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If someone is doing something against you online (malicious intentions) that the police can't trace or don't have enough proof to charge the perpertrator and ofcourse we are not to take things into our own hands....will God step in and stop them or are we just out of luck? I know we all have free will but does that mean nothing can be done unless the individual decides to stop doing what he is doing?
 

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If someone is doing something against you online (malicious intentions) that the police can't trace or don't have enough proof to charge the perpertrator and ofcourse we are not to take things into our own hands....will God step in and stop them or are we just out of luck?
He might stop them, He might not. Nobody can know that. He may be letting it happen because there's something you need to learn, or He's making you stronger for some other purpose (Isaiah 48:10).

I know we all have free will but does that mean nothing can be done unless the individual decides to stop doing what he is doing?
I don't think this is an issue that has much to do with free will, but it depends on what exactly that person is doing. Sometimes something can be done, sometimes something can't be done. Regardless, pray about it.
 
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He might stop them, He might not. Nobody can know that. He may be letting it happen because there's something you need to learn, or He's making you stronger for some other purpose (Isaiah 48:10).


I don't think this is an issue that has much to do with free will, but it depends on what exactly that person is doing. Sometimes something can be done, sometimes something can't be done. Regardless, pray about it.



So basically God will sit by and watch maliciousness being done even if that person is praying for His help in the matter?
 
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So basically God will sit by and watch maliciousness being done even if that person is praying for His help in the matter?
Like I said, He might. It's also a possibility that you're simply not seeing the help that He is offering.

God Will Save Me

A terrible storm came into a town and local officials sent out an emergency warning that the riverbanks would soon overflow and flood the nearby homes. They ordered everyone in the town to evacuate immediately.

A faithful Christian man heard the warning and decided to stay, saying to himself, “I will trust God and if I am in danger, then God will send a divine miracle to save me.”

The neighbors came by his house and said to him, “We’re leaving and there is room for you in our car, please come with us!” But the man declined. “I have faith that God will save me.”

As the man stood on his porch watching the water rise up the steps, a man in a canoe paddled by and called to him, “Hurry and come into my canoe, the waters are rising quickly!” But the man again said, “No thanks, God will save me.”

The floodwaters rose higher pouring water into his living room and the man had to retreat to the second floor. A police motorboat came by and saw him at the window. “We will come up and rescue you!” they shouted. But the man refused, waving them off saying, “Use your time to save someone else! I have faith that God will save me!”

The flood waters rose higher and higher and the man had to climb up to his rooftop.

A helicopter spotted him and dropped a rope ladder. A rescue officer came down the ladder and pleaded with the man, "Grab my hand and I will pull you up!" But the man STILL refused, folding his arms tightly to his body. “No thank you! God will save me!”

Shortly after, the house broke up and the floodwaters swept the man away and he drowned.

When in Heaven, the man stood before God and asked, “I put all of my faith in You. Why didn’t You come and save me?”

And God said, “Son, I sent you a warning. I sent you a car. I sent you a canoe. I sent you a motorboat. I sent you a helicopter. What more were you looking for?”
 
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If the act keeps happening, where is the help?
Did you READ what I already posted? I'll say it again - there's a possibility that He's making you stronger for some other purpose (Isaiah 48:10). The point, then, is simply that you have to get through it. It's like, "whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger". Just because you might not see the point right now doesn't mean there isn't one.
 
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He might stop them, He might not. Nobody can know that. He may be letting it happen because there's something you need to learn, or He's making you stronger for some other purpose
Yes, a good description, I think, of how God interacts with us.
 
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Then he should make the purpose clear to us in a way we can understand it or else it's just torture.
Or maybe you should have faith that there is a purpose whether or not you see it now.

Also if God is not going to teach the perpatrator a lesson, how will he learn?
Maybe let God deal with who He wants to, when He wants to, how He wants to.
 
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Or maybe you should have faith that there is a purpose whether or not you see it now.


Maybe let God deal with who He wants to, when He wants to, how He wants to.


We cant take things into our own hands but we are supposed to just sit there and take it? I know that is what Jesus did but we arent built like him.
 
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We cant take things into our own hands but we are supposed to just sit there and take it? I know that is what Jesus did but we arent built like him.
1 Corinthians 10:13
"No trial has overtaken you that is not faced by others. And God is faithful: He will not let you be tried beyond what you are able to bear, but with the trial will also provide a way out so that you may be able to endure it."
 
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Then he should make the purpose clear to us in a way we can understand it or else it's just torture.
We don't need to know why God does every smallest thing. It's beyond our ability to know. We should just pray for God's will and that people have good stuff in their lives.
 
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Also if God is not going to teach the perpatrator a lesson, how will he learn?
We don't know what God is doing in people's lives. Why should we care whether God wants them to learn from their mistakes or not?
 
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We don't know what God is doing in people's lives. Why should we care whether God wants them to learn from their mistakes or not?

So if they don't learn or there isn't any reason for them to stop their behaviour then they will think their maliciouness will continue
 
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Hi, Dee Dee :) Welcome to Christian Forums, and God bless you :) Already, people have said some good things.

It is wise, when reading God's word and hearing what is wise, that we do not just think up bad possibilities, but trust God.
So basically God will sit by and watch maliciousness being done even if that person is praying for His help in the matter?
This is possibly thinking up a bad possibility.

When I first come up with bad possibilities, I am my main problem.

You can read and feed on what happened with Joseph, in Genesis 37-50. He took advantage of a very bad situation. And often enough, for a while, he was not in a nice situation.

And Jesus constantly had people trying to bring Him down, bad-mouthing Him, certainly being really malicious. And they did not stop Jesus.

Then he should make the purpose clear to us in a way we can understand it or else it's just torture.
We can trust Him, so we are not depending on an explanation.

Also if God is not going to teach the perpatrator a lesson, how will he learn?
Hebrews 12:4-11 > if the perp is not a Christian . . . the person is not guaranteed God's correction. Make sure you actively seek God for howsoever He knows you need correction. I do not mean punishing and criticizing, but how Hebrews 12:4-11 guarantees that God's correction blesses all of us who are His children.

We cant take things into our own hands but we are supposed to just sit there and take it?
This seems like being swift to think up a bad possibility. And doing this can keep you from getting the good which God always is able to bring to you and others. Or, He might bring such good, but we can be unable to perceive and benefit from it.

We should just pray for God's will and that people have good stuff in their lives.
blessing, yes
 
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Hebrews 12:4-11 > if the perp is not a Christian . . . the person is not guaranteed God's correction. Make sure you actively seek God for howsoever He knows you need correction. I do not mean punishing and criticizing, but how Hebrews 12:4-11 guarantees that God's correction blesses all of us who are His children.

Does that mean they get a temporal punishment?


This seems like being swift to think up a bad possibility. And doing this can keep you from getting the good which God always is able to bring to you and others. Or, He might bring such good, but we can be unable to perceive and benefit from it.

blessing, yes[/QUOTE]
 
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If someone is doing something against you online (malicious intentions) that the police can't trace or don't have enough proof to charge the perpertrator and ofcourse we are not to take things into our own hands....will God step in and stop them or are we just out of luck? I know we all have free will but does that mean nothing can be done unless the individual decides to stop doing what he is doing?

Sometimes we are called to be martyrs even though we are not martyrs physically. By this I mean that others slander you for no reason at all, makes false accusations, verbally abuse you, emotionally abuse you and you end up saying nothing back. This is horrible state to be in. You are being crucified. For some people that seems to be their calling, a form of bearing the cross. I am not saying that that is your calling but such type of martyrdom does exist.
 
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