Conspiracy - Are Some Theories Accurate?

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Are you aware of solid rock ringing like a bell?

Yep. Solid rock resonates very well. They article doesn't meant that it made a clanging noise; it means that the vibrations continued for a long time.

Scientists have long thought that the moon was formed when an impactor crashed into Earth, some 100 million years after the planet’s formation. But details of this collision, and how the moon formed in its aftermath, remain puzzling. Now, researchers have found new potassium isotopic evidence that suggests the moon condensed from a superheated cloud of Earth’s mantle material after an extremely violent collision vaporized the impactor and much of the proto-Earth.
Moon formed from pulverized Earth mantle

The reason that, unlike the Earth, vibrations move easily through the Moon, is that it's composed of rocky mantle, with a very small core if it has one at all. Hence, both S-waves and P-waves move easily through it, while S-waves are blocked by the Earth's core.
 
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I guess that makes Saturn unique then, being the only planet where we have clear images of the pole openings.

The "hole" is a vortex, a large hurricane-like storm in the atmosphere of the planet.

Some incredible new shots of the atmospheric vortex at the center of Saturn’s north polar hexagon were captured by NASA’s Cassini spacecraft this week, and brought to our attention in a tweet by space enthusiast Jason Major. The images were snapped during the latest of Cassini’s ring-grazing orbits, which have so far yielded stunning glimpses of Saturn’s rings, and its delightfully pasta-shaped moons.
https://gizmodo.com/oh-my-god-look-at-saturns-north-pole-1793887193
 
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Yep. Solid rock resonates very well. They article doesn't meant that it made a clanging noise; it means that the vibrations continued for a long time.

Saw that one coming, glad to see that you're participating. :)

Did you find anything interesting about operation Highjump?

Too many internal contradictions. Too many claims at odds with observed facts.

What did you find?

Or Byrd's published diary?
 
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The "hole" is a vortex, a large hurricane-like storm in the atmosphere of the planet.

And what do the Earth images/videos show at the poles? Earth also has a gaseous atmosphere.

Little off topic here, video about an unusual discovery which a corroborated by multiple other observers at different times.




Don't mind if I borrow your quote, do ya?

(cue "Twilight Zone" theme)
 
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And what do the Earth images/videos show at the poles?

Nothing like a hole.

Earth also has a gaseous atmosphere.

And vortices, too.

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Only short-lived, moving, and not at the poles.
 
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Source of this image? (I'll just overlook that this isn't a pole image)

Satellite images have seemed to have evolved over the years....

What is your favorite...Old, New, Aqua, Blue, White or Black Marble?

Nothing like a hole.

Didn't expect that you would otherwise it wouldn't be a conspiracy would it?

Saturn is the only planet that shows unaltered imagery of the poles.

Any thoughts on this one?

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ESSA-7 Sat Mission

https://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/nmc/spacecraftDisplay.do?id=1968-069A
 
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Since Byrd never claimed a hole into a hollow Earth existed...

Not the south pole, but he absolutely told of his north pole excursion in his published diary.


The events surrounding his diary being published (after his death) are even more intriguing since National Geographic obtained a copy of it. There's an image of them displaying it in another documentary, but the image itself cannot be found on the net.

Documentary about Byrd.


Given the Medal of Honor when he returns....and the controversy surrounding this entire Conspiracy theory. It was his north pole excursion in 1926 where he entered the inner earth. But he records his diary of the inner earth while on route to the south pole with an armada in operation Highjump.

Richard E. Byrd - Wikipedia

Operation Highjump was going after the Nazi's to the secret bases at the south pole....which his mission is given unlimited funding and an 8 month period. Only to return 2 weeks later having lost (destroyed) a large part of the fleet to Nazi advanced weaponry.

South pole is a whole other egg all by itself.

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Nuther Giza plateau down there.

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Classified information.

Should we also disregard Wernher von Braun's disclosure in the 1970's publication of Popular Science talking about crashing a Saturn rock stage into the surface? (Apollo 13 mission) - linked above.

Or should we believe the 2016 publication in Space.com showing the impact crater, from the Apollo 16 mission, from an S-IVB rocket stage?

Moon Mystery Solved! Apollo Rocket Impact Site Finally Found

Or should we just believe the official NASA disclosure in 2006 that doesn't even talk about von Braun's disclosure or rocket impacts and go with your reference for the Earth as well as the Moon? - linked above.

"Between 1969 and 1972, Apollo astronauts placed seismometers at their landing sites around the moon. The Apollo 12, 14, 15, and 16 instruments faithfully radioed data back to Earth until they were switched off in 1977."

"Furthermore, shallow moonquakes lasted a remarkably long time. Once they got going, all continued more than 10 minutes. "The moon was ringing like a bell," Neal says."



Withholding classified information doesn't equate to "no reason to believe his story". Assuming that you've reviewed the evidence provided and done some research on operation Highjump, I would think that most people would believe that his story is genuinely true.

His diary is even more intriguing when you get into the history of it.

Not just any old sailor...Navy Admiral.

Your entire post indicates a willingness to accept that we can leave the earth and land on the moon. That would fly in the face of the idea that the earth is flat with a dome over it, not to mention the idea that the stars are just little lights attached to the dome, and that the sun and moon are much smaller and closer than scientists say.
 
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Your entire post indicates a willingness to accept that we can leave the earth and land on the moon. That would fly in the face of the idea that the earth is flat with a dome over it, not to mention the idea that the stars are just little lights attached to the dome, and that the sun and moon are much smaller and closer than scientists say.

"A foolish consistency is the bugbear of small minds."
Ralph Waldo Emerson

Still, that seems like a pretty big inconsistency...
 
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"A foolish consistency is the bugbear of small minds."
Ralph Waldo Emerson

Still, that seems like a pretty big inconsistency...

And probably something the flat earth community would be hotly debating among themselves. I guess not all flat earthers are alike, which is understandable since Christians aren't all alike either. But if they all believe the earth is flat and has an dome over it that can't be penetrated, and the stars and moon and sun are attached to it, along with the planets and all other celestial objects, then the idea of landing on the moon, or sending probes to other planets, and certainly a space ship base with ships that go to other galaxies are out of the question.
 
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Your entire post indicates a willingness to accept that we can leave the earth and land on the moon.



The vast majority of the general populations of the world are completely oblivious to what's really going on and Earth's history. There's the world that we're all familiar with and then there's the world of secrets and denial.

Bottom line. The world of secrets and denial wants to reveal the truth very, very slowly in order to condition the masses and prepare everyone for the truth before revealing it. If the truth were to come out now, you'd create a global panic and most people just wouldn't be able to handle it. It would be too great of a shock for most people and your life would be turned upside down.

Your idea of God and the angels now would turn into something right out of a science fiction movie, which not so ironically, is the very means of slow revelation and conditioning of the masses.

There's just too much to disclose in a forum, you'll need to do a significant amount of reading and searching on your own....or remain in your comfort zone of denial. Nothing wrong with that either, most peeps just don't wanna know the truth and are perfectly happy believing the lies.

In secondary response to the "FE's" belief's of this depiction below, it's just a misunderstanding of scripture.

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The proper understanding is to view the Earth from a cross-section point of view showing a hollow earth with a concave inner surface and a central sun or artificial sun.

The inner earth is a forbidden place and guarded by cherubim (angels). Read Genesis for the reasons why....

Again, there's more to this place than can be shown in this post....but if you'd rather prefer to look for future revelation rather than the past, maybe this will help a little?

Jesus v Paul on Rapture

The wicked are "taken out of the earth" first....

List of missions to Mars - Wikipedia

They know what's coming and don't wanna be here when it arrives. (Forecast 100 years from now).

In short, world governments are on the losing team because they made deals with the devil for advanced technology. There's so much more going on than what you can even begin to think of, so you'll have to do your own discovery if you want to know.
 
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But if they all believe the earth is flat and has an dome over it that can't be penetrated

This perception is valid from a certain point of view, namely walking on the Earth, in a ship or flying at low altitude.

I'll use this satellite image of the North Pole for reference.

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This opening is so large that from a person's perspective standing on the earth, in a ship or a plane...you wouldn't be aware of any change in position as you enter. You would not be able to see the curvature of the opening in the same way that you're not able to see the curvature of the Earth. So your perception of your surroundings wouldn't change, that includes your position as well as cloud-cover. Gravity doesn't change and the atmosphere follows the curvature of the Earth on the inside in the very same way that it does on the outside. The most significant changes would be seeing your compass have a mind of it own (spinning) and seeing the central sun (clear sky) if you were to enter during the winter solstice. Those would be your first indications of something being very wrong.

Arctic Zone: Daylight, Darkness and Changing of the Seasons at the North Pole

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The dome is on the inside, which extends over the pole(s)...an invisible barrier with angels guarding the entrance.

Genesis 3:24 Hebrew Text Analysis

It's is said, in ancient Hindu and Buddhist texts, that the inner Earth is a higher dimension. Ours being 3 dimensions + time (4D). There's being the 5th dimension which surpasses time. Think of it it in the same terminology used in the bible as eternal life. From a Christian or Judaism point of view, it's the Garden of Eden.
 
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Nothing like a hole.

This is interesting, something I found by accident (just now) while looking for something else. Wait about 3 minutes and you'll understand how it directly applies to the above posts. At about the 4th minute, makes it pretty clear.


Dome with an oculus, light in the east, west and south and God is in the darkness at the north. But the speaker says that the Bible tells us that God "resides in the darkness"...which isn't true.

Isaiah 9:2 Hebrew Text Analysis

Exodus 20:21 Hebrew Text Analysis

This is what most people have misunderstood.

Genesis 1:2 Hebrew Text Analysis

Genesis 1:3 Hebrew Text Analysis

Seraph - Wikipedia

Or it could be the central sun..."darkness was on the face of the deep".

Genesis 3:24 Hebrew Text Analysis

It's this passage here though that implies what's coming. It's referring to how the Earth was in the beginning, before the Flood.

I find it extremely suspicious that Masons won't allow Hindu's or Buddhists to join. Probably because they'd expose all of the symbolism and let lower Mason's in on the big secrets.

Cuz that ain't Santa living at the North Pole.
 
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Gonna quote Aldebaran's recent post in another FE thread...since it directly applies here.

The claim is that Antartica is all along the outer rim of the earth. Therefore, Antarctica is said to be the edge where there is a giant ice wall where the dome of the sky is attached.

The scriptures are correct, it's the early writers of the "Flat Earth" theory that didn't know that the Earth was a globe. But everything they believe is actually a valid point of view from the surface (inside or outside).

But when you put everything together from an external point of view far above the Earth, it becomes significantly more clear.

A lot of these conspiracy theories are all tied together.

It's literally the biggest secret of all time, but those in power have known for centuries. Possibly finding the origination point in King Solomon's Temple?

1 Kings 3:12 I will do what you have asked. I will give you a wise and discerning heart, so that there will never have been anyone like you, nor will there ever be.

King Solomon - Occult World

King Solomon's seals - Itzahk Mizrahi - Practical Kabbalah
 
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Gonna quote Aldebaran's recent post in another FE thread...since it directly applies here.



The scriptures are correct, it's the early writers of the "Flat Earth" theory that didn't know that the Earth was a globe. But everything they believe is actually a valid point of view from the surface.

But when you put everything together from an external point of view far above the Earth, it becomes significantly more clear.

A lot of these conspiracy theories are all ties together.

It's literally the biggest secret of all time, but those in power have known for centuries. Possibly finding the origination point in King Solomon's Temple?

1 Kings 3:12 I will do what you have asked. I will give you a wise and discerning heart, so that there will never have been anyone like you, nor will there ever be.

King Solomon - Occult World

King Solomon's seals - Itzahk Mizrahi - Practical Kabbalah

What gets me is that there are so many people who think that this secret being out is actually the conspiracy. We have satellites above the earth that can take a picture of it at any time, and yet there are people who will say that all those pictures are fake. It's an indication that some will stand by a point of view that contradicts reality no matter how strongly reality is shown to them.
 
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We have satellites above the earth that can take a picture of it at any time, and yet there are people who will say that all those pictures are fake.

That's because they're all CGI or enhanced. Anything that's secret is airbrushed or visibly altered.

Using Google Earth confirms this to be true.

The image of the North Pole posted above is the only known image of the North Pole (published) that has not been altered, but longitudinal/latitudinal lines are visibly added. Everything else beyond the date of that image, to my knowledge, has been altered in some way.

It's an indication that some will stand by a point of view that contradicts reality no matter how strongly reality is shown to them.

You mean like this?

flat earth debate

I don't look at people that wish to believe in conspiracy theories as being crazy. They're all actively looking for answers KNOWING that we're not being told the truth. Granted some are more on the fringe than others, but so are some of the great thinkers in our own time.

Have you ever seen the movie "A Beautiful Mind"? True story about John Nash.

Bet you didn't know that the Prophets of the Bible were all insane, kind of a pre-requisite to be honest.
 
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That story was highly embellished.

The point is that John believed in a conspiracy and was later diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia.

The sad part is that people lose their marbles not because they're insane, but because they cannot prove their perceptions to others. The true definition of insanity doesn't come from within the person, it can only be defined by someone else. But unless that someone else is a direct observer of the victim's perception as it's happening, then the victim can never prove their theory.
 
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