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Bible prophecy, of which you seem to be unaware, says all the Arab nations will be destroyed on the terrible Day of the Lord's wrath:
Thats at the end of time man. In the meantime the Arab rage whosoever live there.
 
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Scripture tells of a time when the land of Israel will be occupied by a peaceful and unsuspecting people living in safety without walls.

Ezekiel 38:11 You will say, "I will invade a land of unwalled villages; I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people--all of them living without walls and without gates and bars.

But the people living in the land of Israel today are not that people.The people living in Israel today are not peaceful ,nor do they live in safety ,and they intend to surround themselves with walls.

Israel's walled-in approach to nationhood

The kingdom shall be taken from these people and given to a peaceful and unsuspecting people who will live in safety without the use of walls.
These people need no weapons or walls because God will fight for them.Hence the name Israel.
The time you speak of is when Messiah reigns as King. THAT is when true peace comes to that Land. What is there now is a secular nation, not a nation that lives by faith under God's laws. But those people ARE part of "the people of God." They are not all of them, in fact they are a very small amount of them... but they are part of it. It simply isn't time to see what you expect to see.
 
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But those people ARE part of "the people of God."

1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.
1Jn 2:23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

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Why do you persistently ignore the Biblical truth of there being only one people of God, John 17:20-23, Ephesians 4:4-6 and as Christians our inheritance is to live in all of the holy Land. Ephesians 1:11-14, Romans 8:16-18, Psalms 37:29, +

You are so self centered you believe everything's about you.No keras,you will not be allowed tto live in the promised land before the return of Christ.
You can apply for citizenship but if your not Jewish you will not qualify under the right of return law.Youjusthave to realize.Not everything is about you.
 
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Scripture tells of a time when the land of Israel will be occupied by a peaceful and unsuspecting people living in safety without walls.

Ezekiel 38:11 You will say, "I will invade a land of unwalled villages; I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people--all of them living without walls and without gates and bars.

But the people living in the land of Israel today are not that people.The people living in Israel today are not peaceful ,nor do they live in safety ,and they intend to surround themselves with walls.

Israel's walled-in approach to nationhood

The kingdom shall be taken from these people and given to a peaceful and unsuspecting people who will live in safety without the use of walls.
These people need no weapons or walls because God will fight for them.Hence the name Israel.

I personally suspect that the near death experience account of former Atheist Howard Storm Ph. D. adds light to this.

Reverend Howard Storm's Near-Death Experience

Howard Storm's light being friends told him more about the new world to come. According to them, God wished to usher in the kingdom within the next two hundred years. In order to do so, God had rescinded some of the free will given to creatures, in favor of more divine control over human events. This new world order, according to Howard, will resemble some near-death descriptions of heaven. People will live in such peace and harmony and love that communication will be telepathic, travel instantaneous and the need for clothing and shelter eliminated. The lion will indeed lie down with the lamb.
 
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You are so self centered you believe everything's about you.No keras,you will not be allowed tto live in the promised land before the return of Christ.
You can apply for citizenship but if your not Jewish you will not qualify under the right of return law.Youjusthave to realize.Not everything is about you.
You are two faced, shilohsfoal.
You abuse me for presenting scriptures that tell how the Christians will occupy the holy Land, then present it yourself.
In no way do I wish to become a citizen of the State of Israel.
But I know that will be a citizen of Beulah, the new nation, from the Nile to the Euphrates. Isaiah 62:1-5, Amos 9:13-15
THAT is what we Christians look forward to, as the Lord blesses His people, living in peace and prosperity, as He always wanted but has never had.
 
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The land of Israel is not inherited by Christians until AFTER Christ has come.
That land was promised to Christ.
Until then the christians will be persecuted three s half years prior to Christ coming.
Then the kingdom, will be given to the saints.
Only the saints living in israrl will be persecuted in israrl.
 
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You are two faced, shilohsfoal.
You abuse me for presenting scriptures that tell how the Christians will occupy the holy Land, then present it yourself.
In no way do I wish to become a citizen of the State of Israel.
But I know that will be a citizen of Beulah, the new nation, from the Nile to the Euphrates. Isaiah 62:1-5, Amos 9:13-15
THAT is what we Christians look forward to, as the Lord blesses His people, living in peace and prosperity, as He always wanted but has never had.

Christians do not inherit the promised land from the euphrates to the nile until Christ comes and not before.It will,remain in the hands of the beast until then.And for three and a half years prior to Christ's coming,those saints who live in Israel will be persecuted.
That persecution has nothing to do withe you or anyone else outside of Israel .
That is the truth of the matter.
 
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That is the truth of the matter.
That is your opinion of the matter. An unbiblical guess made to suit a preconceived belief.

The question of who will inhabit the holy Land in the period before the Return of Jesus, is made clear by the following Bible passages;

Daniel 7:25 He [the Anti-Christ] will wear down the holy ones of God. He will change the feasts and the religious laws. The Lord’s holy people will be delivered into his power for 3½ years. [Those people, who stay in Beulah: Isaiah 62:1-5, will experience the Tribulation. Daniel 11:32]

Daniel 11:21-22....a despicable man, not recognised as a king, will come unexpectedly and seize the kingdom by intrigue. He will sweep all opposition before him and will kill a leader of the covenant people. [The leader of the One World Govt: the AC, will conquer Beulah, inhabited by every faithful Christian, and will kill one of their leaders.]

Daniel 11:29-35 At the appointed time, he will again invade the South, but ships of Kittim will oppose him. As he retreats, he will vent his fury against the covenant people. He will reward those who forsake their covenant with God. Troops in his command will stop the regular offering and set up ‘the abomination that causes desolation’. With flattery, he will corrupt those who have violated the covenant, but the people who are faithful to their God, will be resolute and take action.

Wise leaders of the nation will guide the people, though for a time, they will be taken captive and killed. Some help will come, albeit, not entirely sincere. Those leaders may become victims, so that they may be refined and purified, ready for the end of the age. Dan 12:3 The wise leaders, who have guided the people in the true path, will shine like stars, forever.

The Anti Christ invades some unidentified nations in Southern regions, but ships of Kittim [Cyprus – in the Mediterranean, but this is a reference to the Western nations] will stop him. He will then occupy the Holy Land, taking control and causing many of God’s people to obey him. Those who hold firm to their Covenant with God will be persecuted and some killed. This is in order to refine and purify them, ready for the Return of Jesus.

Zechariah 14:1-2 A Day is coming for the Lord to act and the plunder taken from you will be shared out while you stand by. I shall gather all the nations to make war on Jerusalem, the city will be taken, the houses ransacked and the women raped. Half of the people will go into exile, but the rest will stay there. Daniel 9:27

Verses 1 & 2 must refer to the midpoint of the 70th week. [7 year period] That commences the Great Tribulation, 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls. Then: from verse 3, the description is of the Return of Jesus.


Revelation 13:5-10 The Beast, [Anti-Christ] was given permission to continue for 42 months. [3½ years] He blasphemed against God and waged war on God’s people and defeated them, he was given authority over the whole earth. You have ears, so hear!
Those who are destined for prison, will be imprisoned, those to be killed will be killed. This calls for the endurance and faithfulness of God’s people.

Revelation 12:13-14 The dragon [Satan: the Beast] is thrown down to earth. He pursues the Woman [righteous Israel] who gave birth to the male child. [Jesus] But she is given the wings of the mighty eagle, so that she could fly to a place in the wilderness, where she is looked after for 3½ years.
Ref. REB, NIV. Verses abridged.


In Zechariah 14:2 it says that half of the population will go into exile, this obviously is the Woman [righteous Israel] referred to in Revelation, where they will be kept safe until the Return.

Then, in Matthew 24:31 – they will be gathered back into the Land, along with those Gentiles who have refused the mark of the Beast, to live with Christ for 1000 years.

The other half of the population who remain in the Land, will suffer under the yoke of the Anti-Christ. They are the Lord’s Christian people, who have to face testing and refinement. Daniel 11:32-33, Revelation 14:12, 2 Esdras 13:47-50, Revelation 7:14....they have passed through the great ordeal.... It is these people who will say to Jesus: “Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord”.


So, who are those living in the Land of Israel before and during the Tribulation?

They are the Lord’s people, all the true believers plus the descendants of Jacob, regathered, in order to fulfil God’s promises to the Patriarchs, to be His witnesses and to provide a ‘light to the nations’.

It is quite evident, from Bible study, that the next prophesied event will cause a dramatic clearance of peoples from all the Middle East area. Jeremiah 10:18 This will enable His people to emigrate there, all faithful Christians, from every nation and language, and to live there in peace and prosperity. Ezekiel 34:11-31, Isaiah 11:11-13. They will rebuild the Temple and reinstitute the Law and the ordinances. Zechariah 6:15, Ezekiel 43:1-12.

All the rest of the world will be under a One World Government, initially ruled by 10 leaders, but soon to be taken over by another strong leader. He will rule until the Return of Jesus, when he will be chained up for the 1000 years.
 
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You Dont even know who Daniel 11:21 is.You have slept though nearly the whole chapter not knowing the prophecies have been coming to pass.

Sleep on sleeping beauty.
Perhaps someday you will awaken and realize the truth.
 
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Scripture tells of a time when the land of Israel will be occupied by a peaceful and unsuspecting people living in safety without walls.

Ezekiel 38:11 You will say, "I will invade a land of unwalled villages; I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people--all of them living without walls and without gates and bars.

But the people living in the land of Israel today are not that people.The people living in Israel today are not peaceful ,nor do they live in safety ,and they intend to surround themselves with walls.

Israel's walled-in approach to nationhood

The kingdom shall be taken from these people and given to a peaceful and unsuspecting people who will live in safety without the use of walls.
These people need no weapons or walls because God will fight for them.Hence the name Israel.
The heirs or children of God are those in Christ. They are ONE. Neither Jew nor Gentile, male or female. The same Spirit is poured out to all. The gathering will be by Jesus on the last day. He will gather His own from the ends of the heavens into a kingdom that has no end and can never be destroyed. Given by God to those that love Him. And the Fathers will is to believe on the one He sent. And those who listen and learn from the Father will go to the Son and Jesus will raise them up on the last day in keeping with His Fathers will. Flesh and blood can't inherit eternity.
 
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Scripture tells of a time when the land of Israel will be occupied by a peaceful and unsuspecting people living in safety without walls.

Ezekiel 38:11 You will say, "I will invade a land of unwalled villages; I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people--all of them living without walls and without gates and bars.

But the people living in the land of Israel today are not that people.The people living in Israel today are not peaceful ,nor do they live in safety ,and they intend to surround themselves with walls.

Israel's walled-in approach to nationhood

The kingdom shall be taken from these people and given to a peaceful and unsuspecting people who will live in safety without the use of walls.
These people need no weapons or walls because God will fight for them.Hence the name Israel.
No, really. This is the Israel today you are addressing and you're coming up short.

Your timing is off by a few....

Days?
Weeks?
Months?
Years?
Decades?
Generations?

At least.
 
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No, really. This is the Israel today you are addressing and you're coming up short.

Your timing is off by a few....

Days?
Weeks?
Months?
Years?
Decades?
Generations?

At least.

Not the same goverment.
And a completely different mentality.
As of now,an Antichrist govetment is calling the shots.Building walls.Guns,missiles.nukes.
The people who willbeliving in Israel when Gog invades will had,been living in peace for 1000 years and they have nothing to fear for God is with them.

I would call it a different generation.
 
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Not the same goverment.
And a completely different mentality.
As of now,an Antichrist govetment is calling the shots.Building walls.Guns,missiles.nukes.
The people who willbeliving in Israel when Gog invades will had,been living in peace for 1000 years and they have nothing to fear for God is with them.

I would call it a different generation.
God knows the end from the beginning BECAUSE He ordained the end.

God's plan.

For Israel.

Hasn't changed.
 
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Scripture tells of a time when the land of Israel will be occupied by a peaceful and unsuspecting people living in safety without walls.

Ezekiel 38:11 You will say, "I will invade a land of unwalled villages; I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people--all of them living without walls and without gates and bars.

But the people living in the land of Israel today are not that people.The people living in Israel today are not peaceful ,nor do they live in safety ,and they intend to surround themselves with walls.

Israel's walled-in approach to nationhood

The kingdom shall be taken from these people and given to a peaceful and unsuspecting people who will live in safety without the use of walls.
These people need no weapons or walls because God will fight for them.Hence the name Israel.
I've read many different interpretations of this, and NONE of them interpret it as being about our time.
 
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