections with her & help her meet the person she needs most to be in love with: Christ. Only after this would I rev up the engines and after burners and pursue affectionate companionship with such a person.

I hope, JacquesB, that you are remaining pure in your relationship. Sex before marriage is a sin. There are many things about your life with your boyfriend that seem to go against God's teachings. If your relationship is causing you to forceably sin, then cut it out, as CHrist commanded.

Please don't think this is condemnation. I'm not condemning you. I am, however, rebuking you as a CHristian brother.

Well now, look what has happen since the last time I looked. We have a lively discussion going on here. Underground has hid under the bunkers and has not returned and Goodnewsnic is getting all kinds of grief for such unbiblical views as well he should.

It is such a shame really. But not surprising. Unequally yoked relationships is the biggest danger there is to biblical Christianty. When we compromise there, everything, I mean everything else is just a matter of time before Christians loose their "saltiness."

Now I have a question for you who are in unequally yoked realtionships.

Why do you think the Lord God "commanded" the Israelites in the Old Testament not to marry foreigners who were outside of Israel, hmmmm? Do you think there was a reason for it? Was God just being mean or was there a purpose for it to their benefit? What do you think?

lotus petal,

thanks for the open honesty... it is very insightful.

I am sorry if I seem arrogant.

I was living with my boyfriend prior to "being saved" and although I understand that God and the bible say it is a sin, I am prepared to deal with that and have been talking with God about it.

I was not trying to ask if my situation was ok when I originally began posting here. I was merely commenting on the original post in which someone asked if what the opinion was on his girlfriend who is jewish and him (a christian) dating. I was merely saying that it's tough to work out, and not generally for the best, but that it is working for me, with a LOT of extra effort.

I understand why everyone disagrees with my standpoint, I'm just encouraging people to use their own minds and decide with God what is right for them.

"I understand that God and the BIble say it is a sin, but I am prepared to deal with that and have been talking to God about it."

If you are a new Christian, let me let you in on a little secret. God hates sin. God despises sin. Everytime we sin it is like we are re-crucifying Jesus Christ. Bargaining with God by trying to explain away sin is not what CHristians are called to do. We are called to live holy lives - holy means "set apart."

And I know you were not asking about your situation, but you need to know that what you are doing is deeply offensive to the God who you serve. "For if a person goes on sinning after coming to knowledge of Christ, no sacrifice for sins is left" - Hebrews 10:26. There is NO bargaining around with God's Word.

You say that people should use their own minds and decide with God what is right for them. You're encouraging moral relativism - what is right for one person may not be right for another. This is, quite simply, a lie. You yourself agree that the Bible and God say it is a sin, but you explain it away because of the inconvenience of having to leave a boyfriend. Do you not think that if this is the man you will spend the rest of your life with that he would understand your following the Code that you claim to live your life by?

I'm sorry if it sounds like I am picking on you, but as a Christian, you are now a new creatoin. It is time to act like one - and that means re-examining what is happening with your boyfriend. Christians are called to be different for a reason - and it is not always easy, believe me. But it is SO worth it, not only for yourself but with your relatioinship with God.

Question: Are you willing to bet that the man you are with is the best that God has for you? Are you willing to cut God short, when he may have an even better Christian out there for you? Because by settling for a non-Christian you are missing out on all the many blessings that God wants to give you - the TRUE love that can only be found with a Christian brother, a family that can go to church, have Bible study, and pray together, and a life that is an example for all believers (I Timothy 4:12). That is the life that you could have - something you will not have with your current beau.

Scorr Emerson Wrote::
"Marriage is a holy union. Don't corrupt it by marrying outside your faith.
"*smirk*

sounds a lot like "Marriage is a holy union. Don't corrupt it by marrying outside your race.", which makes me reach for a gun....

Emerson;

Please read my post just previous to yours! It explains a little bit

I did JacqueB - that is why I wrote what I wrote. REad it again. Ponder the questions that I ask.

What is wrong is wrong. What is right is right. With God there is no gray.

Question: Are you willing to bet that the man you are with is the best that God has for you? Are you willing to cut God short, when he may have an even better Christian out there for you? Because by settling for a non-Christian you are missing out on all the many blessings that God wants to give you - the TRUE love that can only be found with a Christian brother, a family that can go to church, have Bible study, and pray together, and a life that is an example for all believers (I Timothy 4:12). That is the life that you could have - something you will not have with your current beau.

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Looking into my past, this man has supported me in everything I have done and we have a lot more between us than many married couples that I know.

I am sorry that you all do not agree with my views, and i understand that. But all of the verses in the world are not going to change me. I am sorry for those I am offending.

This is my choice and if God sees something wrong with that, that is for me to deal with. I know that God doesn't like sin or sex before marriage. But I also know that God would rather have that one person come back to him, and ask for forgiveness then be gone forever.

You are right. It is between you and God. But, I think that you need to take that fact more seriously. Do you realize how much more important eternity is than your boyfriend?

I do realize that, and who's to say that God will not forgive me of this supposed "sin"???