Jesus is the worst decision I ever made.

Xavier Cane · May 14, 2018

Dave G. said:
Do you have any idea how foolish this sounds ? It's ridiculous actually.

Do you know how foolish it sounds to tell a man to trust a God that he cannot see? And trust in a salvation he cannot prove? it's pretty ridiculous. I mean, if you live in reality.

Elect Souls Matter · May 14, 2018

You're bitter that you're still a slave to sin and that the Almighty didnt help you out of this swamp?
It seems to me you never believed, you honored the Lord with your lips, but your heart was far from him.
Do not get me wrong, Saved people still struggle with sin, it is a battle that will end only at resurrection day. We live in a fallen world with corrupted bodies. It is and was from the beginning of all creation Gods plan that it be this way.
Repent, turn your heart to the Lord and fight the temptations, whatever they may be.
For "we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purposes." (Rom. 8:28)

Xavier Cane · May 14, 2018

ToBeLoved said:
But what does that actually mean to you?

For instance, I’ve heard many Christians share their testimonies. Some people right after they have been saved no longer want to or desire to do some of the sinful things they did before, while others in the short term do not find not sinning easier, but they do feel convicted of sin they commit.

So in these two completely different experiences who has overcome sin? And which one or both have had the power of sin broken in their lives?

I would say if the person no longer has the desire to sin they have received a gift from God, but have not overcome sin in their life in any major way because it wasn’t a struggle for them. They did not struggle or overcome.

Whereas the other person who is struggling being convicted and repenting and trying not to sin again is doing the harder work of obedience to God.

So that is why I’m asking you what that means and why you feel like you have failed.

God is not holding you to perfection, only to the daily stepping out in faith to try to overcome

Thanks again. But I cannot express it any better than I have already. I desire to sin, and the only reason I do not want to sin is because I know it's against God. However, not wanting to do it has no power to help me deny doing whatever sin I want to do at that time. Am I convicted, yes? Even before I do it, but it still does not stop it. Can a person practice sin in their life and still be saved? I think not. And that is my problem. I have never been saved, even though I asked god to save me. he never has. I trusted that I was for many years, even in my sin...but I'm not doing that anymore. Time to be real. This life is not the life for me. I tried it.

Xavier Cane · May 14, 2018

Elect Souls Matter said:
You're bitter that you're still a slave to sin and that the Almighty didnt help you out of this swamp?
It seems to me you never believed, you honored the Lord with your lips, but your heart was far from him.
Do not get me wrong, Saved people still struggle with sin, it is a battle that will end only at resurrection day. We live in a fallen world with corrupted bodies. It is and was from the beginning of all creation Gods plan that it be this way.
Repent, turn your heart to the Lord and fight the temptations, whatever they may be.
For "we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purposes." (Rom. 8:28)

I am bitter, but I alo know that I trusted Jesus for many years, and not for lip service, I was doing it out of obedience. I prayed because the bible said seek me and you will find me...I read the bible because the bibles say to do so...I was being obedient to the word of God as best as I could...man shall live by every word of God right!...and that I have tried to do, but sin would not leave my quarters. Draw near to me and I will draw near to you...This I tried for years...Yet where was God? It was because I wanted to get closer to God. I guess that's a sin too. Its self0riteous people like you that makes me realize how messed up your religion is.

Dave G. · May 14, 2018

Xavier Cane said:
That's my point. My lifestyle is a lifestyle of sin. I don't fall into sin, I have never been saved from it in the first place. All that acknowledge sin, yeah, did that too, and guess what...sin is still in control. Doesnt the bible say something like...no one who is born of god continues on in sin? Case and point.

Have you asked Jesus Christ into your heart ? It all starts there. You must be born again. In being born again you lose desire for much of the sin in your life, you gain the guidance of the Holy Spirit.. You also gain conviction of the sin if you do it. Some sins become strongholds in your life and you may need assistance with those from a pastor or pastor/counselor. If there is chemical addiction that is another matter, you may need medical help.

Let me just say, Satan isn't going to help you with any of this, he wants you in sin.

Xavier Cane · May 14, 2018

Dave G. said:
Have you asked Jesus Christ into your heart ? It all starts there. You must be born again. In being born again you lose desire for much of the sin in your life, you gain the guidance of the Holy Spirit.. You also gain conviction of the sin if you do it. Some sins become strongholds in your life and you may need assistance with those from a pastor or pastor/counselor. If there is chemical addiction that is another matter, you may need medical help.

Let me just say, Satan isn't going to help you with any of this, he wants you in sin.

Maybe you didnt read my post. yes...I asked Christ into my heart...Heck, I still do it, lol. Because he is not there. I wish he was, I thought he was at times, and even confessed that he was. But he isnt. That's just it. It's all fake, and I'm done following the parade of presumption with the rest of the fools that trust it.

chevyontheriver · May 14, 2018

Xavier Cane said:
I'm not catholic at all. My real name is Jeremiah. Xavier is only used on the net to hide my identity. And I have never been catholic.

OK. It's an interesting name to pick to hide your identity in that it is definitely a Catholic name. My own screen name, also chosen to hide my identity on the net, is almost totally meaningless, so I get it about picking screen names.

So you have not been Catholic ever. When I read your initial post I was trying to figure out how someone with Catholic roots could come to your position. What kind of roots do you have? You said you became a Christian in your teens, but what were you before that, and what brand of Christian did you become? Do you think the brand you chose has anything to do with your situation now? Answer only to the extent you want to and are comfortable with. I don't want to be too prying.

Aldebaran · May 14, 2018

Xavier Cane said:
Thanks again. But I cannot express it any better than I have already. I desire to sin, and the only reason I do not want to sin is because I know it's against God. However, not wanting to do it has no power to help me deny doing whatever sin I want to do at that time. Am I convicted, yes? Even before I do it, but it still does not stop it. Can a person practice sin in their life and still be saved? I think not. And that is my problem. I have never been saved, even though I asked god to save me. he never has. I trusted that I was for many years, even in my sin...but I'm not doing that anymore. Time to be real. This life is not the life for me. I tried it.

If it's something that you don't want to do, then you have the choice to not do it, correct? We still have to make choices in our life, whether to do the things we want to do or not do based on what we know to be right or wrong. However, there will always be a temptation by our sinful nature to do things that God doesn't want us to do. Trust me.

anna ~ grace · May 14, 2018

Xavier Cane said:
I am bitter, but I alo know that I trusted Jesus for many years, and not for lip service, I was doing it out of obedience. I prayed because the bible said seek me and you will find me...I read the bible because the bibles say to do so...I was being obedient to the word of God as best as I could...man shall live by every word of God right!...and that I have tried to do, but sin would not leave my quarters. Draw near to me and I will draw near to you...This I tried for years...Yet where was God? It was because I wanted to get closer to God. I guess that's a sin too. Its self0riteous people like you that makes me realize how messed up your religion is.

So, you're basically admitting that you are leaving Christ because you enjoy sin. At least that's honest.

Xavier Cane · May 14, 2018

chevyontheriver said:
OK. It's an interesting name to pick to hide your identity in that it is definitely a Catholic name. My own screen name, also chosen to hide my identity on the net, is almost totally meaningless, so I get it about picking screen names.

So you have not been Catholic ever. When I read your initial post I was trying to figure out how someone with Catholic roots could come to your position. What kind of roots do you have? You said you became a Christian in your teens, but what were you before that, and what brand of Christian did you become? Do you think the brand you chose has anything to do with your situation now? Answer only to the extent you want to and are comfortable with. I don't want to be too prying.

Protestant, not raised in the church. I made the decision to follow Jesus on my own. Yes, religion made me have many problems...hence the name of the post...Jesus...the worst decision I ever made.

Aldebaran · May 14, 2018

Xavier Cane said:
Protestant, not raised in the church. I made the decision to follow Jesus on my own. Yes, religion made me have many problems...hence the name of the post...Jesus...the worst decision I ever made.

Have you ever read about what Paul was going through with his struggle with his sin nature?

From Romans:
7:14 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 18 I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do -- this I keep on doing. 22 For in my inner being I delight in God's law; 23 but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. 24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death?

It sounds much like what you've been saying.

Xavier Cane · May 14, 2018

Aldebaran said:
If it's something that you don't want to do, then you have the choice to not do it, correct? We still have to make choices in our life, whether to do the things we want to do or not do based on what we know to be right or wrong. However, there will always be a temptation by our sinful nature to do things that God doesn't want us to do. Trust me.

Wrong. The choice is not as simple as you make it. Answer me this, when the compulsion to do something does not leave, what do you do? Take masturbation for example, which is indeed a problem for me...The compulsion will not leave, you are forced to make it go away, and you do so by giving in to it. That's the only way I have ever gotten deliverance from any sin, just to do it, because God will not take away the desire, nor will he give me power to overcome. How do I know? Well, I have over 15 years of experience with him not helping...that is if he is a him. Who knows with that crazy bible.

Xavier Cane · May 14, 2018

Aldebaran said:
Have you ever read about what Paul was going through with his struggle with his sin nature?

From Romans:
7:14 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 18 I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do -- this I keep on doing. 22 For in my inner being I delight in God's law; 23 but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. 24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death?

It sounds much like what you've been saying.

Yes, I have read it. and guess what...paul was eventually delivered. I have not been. so its no proof for me. I do not trust the bible. it is the source of my problems indeed.

Aldebaran · May 14, 2018

Xavier Cane said:
Yes, I have read it. and guess what...paul was eventually delivered. I have not been. so its no proof for me. I do not trust the bible. it is the source of my problems indeed.

He was delivered when he died. What he was saying is that as long as we are alive, we exist in a body that has a sin nature.

Xavier Cane · May 14, 2018

Gracia Singh said:
So, you're basically admitting that you are leaving Christ because you enjoy sin. At least that's honest.

No, I'm leaving christ because I enjoy my sin and god is doing nothing to change that. I have done all I know to do to change it, but I cannot help the things I like. I can try to avoid it, and I can try to occupy my time, but I have never had the power to overcome, at least not consistently. I'm leaving jesus because it has wasted enough of my years. I dedicated myself to him, and for what? Hurt, pain, disappointment. Not disappointment by men, but disappointed by the god of the bible. he said he would deliver me, and that has not happened. He told me to follow him, and I did, but yet I am bound. So why follow someone who does not keep promises? That's why I'm leaving. It's not just about the sin I like, its about the sin I like that God will not remove or put something in its place. NOpe. But thanks for trying to help.

Bible Believing Gentiles · May 14, 2018

Xavier Cane said:
I stopped trusting Jesus. Why? because it was a bad choice, the worst choice I ever made.
33 now, I made the choice to follow Jesus when I was 15, and I have done so with passion. But my passion is dead, I cannot wait any longer for God to do what he said...break the power of sin in my life. I did everything I was supposed to do, but god did not. I cannot even say god with a capital G anymore, I refuse to.

I doubt Gods love, and since the age of 15 I have tried my best to seek him in every decision I made, and here I am, don't even know what the holy spirit leading is, and I swear to god, I fast often for that main purpose - to be more sensitive to the leading and guiding of the holy spirit...all to no avail.

My life has no true purpose. They say you find your purpose in Jesus, well, that a lie, because this jesus has not given me any purpose. All the things I wanted to do for him, I no longer want to do, because I am still bound by sin in every way imaginable. I do not know what else to do, and I have tried everything inside the bible, and some things outside of the bible. That's how I know that trusting the bible to be real and following jesus were the worse things I ever did. Because jesus of the bible was a deliverer, but to this day, I have found no deliverance from that man.

I openly confessed him and trusted him, and now I am rejecting the thought of him. They say the closer you get to him, the more like him you will become, well, I do not want to be close to god anymore. When I tried to get close, and I did try, but I only hated life more and found less joy a meaningfulness in life. It's sad too because I have a wife and children who I preach Christ to adamantly (not like a preacher), and try to lead in a goldy example. But it's just not working. So I'm done trying.

I just needed to vent.

Are you speaking of being delivered from your own committing of sins, or being delivered from the effects that the sins of other people have on your life?

Xavier Cane · May 14, 2018

Aldebaran said:
He was delivered when he died. What he was saying is that as long as we are alive, we exist in a body that has a sin nature.

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But should the sin nature dominate? I do not think so.

Oloyedelove · May 14, 2018

Xavier Cane said:
I stopped trusting Jesus. Why? because it was a bad choice, the worst choice I ever made.
33 now, I made the choice to follow Jesus when I was 15, and I have done so with passion. But my passion is dead, I cannot wait any longer for God to do what he said...break the power of sin in my life. I did everything I was supposed to do, but god did not. I cannot even say god with a capital G anymore, I refuse to.

I doubt Gods love, and since the age of 15 I have tried my best to seek him in every decision I made, and here I am, don't even know what the holy spirit leading is, and I swear to god, I fast often for that main purpose - to be more sensitive to the leading and guiding of the holy spirit...all to no avail.

My life has no true purpose. They say you find your purpose in Jesus, well, that a lie, because this jesus has not given me any purpose. All the things I wanted to do for him, I no longer want to do, because I am still bound by sin in every way imaginable. I do not know what else to do, and I have tried everything inside the bible, and some things outside of the bible. That's how I know that trusting the bible to be real and following jesus were the worse things I ever did. Because jesus of the bible was a deliverer, but to this day, I have found no deliverance from that man.

I openly confessed him and trusted him, and now I am rejecting the thought of him. They say the closer you get to him, the more like him you will become, well, I do not want to be close to god anymore. When I tried to get close, and I did try, but I only hated life more and found less joy a meaningfulness in life. It's sad too because I have a wife and children who I preach Christ to adamantly (not like a preacher), and try to lead in a goldy example. But it's just not working. So I'm done trying.

I just needed to vent.

I knew Christ at about the of 16, I have enjoyed his power that keeps men above sin for some time and knew for sure that the power is real. Then I missed it at some point and my life became miserable for some years. I can also tell you I tried everything I thought worked for me the previous time and discovered they were all not working. I got really frustrated with life bcoz it was affecting my whole life. This misery lasted for more than 3 yrs. Then last year Dec I thought I should give fasting a trial, I had tried fasting before but this time around I was willing to go without food for days. That Dec I did my first 3 days, saw some things in scripture but I wasn't fine yet. Then beginning of this year I tried 7 days and still terrible. Then I concluded I was living Christ after struggling to know him for more than 10yrs. Few days after making the decision to leave him totally I was washing when a thought came to me. The thought was, if I am willing to throw everything I have known and everything I have invested in knowing Christ away, I should as well just give a trial of a 40days fast. My thoughts was with that I will have an excuse to give him if he tries to throw me to hell for all the terrible things I was ready to start doing. At least I fasted the number of days he did also and still had issues.
I am typing this msg right now and I can testify to you that he changed my life forever with that fasting. I ate daily during those 40 days in the evenings. My life is not the same again, he convinced me that he is not only alive but that he is still delivering men from the power of sin. The scriptures literally came alive to me, I could understand everything. All of a sudden I could say no to things that had always dominate me.
It's more than two months after the fasting but am getting better daily. Don't give up, he is with you in this.
God bless.

Xavier Cane · May 14, 2018

Bible Believing Gentiles said:
Are you speaking of being delivered from your own committing of sins, or being delivered from the effects that the sins of other people have on your life?

My own sin.

Xavier Cane · May 14, 2018

Oloyedelove said:
I knew Christ at about the of 16, I have enjoyed his power that keeps men above sin for some time and knew for sure that the power is real. Then I missed it at some point and my life became miserable for some years. I can also tell you I tried everything I thought worked for me the previous time and discovered they were all not working. I got really frustrated with life bcoz it was affecting my whole life. This misery lasted for more than 3 yrs. Then last year Dec I thought I should give fasting a trial, I had tried fasting before but this time around I was willing to go without food for days. That Dec I did my first 3 days, saw some things in scripture but I wasn't fine yet. Then beginning of this year I tried 7 days and still terrible. Then I concluded I was living Christ after struggling to know him for more than 10yrs. Few days after making the decision to leave him totally I was washing when a thought came to me. The thought was, if I am willing to throw everything I have known and everything I have invested in knowing Christ away, I should as well just give a trial of a 40days fast. My thoughts was with that I will have an excuse to give him if he tries to throw me to hell for all the terrible things I was ready to start doing. At least I fasted the number of days he did also and still had issues.
I am typing this msg right now and I can testify to you that he changed my life forever with that fasting. I ate daily during those 40 days in the evenings. My life is not the same again, he convinced me that he is not only alive but that he is still delivering men from the power of sin. The scriptures literally came alive to me, I could understand everything. All of a sudden I could say no to things that had always dominate me.
It's more than two months after the fasting but am getting better daily. Don't give up, he is with you in this.
God bless.

I've been on 3 day fast before with no food or water. Did not help me at all. Actually, I will tell you...I fast every single monday...not today because I said F that ish...but still, fasting is no help to me at all. I'm tired of all of it.

Jesus is the worst decision I ever made.

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