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... we have no reason why we could not build this Temple in the very near future.

This will solve the question of the borders of Israel:

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... we have no reason why we could not build this Temple in the very near future.

Very Near future?
You mean like in 2000 years?

We have no reason to expect it WILL be built at any time in the future.. near or far.
 
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Very Near future?
You mean like in 2000 years?

We have no reason to expect it WILL be built at any time in the future.. near or far.


THERE WILL BE TWO MORE TEMPLES BUILT IN JERUSALEM

The tribulation temple:

Matthew 24:15 - When you see the “abomination of desolation,” spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place…
2 Thessalonians 2:4 - "...so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God"
Revelation 11:1 - "...Go and measure the temple of God and the alter..."

The Millennial temple:

Ezekiel 43:7 - "...this is the place of my throne...This is where I will live among the Israelites forever."

Ezekiel 43:27 - …your priests will your burnt offerings and peace offerings on the altar, and I will accept you, declares the Lord.

Zechariah 6:12 - Here is the Man whose name is the Branch, and he will…build the temple of the Lord.
At the present time there is no temple on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, the location of both the first and second Jewish Temples. Instead, two Muslim shrines, The Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque, stand on the Temple Mount. Meantime, the Jewish people to consider the Temple Mount to be the most sacred place for Jews in all the world. No wonder the Temple Mount is a political powder keg and must be part of any formula for peace in the Middle East!

According to the Bible, a temple will once again stand on the Temple Mount. How and when the Temple Mount will be available for a future temple remains to be seen. Biblical prophecy “buffs” have proposed all kinds of potential scenarios for how all of this could take place—everything from earthquakes to explosives to the collapse of the Temple Mount platform!

Some well-meaning Christians have felt that the biblical predictions of a future Temple should be spiritualized, saying that these prophecies refer to the Church or to the individual Christian. Indeed, 1 Corinthians 3:16 makes it quite clear that the Church, as the body of Christ, is the spiritual temple of the Holy Spirit. And in 1 Corinthians 6:19 we are taught that the physical body of every individual believer is to be honored and kept clean, because it is the temple of the Holy Spirit. But these wonderful New Testament truths do not alter the biblical predictions of a literal future Temple in Jerusalem.

The question of a future Temple gets more complicated when we realize that the Bible teaches that two temples are yet to stand on the Temple Mount in the future. First will come a Tribulation Temple, followed by a Millennium Temple which will be built when the Lord returns and sets up His kingdom on this earth. Let's look at the Scriptures dealing with these two future temples.


Here: Israel's Third and Fourth Temples

Here: http://sonstoglory.com/ThirdTempleEzeki ... Temple.htm [No tribulation temple shown]


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Ezekiel 43:27 - …your priests will your burnt offerings and peace offerings on the altar, and I will accept you, declares the Lord.

Based on Hebrews 7:12, Christ has replaced the Levitical priesthood and has made a change in the Law.

Based on Hebrews 10:16-18, there will be no more sacrifices.

The New Covenant is "everlasting" in Hebrews 13:20.

One of the greatest errors of modern Dispensational Theology is the claim that God will go back to the Old Covenant system, during a future time.

Read Hebrews 12:18-24.
We are not come to the mountain that burns with fire. (Mount Sinai)
We are come to Mount Sion and the heavenly Jerusalem, of the New Covenant.


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Based on Hebrews 7:12, Christ has replaced the Levitical priesthood and has made a change in the Law.

Based on Hebrews 10:16-18, there will be no more sacrifices.

The New Covenant is "everlasting" in Hebrews 13:20.

One of the greatest errors of modern Dispensational Theology is the claim that God will go back to the Old Covenant system, during a future time.

Read Hebrews 12:18-24.
We are not come to the mountain that burns with fire. (Mount Sinai)
We are come to Mount Sion and the heavenly Jerusalem, of the New Covenant.


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The prophecy in Jer.31 about the coming New Covenant, was exclusively intended for Israel. So who is Israel? They are the very same Israel in the near east, as the Israel of the Bible.

When Jesus founded the New Covenant during His fist advent, Israel rejected it by rejecting Jesus as their Messiah. However, every one who believed in Jesus, whether Israelite [Jews] or Gentiles, it was the founding of His Church, which is the result of the New Covenant.

All members of the Church, all of whom are believers in Jesus Christ, is what the one body of Christ is, His Church, and has nothing wehatever to do with Israel.

Israel will not accept the tenets of the New Covenant, by accepting Jesus as their Messiah, until His second coming, recorded in Zech.12:10 and 14:4-5.

Record the above for ytour edification!


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The original prophecy of the coming New Covenant, was exclusively for Israel. So who is Israel?

I will let Peter answer your question on the Day of Pentecost.


Act 2:14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, raised his voice and said to them, "Men of Judea and all who dwell in Jerusalem, let this be known to you, and heed my words.


Act 2:22 "Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know—


Act 2:36 "Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ."


Act 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, "Men and brethren, what shall we do?"
Act 2:38 Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Act 2:39 For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call."
Act 2:40 And with many other words he testified and exhorted them, saying, "Be saved from this perverse generation."
Act 2:41 Then those who gladly received his word were baptized; and that day about three thousand souls were added to them.


You have been shown this passage several times before, but you keep trying to ignore it to make your Two Peoples of God doctrine work...

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So who is Israel

Seems to me you need to figure that out for yourself, as you are teaching the OPPOSITE of what Jesus and the Apostles taught regarding the Identity of Israel.

St. Paul said that when the nation was in mass apostasy, the TRUE NATIONAL Israel was carried on not through the lineages of the wicked sons but rather through the OBEDIENT FEW (called the "remnant"), such as was true in Isaiah's day (Romans 9:27-29) and Elijah's day (Romans 11:3-5).

St. Peter says the same thing at Acts 3:22-24, where it is clear that the wicked jews who refuse Christ were to be "cut off from among the People of Israel" while the faithful jews (John the Baptist, Joseph and Mary, the Twelve, the Seventy, the three thousand on Pentecost day, and many thousands of other jews) were the True Faithful Israel.

Just as the jewish church abode with Moses in the wilderness (Acts 7:37-38), so Jesus had HIS jewish church (Mt. 16:18-19). And within a few years after Pentecost, the faithful Israel learned how to start accepting both jewish and also gentile followers from all over the empire to convert into their Nation (1 Peter 2:9-10; Mt 21:40-45). And so the tiny remnant True Israel grew into a worldwide Judaism living under the promised NEW covenant of Israel's Messiah.

And so it was also in Moses' day, when the countless thousands of wicked sons of Abraham were slain in the wilderness while the faithful sons of Abraham survived and got to enter the Promised Land. We must NEVER count the continuation of Israel through the wicked sons but rather always through the faithful remnant!

You, in stark contrast to Paul (and Moses), Insist this very bizarre idea of who Israel is, as you count the disobedient sons of Abraham as Israel while discounting entirely the faithful sons of Abraham, claiming they are something else entirely. That those Obedient, Faithful Sons of Abraham, through their faith and obedience to the King of Israel, somehow stopped being Israel!

Your's is the real "Replacement Theology".
You have Replaced Faithful Obedient Israel with Wicked Disobedient Israel as Heirs to the promises!

You view is akin to claiming that National Israel NEVER ENTERED THE PROMISED LAND after wandering in the desert 40 years, since the majority of them were slain in the wilderness for their unbelief, and only the believing remnant (something you continually claim is NOT Israel) entered.

Such is Untenable to any Honest expositor of Scripture.
Again, The Prophets and Apostles teach the exact opposite of what you are claiming here Quasar.
I recommend you bring your view in line with scripture.
 
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I will let Peter answer your question on the Day of Pentecost.


Act 2:14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, raised his voice and said to them, "Men of Judea and all who dwell in Jerusalem, let this be known to you, and heed my words.


Act 2:22 "Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know—


Act 2:36 "Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ."


Act 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, "Men and brethren, what shall we do?"
Act 2:38 Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Act 2:39 For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call."
Act 2:40 And with many other words he testified and exhorted them, saying, "Be saved from this perverse generation."
Act 2:41 Then those who gladly received his word were baptized; and that day about three thousand souls were added to them.


You have been shown this passage several times before, but you keep trying to ignore it to make your Two Peoples of God doctrine work...

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Your ongoing repeated posting of the fulfillment of the New Covenant and the support for it - DOES NOT REVEAL ANYWHERE - iSRAEL HAS ACCEPTED IT! Open your eyes AND your mind to understanding that fact!

Your ongoing shouting will never prove otherwise. Nor are you ever going to prove the Church is Israel - which is a gross heresy!


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Seems to me you need to figure that out for yourself, as you are teaching the OPPOSITE of what Jesus and the Apostles taught regarding the Identity of Israel.

St. Paul said that when the nation was in mass apostasy, the TRUE NATIONAL Israel was carried on not through the lineages of the wicked sons but rather through the OBEDIENT FEW (called the "remnant"), such as was true in Isaiah's day (Romans 9:27-29) and Elijah's day (Romans 11:3-5).

St. Peter says the same thing at Acts 3:22-24, where it is clear that the wicked jews who refuse Christ were to be "cut off from among the People of Israel" while the faithful jews (John the Baptist, Joseph and Mary, the Twelve, the Seventy, the three thousand on Pentecost day, and many thousands of other jews) were the True Faithful Israel.

Just as the jewish church abode with Moses in the wilderness (Acts 7:37-38), so Jesus had HIS jewish church (Mt. 16:18-19). And within a few years after Pentecost, the faithful Israel learned how to start accepting both jewish and also gentile followers from all over the empire to convert into their Nation (1 Peter 2:9-10; Mt 21:40-45). And so the tiny remnant True Israel grew into a worldwide Judaism living under the promised NEW covenant of Israel's Messiah.

And so it was also in Moses' day, when the countless thousands of wicked sons of Abraham were slain in the wilderness while the faithful sons of Abraham survived and got to enter the Promised Land. We must NEVER count the continuation of Israel through the wicked sons but rather always through the faithful remnant!

You, in stark contrast to Paul (and Moses), Insist this very bizarre idea of who Israel is, as you count the disobedient sons of Abraham as Israel while discounting entirely the faithful sons of Abraham, claiming they are something else entirely. That those Obedient, Faithful Sons of Abraham, through their faith and obedience to the King of Israel, somehow stopped being Israel!

Your's is the real "Replacement Theology".
You have Replaced Faithful Obedient Israel with Wicked Disobedient Israel as Heirs to the promises!

You view is akin to claiming that National Israel NEVER ENTERED THE PROMISED LAND after wandering in the desert 40 years, since the majority of them were slain in the wilderness for their unbelief, and only the believing remnant (something you continually claim is NOT Israel) entered.

Such is Untenable to any Honest expositor of Scripture.
Again, The Prophets and Apostles teach the exact opposite of what you are claiming here Quasar.
I recommend you bring your view in line with scripture.


Show me anywhere in the Bible where Israel has ever received Jesus as their Messiah. Explain to me why God sent Israel into their diaspora for 1,878 years. Explain to me why Israel is going to go through the tribulation and the Church will not!

there are not two Israels! The one nation of Israel, in the middle east today, is thvery same Israel of the Bible!

And where, may I ask, did you obtain your qulifications to teach eschatology, or the Bible.

There will be two more temples built in Jerusalem, according to the Scriptures!


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Show me anywhere in the Bible where Israel has ever received Jesus as their Messiah. Explain to me why God sent Israel into their diaspora for 1,878 years. Explain to me why Israel is going to go through the tribulation and the Church will not!

there are not two Israels! The one nation of Israel, in the middle east today, is thvery same Israel of the Bible!

And where, may I ask, did you obtain your qulifications to teach eschatology, or the Bible.

There will be two more temples built in Jerusalem, according to the Scriptures!


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Ignore Peter addressing the crowd on the Day of Pentecost as "all the house of Israel" in Acts 2:36.

Then ignore the fact that about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on that day.

Then ask how those who oppose your Two Peoples of God doctrine can be qualified to teach eschatology.

Then restate the Dispensational claims...

You are promoting some form of "Dual Covenant" Theology by claiming that the Old Testament promises to a race of people, were not fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary.


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You have replaced the one seed, with the many seeds in Galatians 3:16.

You have replaced the children of the promise, with the children of the flesh in Romans 9:8.

If you think those running the modern State of Israel are the same Israel found in the Old Testament, you need to read the passage below.



1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.


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Show me anywhere in the Bible where Israel has ever received Jesus as their Messiah. Explain to me why God sent Israel into their diaspora for 1,878 years. Explain to me why Israel is going to go through the tribulation and the Church will not!

there are not two Israels! The one nation of Israel, in the middle east today, is thvery same Israel of the Bible!

And where, may I ask, did you obtain your qulifications to teach eschatology, or the Bible.

There will be two more temples built in Jerusalem, according to the Scriptures!


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Ethnic Israel as a distinguishable subset of humanity no longer exists.

The Abrahamic genome is now found in the entire human race. The Jewish religiocultural community itself recognizes, promotes, and applauds this scientific reality. The dispensational community never will, because it would immediately destroy the "two peoples" pseudodoctrine.

Jewishness is now distinguishable only by religion and culture.

Dispensationalism will never permit something as inconsequential as science to silence its claims.

But the science is incontrovertible. As is the Scripture, which cannot be broken (John 10:35).

Abraham lineage

DNA Tests Could Fulfill God’s Promise to Abraham by Revealing Millions of Jews. But How Jewish is Jewish Enough?

Israel in all of Us? Research finds 'Jewish genes' in unusual places

To dispensationalism's longstanding characteristics of unscriptural and unspiritual, add unscientific.

It is pseudodoctrine illegitimate and indefensible in every aspect.
 
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Ignore Peter addressing the crowd on the Day of Pentecost as "all the house of Israel" in Acts 2:36.

Then ignore the fact that about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on that day.

Then ask how those who oppose your Two Peoples of God doctrine can be qualified to teach eschatology.

Then restate the Dispensational claims...

You are promoting some form of "Dual Covenant" Theology by claiming that the Old Testament promises to a race of people, were not fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary.


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You have replaced the one seed, with the many seeds in Galatians 3:16.

You have replaced the children of the promise, with the children of the flesh in Romans 9:8.

If you think those running the modern State of Israel are the same Israel found in the Old Testament, you need to read the passage below.



1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.


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Once again, you've failed to answer questuibs in my posts that asks you, such as #111. Your attempt to make the Church, Israel, is a gross heresy, as I told you before. It has NO scriptural SUPPORT of any kind! Review the following from Let Us Reason:

IS THE CHURCH ISRAEL

We come now to something that is crucial and needs to be defined to understand the new covenant. Is the Church Israel? For if it is ,we are obligated to keep Sabbath day at least in a general sense. If the Church is not Israel then what sense would there be to keep the Sabbath. Scripturally we find the Church is not Israel the nation but a separate entity under an entirely new covenant. Israel is called the wife of Jehovah, while the Church is called the bride of Christ, showing distinctions in how God relates to each. The word Israel is always descriptive of the physical descendants of Abraham, Issac and Jacob. It was Jacob who’s name was changed to Israel and had 12 sons that became that nation.

Many transfer the promises and the covenants to Israel to the Church, but there is absolutely no reason to do this. The Church is not spiritual Israel. Look it up you’ll never find the term or concept in the Bible. There are only two verses that are used to validate this view, both are unsupported in their context.

Gal.3:29 says that those who belong to Christ are Abraham’s seed. The seed of Abraham does not mean one is Israel. It Means those who are justified by faith are spiritual descendants of Abraham but this does not make them descendants of Jacob who is Israel. They partake in the spiritual blessings that come through Israel. While there are two different groups of people who can be descendants of Abraham one of which is the Arabs, they do not share in the promises of Jacob. Only Israel is descended from the physical posterity of Jacob.

The other verse is Gal.6:16 where Paul is addressing both believing Jews and Gentiles in the church "As many as walk according to this rule (Gentile believers) and upon "the Israel of God." In its context this term means Jews who are believers, who believe salvation is by faith in Christ contrary to what the Judaizers were teaching that the law was needed also. Paul also addresses this in Rom.9:6-8 that there are two Israel's, one that consists of Jews and the elect, the true Israel which are the physical posterity and also have the faith of Abraham, they are the Israel of God mentioned in Gal.6. As Paul states, " for they are not all Israel who are of Israel." (Rom.9:6). There is also "Israel" after the flesh found in 1 Cor.10:18. The Church is never called spiritual Israel or is a new Israel replacing the old. Nor does it say believers become Jews. Both gentiles and Jews participate together in the New Covenant. as Eph 2 addresses the middle wall of partition being broken down and God makeing a new entity.

In the N.T we have three terms used alongside each other, Israel, Gentiles and the Church. The Church consists of both believing Gentiles and Jews while Israel as a nation is in unbelief as are the Gentiles. The Church and Israel are two distinct groups and God has a different program for each. Both are brought in make up the body of Christ. The name Israel is used 20 times and the church 19 times in the book of Acts, both are kept distinct While there is no difference in salvation for both, Gods plans are different for each. In the book of Acts Israel and the church exist alongside each other, nowhere is the church called the new or spiritual Israel.There are certain areas the differences of Jew and gentile are erased but in all areas.Such as we becoming one in Christ all the same way 1 Cor.12:13 , according to the NT a Jew is one that is not only outwardly by the flesh but inwardly,this obviously can't be for a gentile so for a gentile. there is no such thing as a spiritual Jew from the inside only, but there is such a thing as spiritual gentiles.

If you claim to be Israel then you were cut off according to Romans.11. And where the natural branch once was, God grafted in unnatural ones the Gentiles. It doesn't get any clearer. The teaching of God abandoning Israel the nation or replaced by the Church did quite well for almost 1,500 hundred years until he actually gave them back their land AND STARTED TO REGATHER THEM FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD JUST AS HE SAID HE WOULD. God said in Neh. 1:8 if you are unfaithful I will scatter you.' but he also said...

Jer.30:18, 31:8 "Behold I will bring them from the north country and gather them from the ends of the earth."

Isa.43:5 I will bring your descendants from the east and gather you from the west...

It is a nation that is being gathered today for the tribulation, they are gathered first in unbelief until that fateful day where in Romans 11 Paul says they will all be saved after the fullness of the gentiles has come in. The Church is dealt with differently than the nation of Israel, God has a different plan for both.


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We come now to something that is crucial and needs to be defined to understand the new covenant. Is the Church Israel? For if it is ,we are obligated to keep Sabbath day at least in a general sense. If the Church is not Israel then what sense would there be to keep the Sabbath. Scripturally we find the Church is not Israel the nation but a separate entity under an entirely new covenant. Israel is called the wife of Jehovah, while the Church is called the bride of Christ, showing distinctions in how God relates to each. The word Israel is always descriptive of the physical descendants of Abraham, Issac and Jacob. It was Jacob who’s name was changed to Israel and had 12 sons that became that nation.

You are using some of the strangest logic ever seen on this forum to try and make John Nelson Darby's Two Peoples of God doctrine work.

Why in the world would you think anyone is required to keep the Sinai Sabbath under the New Covenant, when the text of Jeremiah 31:31-34 makes it plain that the New Covenant is not like the Sinai Covenant?


Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD:


We see below that some members of the Church can also be described as Israelites, by the inspired writers of the New Testament.
Therefore, your claim above comes apart at the seams.



Act 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.


Rom 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.


as 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
Jas 1:2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;
Jas 1:3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.

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All believing Israelites BELONG TO THE CHURCH, the one body of Christ, not to Israel! The "Israel of God...," in Gak.6:16, are believers who belong to the Church!

Question: "What does it mean that the church has been grafted in Israel’s place?"

Answer: In Romans 11:11–24 Paul compares Israel to the natural branches of a cultivated olive tree and the Gentile believers to the branches of a wild olive tree. The natural branches (Israel) were broken off, and the wild branches (Gentiles) were grafted in (verse 17). The Gentiles, then, have been made partakers of the promises and inherit the blessings of God’s salvation.

It is important to understand how God called Israel to be His people and how they failed to fulfill that calling. As the seed of Abraham, the children of Israel were chosen by God to be a separate people, holy to the Lord. God’s design was for them to be a light to the Gentiles so that they, too, might know God (Genesis 18:17–19; Isaiah 42, 49). Instead, the Israelites chased foreign gods and betrayed their calling (Ezekiel 23; Hosea 11). But God, who knew they would do this, had already promised to restore His kingdom to Israel after they rebelled and then eventually repented (Deuteronomy 30:1–10). So God sent His Son, preceded by a forerunner, to invite Israel to “repent, for the Kingdom of heaven is at hand” (Matthew 3:2; 4:17).

However, when Jesus revealed Himself as the promised Davidic King who would restore Israel (Matthew 11—12; Acts 3:19–22), He was rejected by the Jews, exactly as Isaiah had prophesied (Isaiah 52—53). Jesus therefore called His disciples to fulfill Abraham’s commission to bless the nations (Genesis 12:2–3) by preaching the gospel of the Kingdom to all nations until the end of this age (Matthew 28:18–20). Paul thus preached the gospel of the Kingdom to the Jews and was repeatedly rejected (Acts 13—28); in consequence, Paul brought the good news to the Gentiles, who in turn became Abraham’s spiritual seed by faith and heirs of the promises to Abraham and his seed (Galatians 3—4). This is what Paul meant in Romans 11 by the Gentiles being “grafted” into the “olive tree” and nourished by the “root” (the promises to Abraham). The tree thus signifies the collective people of God; the “wild branches” grafted in are Gentile believers; the “natural branches” that are cut off are the Jews in unbelief. Jewish believers remain in the tree but are joined with Gentiles and “made” into a “new body,” the Church (Ephesians 2:11–22).

Paul anticipated a question that would surely arise among his Gentile readers: “I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall?” (Romans 11:1)—Gentile believers would be tempted to dismiss Israel because it appeared they would never recover. Even today, there are those who advocate supersessionism or replacement theology, which holds that the Church has completely replaced Israel and will inherit the promises to be fulfilled only in a spiritual sense. In other words, according to this view, ethnic Israel is forever excluded from the promises—the Jews will not literally inherit the Promised Land. What then would happen to Israel? What about the Old Testament prophecies that Israel as a nation would repent and be re-gathered to the land in the last days as a permanent possession (Deuteronomy 30:1–10)?

Romans 11 thus conclusively shows Gentile believers that God is not yet “done” with Israel, who has only temporarily lost the privilege of representing God as His people. Since “the gifts and calling of God are irrevocable” (11:29), “all Israel will be saved” in order to fulfill God’s covenant with ethnic Israel (11:25–28), including the promise of land inheritance (Deuteronomy 30:1–10).

While the “natural branches” were cut off because Israel failed, God’s purposes are not complete until Israel is also grafted back into the people of God to share in the promises to Abraham and his seed. This brings full circle God’s larger redemptive plan (Romans 11:30–36) for both Jews and Gentiles as distinct populations within the people of God in the Davidic (or Millennial) Kingdom. Indeed, the prophets saw this Kingdom as the “final form” of the olive tree, so that Israel—reversing roles—would then bless the Gentiles, enabling them to join the people of God (see Zechariah 8:13, 20–23).

Recommended Resource: Dispensationalism by Charles Ryrie

Source: gotquestions.org



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Even the Vatican has abandoned replacement theology. Apparently some Protestants cannot let go of it.

The true form of "Replacement Theology" replaces the one seed, with the many seeds in Galatians 3:16.

It replaces the children of the promise, with the children of the flesh in Romans 9:8.

It replaces the word "so", with the word "then" in Romans 11:26.

It replaces the New Covenant fulfilled for all races of people at Calvary, with a future covenant with modern Israel in Romans 11:27.

It replaces the "son" who is "heir" to the land, with those who reject Him as the "chief cornerstone" in Matthew chapter 21.

Which of the above has the Vatican abandoned?


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The true form of "Replacement Theology" replaces the one seed, with the many seeds in Galatians 3:16.

It replaces the children of the promise, with the children of the flesh in Romans 9:8.

It replaces the word "so", with the word "then" in Romans 11:26.

It replaces the New Covenant fulfilled for all races of people at Calvary, with a future covenant with modern Israel in Romans 11:27.

It replaces the "son" who is "heir" to the land, with those who reject Him as the "chief cornerstone" in Matthew chapter 21.

Which of the above has the Vatican abandoned?


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REVIEW THE FOLLOWING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT
REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY/SUPERSESSIONISM IS:

The Errors of Replacement Theology

By Clarence H. Wagner, Jr.Perhaps you have heard of the term Replacement Theology. However, if you look it up in a dictionary of Church history, you will not find it listed as a systematic study. Rather, it is a doctrinal teaching that originated in the early Church. It became the fertile soil from which Christian anti-Semitism grew and has infected the Church for nearly 1,900 years.
What Is Replacement Theology?Replacement Theology was introduced to the Church shortly after Gentile leadership took over from Jewish leadership. What are its premises?

1. Israel (the Jewish people and the land) has been replaced by the Christian Church in the purposes of God, or, more precisely, the Church is the historic continuation of Israel to the exclusion of the former.

2. The Jewish people are now no longer a "chosen people." In fact, they are no different from any other group, such as the English, Spanish, or Africans.

3. Apart from repentance, the new birth, and incorporation into the Church, the Jewish people have no future, no hope, and no calling in the plan of God. The same is true for every other nation and group.

4.. Since Pentecost of Acts 2, the term "Israel," as found in the Bible, now refers to the Church.

5. The promises, covenants and blessings ascribed to Israel in the Bible have been taken away from the Jews and given to the Church, which has superseded them. However, the Jews are subject to the curses found in the Bible, as a result of their rejection of Christ How Do Replacement Theologians Argue Their Case? They Say:

How Do Replacement Theologians Argue Their Case? They Say:

1. To be a son of Abraham is to have faith in Jesus Christ. For them, Galatians 3:29 shows that sonship to Abraham is seen only in spiritual, not national terms: "And if you be Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Rebuttal: While this is a wonderful inclusionary promise for Gentiles, this verse does not exclude the Jewish people from their original covenant, promise and blessing as the natural seed of Abraham. This verse simply joins us Gentile Christians to what God had already started with Israel.

2. The promise of the land of Canaan to Abraham was only a "starter." The real Promised Land is the whole world. They use Romans 4:13 to claim it will be the Church that inherits the world, not Israel. "For the promise that he should be the heir of the world was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

Rebuttal: Where does this verse exclude Abraham and His natural progeny, the Jews? It simply says that through the law, they would not inherit the world, but this would be acquired through faith. This is also true of the Church.

3. The nation of Israel was only the seed of the future Church, which would arise and incorporate people of all nations (Mal. 1:11): "For from the rising of the sun, even unto the going down of the same, My Name shall be great among the nations, and in every place, incense shall be offered to My Name, and a pure offering for My Name shall be great among the nations, says the Lord of Hosts."

Rebuttal: This is great, and shows that the Jewish people and Israel fulfilled one of their callings to be "a light to the nations," so that God's Word has gone around the world. It does not suggest God's dealing with Israel was negated because His Name spread around the world.

4. Jesus taught that the Jews would lose their spiritual privileges, and be replaced by another people (Matt. 21:43): "Therefore I am saying to you, 'The kingdom of God will be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits of it.'"

Rebuttal: In this passage, Jesus was talking about the priests and Pharisees, who failed as leaders of the people. This passage is not talking about the Jewish people or nation of Israel. See Teaching Letter #770008, "Did God Break His Covenant With the Jews?"

5. A true Jew is anyone born of the Spirit, whether he is racially Gentile or Jewish (Rom. 2:28-29): "For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision which is outward in the flesh; But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God."

Rebuttal: This argument does not support the notion that the Church replaced Israel. Rather, it simply reinforces what had been said throughout the Hebrew Scriptures [the Old Testament], and it certainly qualifies the spiritual qualifications for Jews or anyone who professes to be a follower of the God of Israel.

6. Paul shows that the Church is really the same "olive tree" as was Israel, and the Church is now the tree. Therefore, to distinguish between Israel and the Church is, strictly speaking, false. Indeed, people of Jewish origin need to be grafted back into the Church (Rom 11:17-23).

Rebuttal: This claim is the most outrageous because this passage clearly shows that we Gentiles are the "wild olive branches," who get our life from being grafted into the olive tree. The tree represents the covenants, promises and hopes of Israel (Eph. 2:12), rooted in the Messiah and fed by the sap, which represents the Holy Spirit, giving life to the Jews (the "natural branches") and Gentile alike. We Gentiles are told to remember that the olive tree holds us up and NOT to be arrogant or boast against the "natural branches" because they can be grafted in again. The olive tree is NOT the Church. We are simply grafted into God's plan that preceded us for over 2,000 years.

7. All the promises made to Israel in the Old Testament, unless they were historically fulfilled before the coming of Jesus Christ, are now the property of the Christian Church. These promises should not be interpreted literally or carnally, but spiritually and symbolically, so that references to Israel, Jerusalem, Zion and the Temple, when they are prophetic, really refer to the Church (II Cor. 1:20). "For all the promises of God in Him (Jesus) are Yea, and in Him, Amen, unto the glory of God by us." Therefore, they teach that the New Testament needs to be taught figuratively, not literally.

Rebuttal: Later, in this Teaching Letter, we will look at the fact that the New Testament references to Israel clearly pertain to Israel, not the Church. Therefore, no promise to Israel and the Jewish people in the Bible is figurative, nor can they be relegated to the Church alone. The promises and covenants are literal, many of them are everlasting, and we Christians can participate in them as part of our rebirth, not in that we took them over to the exclusion of Israel. The New Testament speaks of the Church's relationship to Israel and her covenants as being "grafted in" (Rom. 11:17), "brought near" (Eph. 2:13), "Abraham's offspring (by faith)" (Rom. 4:16), and "partakers" (Rom. 15:27), NOT as usurpers of the covenant and a replacer of physical Israel. We Gentile Christians joined into what God had been doing in Israel, and God did not break His covenant promises with Israel (Rom. 11:29).

Source: Error of Replacement Theology


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We Gentile Christians joined into what God had been doing in Israel, and God did not break His covenant promises with Israel (Rom. 11:29).

This effort to make the Two Peoples of God doctrine work falls apart very quickly.

The first is the statement "We Gentile Christians".

This statement assumes that none of us could possibly be related to Jacob.
Without a DNA test nobody would know.
The Church as a whole has never been a "Gentile Church".
On the Day of Pentecost Peter addressed the crowd as "all the house of Israel" in Acts 2:36.
On that day about 3,000 Israelites accepted the New Covenant promised in Matthew 26:28.
Paul considered himself an Israelite, even after his conversion, in Romans 11:1.
The fact is that when the Church began almost all of its members were Israelites. The Gentiles were grafted in several years later. Even today, the Church continues to be made up of all races of people.

To claim that God made a covenant with a race of people which was not fulfilled at Calvary is promoting some form of "Dual Covenant" Theology.

Based on Matthew 1:1, Jesus Christ is the ultimate fulfillment of Israel.
This is confirmed by Paul in Galatians 3:16.

The author of the article completely ignored the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 7:12, and Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in Hebrews 12:22-24, and 2 Corinthians 3:6-8.
Why did the author of the article above ignore the New Covenant?
Because an understanding of the New Covenant destroys modern Dispensational Theology, which was brought to America by John Nelson Darby, about the time of the Civil War.

The New Covenant: Bob George


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