Trump's Project of Dehumanization

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Trump's Project of Dehumanization
It’s never right to call other human beings “animals.” It’s not something we should even have to debate. No matter how debased the behavior of a given individual or group, no matter how much legitimate anger genuinely evil actions might inspire, dehumanizing others always leads us down a dangerous path.

This is why we need to reflect on the controversy over exactly whom President Trump was referring to as “animals” during a roundtable discussion last week at the White House with state and local officials from California on so-called sanctuary laws.

On its face — and this is certainly how Trump wants us to view things — this is an argument about whether the media distorted his intent by reporting what he said out of context.


But Trump is responsible for this problem precisely because he systematically obliterates any distinctions between the overwhelming majority of immigrants who are law-abiding and the violent minority among the foreign-born.
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Humans are human no matter what they do, they will still be human knowing there actions where wrong in the end.

This is why we all fell guilt, we might not say it or show it, but we all fell guilt as humans God created us with guilt.
 
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Liberals dehumanize Racists all the time. I dislike racists also but I not going to be a hypocrite like they are.
I suppose it took Trump saying some mean words to gang members to make the left come to its collective senses.
 
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Liberals dehumanize Racists all the time. I dislike racists also but I not going to be a hypocrite like they are.
I have to say: this is quite possibly one of my most favorite posts ever! :oldthumbsup:
tulc(no, seriously it's a delight!) :clap:
 
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It’s never right to call other human beings “animals.” It’s not something we should even have to debate.

That sounds like an opinion. We don't have to debate it, we can simply agree to disagree. But go ahead, keep on defending MS-13. See where it gets you. Anybody who wonders why people don't trust the press, you're seeing the reason here.
 
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Itu cud be war next month if his meeting fails.
Where did you come up with this bizarre notion? Are you really believing all the nonsense being broadcast by the Left-wing media since they simply cannot face the reality that Trump is doing an OUTSTANDING JOB, when they all claimed that he was *unqualified*?
 
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That sounds like an opinion. We don't have to debate it, we can simply agree to disagree. But go ahead, keep on defending MS-13. See where it gets you. Anybody who wonders why people don't trust the press, you're seeing the reason here.
What should now happen is the the most violent gangsters from MS-13 should be asked to go and pay the heads of the media networks a visit. A violent personal encounter with one of these savages would be very educational for those who are actually defending them.
 
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That sounds like an opinion. We don't have to debate it, we can simply agree to disagree.
Ok.

But go ahead, keep on defending MS-13.
...are you debating someone opinion here or are you expressing one? :scratch:

See where it gets you.
Didn't really need your permission, but I appreciate you giving it any way. :oldthumbsup:

Anybody who wonders why people don't trust the press, you're seeing the reason here.
I don't wonder about that at all, if someone wants to support President Trump it's a lot easier to simply dismiss anything that disagree's with him then to try and find some way to refute the facts. :wave:
tulc(President Trump is himself famous for doing that) ;)
 
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We are talking about Trump here though, tulc. It's not as if we can expect anything better or even anything remotely decent from him. Honestly, I think his words and how he treats other people speaks volumes of the kind of person he is. I base my opinion on a scripture I'm reminded of each time I hear him degrade and disparage yet another person. It is the "For out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks" verse (Luke 6:45). Based on Matthew 15:18-20, I think it is very obvious what is in his heart from how he speaks and how he behaves. It just comes flowing out of his mouth.

And before any of his most devout evangelical Christian supporters start screaming foul of how we shouldn't judge Trump, need I remind them that their sudden indignation of judging the president for his behavior while in the White House was ironically missing when Bill Clinton was the president and when Barack Obama was the president too. However, I'm rather confident that the moral indignation of the Religious Right concerning the immoral behavior of the President of the United States will swiftly return in full force once Donald Trump is no longer the president. I think it will return even more quickly if the next president happens to be a liberal Democrat and not another Republican.

I think it is ironic how there was such a severe lack of moral indignation about judging the president for his immorality and for his sexual scandals when Bill Clinton was still the president. And I don't recall one single instance when a conservative Christian ever chided me for judging Barack Obama when he was still the president either. In fact, I have never known one conservative evangelical Christian who ever overlooked and dismissed the sexual depravity and sexual scandals of Bill Clinton.

There's such a fierce outcry from Trump's evangelical Christian supporters not to judge him. Where was this determination not to judge the President of the United States for his immoral sexual behavior and adultery when Bill Clinton was still the president? I honestly think Donald Trump could rival him on his sexual deviant behavior and adulterous philandering. It would be a very close race.
 
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Not animals, but vile people. Worse than Nazis.

Based on a rational examination of the well documented historical facts on all the deaths caused by the Nazis during the Holocaust, the claim "worse than Nazis" doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Source: Documenting Numbers of Victims of the Holocaust and Nazi Persecution

Jews: up to 6 million

Soviet civilians: around 7 million (including 1.3 Soviet Jewish civilians, who are included in the 6 million figure for Jews)

Soviet prisoners of war: around 3 million (including about 50,000 Jewish soldiers)

Non-Jewish Polish civilians: around 1.8 million (including between 50,000 and 100,000 members of the Polish elites)

Serb civilians (on the territory of Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina): 312,000

People with disabilities living in institutions: up to 250,000

Roma (Gypsies): 196,000–220,000

Jehovah's Witnesses: around 1,900

Repeat criminal offenders and so-called asocials: at least 70,000

German political opponents and resistance activists in Axis-occupied territory: undetermined

Homosexuals: hundreds, possibly thousands (possibly also counted in part under the 70,000 repeat criminal offenders and so-called asocials noted above)

Another Source: Shocking' Holocaust Study Claims Nazis Killed Up To 20 Million People

Excerpt from the article: The Nazi Holocaust may have claimed up to 20 million lives, a figure far greater than previous estimates, new research has revealed... The new figures of 15 to 20 million, which have astonished some Holocaust historians, come after thirteen years of painstaking study at Washington's Holocaust Memorial Museum . Historians at the museum brought together and studied the huge amount, and often disparate, files and research on the Holocaust.
 
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Based on a rational examination of the well documented historical facts on all the deaths caused by the Nazis during the Holocaust, the claim "worse than Nazis" doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Source: Documenting Numbers of Victims of the Holocaust and Nazi Persecution

Jews: up to 6 million

Soviet civilians: around 7 million (including 1.3 Soviet Jewish civilians, who are included in the 6 million figure for Jews)

Soviet prisoners of war: around 3 million (including about 50,000 Jewish soldiers)

Non-Jewish Polish civilians: around 1.8 million (including between 50,000 and 100,000 members of the Polish elites)

Serb civilians (on the territory of Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina): 312,000

People with disabilities living in institutions: up to 250,000

Roma (Gypsies): 196,000–220,000

Jehovah's Witnesses: around 1,900

Repeat criminal offenders and so-called asocials: at least 70,000

German political opponents and resistance activists in Axis-occupied territory: undetermined

Homosexuals: hundreds, possibly thousands (possibly also counted in part under the 70,000 repeat criminal offenders and so-called asocials noted above)

Another Source: Shocking' Holocaust Study Claims Nazis Killed Up To 20 Million People

Excerpt from the article: The Nazi Holocaust may have claimed up to 20 million lives, a figure far greater than previous estimates, new research has revealed... The new figures of 15 to 20 million, which have astonished some Holocaust historians, come after thirteen years of painstaking study at Washington's Holocaust Memorial Museum . Historians at the museum brought together and studied the huge amount, and often disparate, files and research on the Holocaust.
Numbers have nothing to do with the character of the people described, which is what Trump was referring to when he called them "animals." Specifically, we're talking about MS-13. You have to kill to get in, and you might not even get in then. Nazis, while murderous and savage, were a bigger tent than that; there were Nazis who never did any violence directly to people. MS-13 is clearly worse than they were, and on par with many of those that did violence.
 
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Calling these gang members 'animals' is a slur on animals.
Predatory animals may be brutal, but they are not evil.
These gang members choose to do evil and are a stain on
humanity that needs to be wiped out.
Ahhh! Like this "MS-13 animal"?
An Oceanside minister supported Trump. Now, he's getting deported
or this "bad hombre"?
Michigan father deported after living in US for 30 years
or these 1500 "drug dealer, criminals and rapists" they lost track of?
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/1475-immigrant-children-missing/
tulc(hopes everyone rests better tonight knowing President Trump is on the job, keeping America safe from those missing kids) :wave:
 
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