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While I am a Baptist, the church I attend isn't Baptist per se. It might've been once, but it's more non-denominational than anything. I do believe they are a God-fearing church and are scripturally sound amid a few minor disagreements I have with them. However, there is one major issue that is impossible for me to ignore any longer.

In all my two years of going there, not once have I seen them perform a baptism (in church or elsewhere). I've been told they have done baptisms before and I've heard them announce baptism "classes", but other than that, I've never seen it done. When I inquired about it from a fellow church member and what I overheard the pastor say to someone, the answer I get as to why baptisms are so rare there is, paraphrasing, that they absolutely, positively, without a doubt want to make sure that the person has given his/her heart over to Christ before they go through with it.

This makes sense to a degree, but not one person in two years? If they had done any during that time frame, I certainly wasn't aware. On top of that, there is nowhere in the building to do a baptism anyways.

What comes to mind is the story of Philip the Evangelist baptizing the Ethiopian eunuch the same day that he met him. He didn't get to know the eunuch personally or hang out with him over the course of dozens of Sunday services to see if his heart was in the right place. The eunuch made a confession and was baptized accordingly.

While I have overlooked this issue for a while, it still makes me uncomfortable. I am seeking any advice on how I should approach this. Should I confront my pastor, and if so, what should I say? Or perhaps it isn't a hill to die on?
 

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While I am a Baptist, the church I attend isn't Baptist per se. It might've been once, but it's more non-denominational than anything. I do believe they are a God-fearing church and are scripturally sound amid a few minor disagreements I have with them. However, there is one major issue that is impossible for me to ignore any longer.

In all my two years of going there, not once have I seen them perform a baptism (in church or elsewhere). I've been told they have done baptisms before and I've heard them announce baptism "classes", but other than that, I've never seen it done. When I inquired about it from a fellow church member and what I overheard the pastor say to someone, the answer I get as to why baptisms are so rare there is, paraphrasing, that they absolutely, positively, without a doubt want to make sure that the person has given his/her heart over to Christ before they go through with it.

This makes sense to a degree, but not one person in two years? If they had done any during that time frame, I certainly wasn't aware. On top of that, there is nowhere in the building to do a baptism anyways.

What comes to mind is the story of Philip the Evangelist baptizing the Ethiopian eunuch the same day that he met him. He didn't get to know the eunuch personally or hang out with him over the course of dozens of Sunday services to see if his heart was in the right place. The eunuch made a confession and was baptized accordingly.

While I have overlooked this issue for a while, it still makes me uncomfortable. I am seeking any advice on how I should approach this. Should I confront my pastor, and if so, what should I say? Or perhaps it isn't a hill to die on?

Just ask to do a quick meeting with the pastor, and share your concern. Mention that you've noticed that there haven't been any baptisms lately and hear out the pastor's reasoning.See if it will change anything.
 
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On top of that, there is nowhere in the building to do a baptism anyways.
That's really odd, but maybe is part of the picture. Do they, perhaps, use another church's facilities for baptisms, or a nearby lake, or something else that isn't in the building, and that's why baptisms aren't easily visible?

I agree with Mskriskris: Have a talk with the pastor about it.
 
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That's really odd, but maybe is part of the picture. Do they, perhaps, use another church's facilities for baptisms, or a nearby lake, or something else that isn't in the building, and that's why baptisms aren't easily visible?

I agree with Mskriskris: Have a talk with the pastor about it.

I would also add that maybe you can help, if the pastor shows interest, to help to provide the means for it. Maybe it will be a fundraising thing that the church can collect for, or maybe they will have to use an inflatable pool, or find another facility to do it. Always good though to be proactive to see change.
 
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That's really odd, but maybe is part of the picture. Do they, perhaps, use another church's facilities for baptisms, or a nearby lake, or something else that isn't in the building, and that's why baptisms aren't easily visible?

I agree with Mskriskris: Have a talk with the pastor about it.
The pastor and his family are former missionaries so I'd think that baptism was done out in the boonies or wherever if they did them. There are plenty of bodies of water in Alaska up here but they've never mentioned anything regarding them.
 
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The pastor and his family are former missionaries so I'd think that baptism was done out in the boonies or wherever if they did them. There are plenty of bodies of water in Alaska up here but they've never mentioned anything regarding them.
Do the natural water sources in AK ever get warm enough?
 
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The area where I live is the place where churches go to die. The idea of not having a single baptism in two years does not strike me as unusual, unfortunately. The first step I would have taken, had I been in your place, is to assess whether there had been any converts that had not been baptized. These would be people that I knew personally, that I knew had come to accept Christ.

The people that God brings into my life, my circle of contacts, are my first priority. Having a vague notion that there may be unbaptized converts somewhere in the congregation would not be enough. The problem, for all I know, may be a lack of converts, rather than a lack of baptisms. An individual situation, such as a specific person that you know accepted Christ, would be not only a confirmation of your suspicion, but also a direct object to base your concerns as you describe it to the pastor, or whomever else you might address.
 
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I don't know if this matters much or not, but I was taught in seminary classes, "Southern Baptist Heritage", that if a church is only performing around 10% baptisms, that equates to only the amount of people being born.

In other words, your baptizing the "birth rate" of your church.

God Bless

Till all are one.
 
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