Is Christ's Victory an eternal aspect of God?

Sam81 said:

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Could it be possible that Christ's Victory over hell and death is a primary aspect of God? And that the Victory was for our sake makes it all the more incredible to ponder. Maybe that's what John is alluding to when he said that "God is Love". (1 John 4:8) (John 3:16)

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A primary aspect of God to usward certainly, without which there is no relational aspect of God that any can claim. Not just primary to us but all that God can be to us is accomplished in that one fact of the Godhead.

You need to go into a deep study of Isiah 53, Psalms 22 (which shows Jesus was not forsaken by God), and “He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. 2 Cor. 5:21 NASB

First off 2 Cor. 5:21 in the NIV and has as a footnote: b.2 Corinthians 5:21 Or be a sin offering since

The word translated “sin” just has to do with sin and does not mean just “sin” but you have to come up with something to explain it, so the NIV translators just give you another possibility.

One is 1 Peter 2:24, which states that Christ "himself bore [or "carried up"] our sins in his body on the tree" (NIV). This verse appears in a passage which quotes from Isaiah 53, virtually the only Scriptural passage which may clearly support Substitution. Yet Matthew did not interpret Isaiah in that way.

According to Matthew, "He took up our infirmities and carried our diseases" (Isa. 53:4, NIV) meant not that infirmities were vicariously imputed to Christ at his crucifixion, but rather that Christ healed the sick, thus "carrying" or "bearing" their diseases away from them (Matt. 8:16,17).

Similarly, it is possible that Jesus "bore" or "carried away" our sins from us not by becoming our substitute, but by becoming our sin offering.

Atonement is a huge topic which I am happy to discuss, but it is much better to experience atonement than it is to discuss it intellectually, so when you first realized or even came to a greater understanding of the fact your substitute at the cross might be one of those who yield “Crucify Him” for he was tortured humiliated and murdered because of you and to help you fulfill your earthly objective did you feel that death blow to your heart (Acts 2:37)?

Sam81 said:

First, it's worth pointing out that so many people - even Christians - don't grasp the total gravity of what Jesus Accomplished. Sweating drops of blood (Luke 22:44), it wasn't merely the Crucifixion the Lord was dreading. No, there have been a lot of condemned prisoners throughout history, facing awful ends, but none so as to cause one to sweat blood in anticipation. Consider the words of Paul, who said that Jesus "became sin" - Jesus was so saturated with the sin of the world so as to become it. (2 Corinthians 5:21)

The Father couldn't bear to look. (Matthew 27:46) And with the Holy Spirit leaving Him (Matthew 27:50), the Son went to hell alone.

People often say about a grievous sinner, "you're going to split hell wide open". I've used that expression myself. But let me tell you, the only person to ever truly split hell wide open was Jesus.

The sorrows of hell compassed me about: the snares of death prevented me. In my distress I called upon the Lord, and cried unto my God: he heard my voice out of his temple, and my cry came before him, even into his ears. (Psalm 18:5-6)

In Revelation it talks about the Lamb "slain before the foundation of the world". (Rev 13:8)

Could it be possible that Christ's Victory over hell and death is a primary aspect of God? And that the Victory was for our sake makes it all the more incredible to ponder. Maybe that's what John is alluding to when he said that "God is Love". (1 John 4:8) (John 3:16)

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Does Jesus have a physical body in heaven?

What about his pre incarnation form? Was the jesus in revelation his post incaranation form?

Sam81 said:

Could it be possible that Christ's Victory over hell and death is a primary aspect of God?

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Don't know about "primary". But it's really not possible for God to be God without knowing what it's like to be nailed to wood. So yes, I daresay it's eternal.