There Is Only One Trump Scandal

Root of Jesse said:

And if he does, he's a crook, right?

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If he is President, yes. Glad you are beginning to understand.

Albion said:

You're right. Compared to Obama, Trump is a saint when I comes to this stuff (and we all know that the usual crowd never cared about Barry being 'on the take').

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And when is the Republican DOJ and Congress going to do something about it?

Root of Jesse said:

So...when any president hosts a state dinner, neither are the food and service donated. When any president goes on vacation, usually the property can trumpet that the president stayed there, which serves as promotion.

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Donald stays only at his own properties, so he is favoring one business over all others for personal gain.

The fact is, everything costs money. The president, or a foreign dignitary, or whatever. It costs about the same. Security, room and board, logistics, travel. I don't believe President Trump stays in anything more luxurious than President Obama, or any other president. Most good hotels have a 'presidential suite', after all, which costs $$$. Secret Service also costs money, regardless of where the President is. And just as you would pay for an ambulance or a rescue, and just as you pay for public education, everything in government has a price tag. You think food at the White House is any less expensive than food at Mar-a-Lago?

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The White House has chefs and servers on staff, so hosting a function at a Donald property is an additional expense, so yes, it is less expensive and there is no markup to cover private club expenses.

I don't see anything different, other than his family owns the property.

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Not his family, him. Donald Trump owns Mar-a-lago. The White House has staff on salary to host meals and functions, but Donald gets no profit from that. Most presidents didn't get a direct profit from where they stayed.

Albion said:

You're right. Compared to Obama, Trump is a saint when I comes to this stuff (and we all know that the usual crowd never cared about Barry being 'on the take').

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In Bizarro World. I have never heard that President Obama was 'on the take', so would you please explain what in tarnation you're referring to specifically?

DaisyDay said:

Donald stays only at his own properties, so he is favoring one business over all others for personal gain.

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IS it for personal gain?

And if so, why would this president then give away his government salary when he is supposedly also squeezing out all that he can from a hotel stay?

For "personal gain," as you said? Hmmmm.

Albion said:

IS it for personal gain?

And if so, why would this president then give away his government salary when he is supposedly also squeezing out all that he can from a hotel stay?

For "personal gain," as you said? Hmmmm.

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The hotel goes on his expense account, not his salary

Speedwell said:

The hotel goes on his expense account, not his salary

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You do realize that Mar Lago is his home. The expense is for his team.

Albion said:

IS it for personal gain?

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It has that appearance, but, of course, it's possible that no other place in America is as suitable for the magnificence that is Donald.

And if so, why would this president then give away his government salary when he is supposedly also squeezing out all that he can from a hotel stay?

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PR. He doesn't have to squeeze when he's doubled the already steep price of admission.

For "personal gain," as you said? Hmmmm.

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That's what he's all about. And vanity - about equal parts money and vanity.

hislegacy said:

You do realize that Mar Lago is his home. The expense is for his team.

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No matter where he was on vacation, the expense would be for his team; personal expenses are his personal responsibility. However, the expense of his team translates as profit for Donald when they stay at Mar-a-lago.

Albion said:

IS it for personal gain?

And if so, why would this president then give away his government salary when he is supposedly also squeezing out all that he can from a hotel stay?

For "personal gain," as you said? Hmmmm.

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Because the less sophisticated follows won’t figure out he’s more than making up for it by skimming the taxpayers.

FreeinChrist said:

It is good for the media image. It is for the show.

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But he can afford it--and, not surprisingly--this did not get much press coverage. Therefore, to argue that he would then chisel on a hotel room is silly.

This kind of "looking for anything" that might be made into some sort of mini-outrage is precisely why the president's popularity is rising and people who had supported him are not being pried away from him by the opposition.

If the Democrats were more reasonable, some of that might have happened, but they cannot bring themselves to do it.

DaisyDay said:

It has that appearance,

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To whom?

Albion said:

For "personal gain," as you said? Hmmmm.

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These are all signs of desperation from the Left-Liberals. Trump is the last person who ran for President for "personal gain". He gives away his salary regularly, but the MSM and the Democrats have failed to commend him for his selflessness and generosity.

Hillary on the other hand garnered millions for personal gain, as well as for pay-to-play, but not a word about her evil deeds. Everyone ignored "Clinton Cash" when that should have been the focus of the gullible leftists.

Clinton Cash: The Untold Story of How and Why Foreign Governments and Businesses Helped Make Bill and Hillary Rich

It's available at Amazon for those who want to see who used their positions for personal gain.

Albion said:

To whom?

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People with eyes and ethics.

Micah888 said:

These are all signs of desperation from the Left-Liberals. Trump is the last person who ran for President for "personal gain". He gives away his salary regularly, but the MSM and the Democrats have failed to commend him for his selflessness and generosity.

Hillary on the other hand garnered millions for personal gain, as well as for pay-to-play, but not a word about her evil deeds. Everyone ignored "Clinton Cash" when that should have been the focus of the gullible leftists.

Clinton Cash: The Untold Story of How and Why Foreign Governments and Businesses Helped Make Bill and Hillary Rich

It's available at Amazon for those who want to see who used their positions for personal gain.

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But Hillary!! Hey guys, I have an idea - let's derail the thread!

Yet again.

DaisyDay said:

People with eyes and ethics.

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Yes, but it doesn't have that appearance to people with ears and morals.

So, the proposal fails for want of any evidence that relates to real people.

DaisyDay said:

But Hillary!! Hey guys, I have an idea - let's derail the thread!

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Yes, derail it by all means. The title of the thread should have been "There is NO Trump Scandal. The Scandal is with Hillary and Obama".

If Trump is completely innocent of using our highest office for personal gain, why do his supporters have to try to distract from it by sputtering "B-b-b-but Hillary! Clinton Foundation! Benghazi! Vince Foster!" ?

Same question as the one I pose about the Trump Russia investigation. If he's innocent, the truth will out. Donny's supporters aren't even trying to say he's innocent anymore; they're either falling back on lying about Hillary or saying "Well, corruption has always existed so it's no big deal" (notably, the same ones who voted in favor of a 'drain the swamp' ticket).
Ringo

Kentonio said:

You really don't see a difference between the government paying money to businesses for services, and the government paying that money instead to businesses owned by the head of the government?

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Well, he's doesn't own the businesses the government is paying money to. He may stand to benefit in the future. OTOH, when Clinton was in office (choose which one you want to focus on), whether President or Sec of State or Senator, they owned the Clinton Foundation(s), and profitted from the sale of their favors while in office. Quite a different thing.

cow451 said:

If he is President, yes. Glad you are beginning to understand.

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But the thing is, he's not a business man while he's the President. So...?