As Paul gave instruction about this -
- One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind.
One person esteems
one day above another; another esteems every day
alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes
it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe
it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks. 7 For none of us lives to himself, and no one dies to himself. 8 For if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s. 9 For to this end Christ died and rose and lived again, that He might be Lord of both the dead and the living. 10 But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. Romans 14:5-10 JLB
Now here you go JBL, as I said earliey, you were never here to learn about the Sabbath as you claimed previously to someone else were you?
Where in God's WORD does it say God's 4th Commandment is ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a HOLY DAY?
I think we are still waiting for you to reply to a mountain of scripture that disagrees with your teachiing? I know you will not reply to any scripture posted to you. It is ok these are between you and God.
Now your quoting Romans 14 for your defence of breaking God's 4th Commandment. Where does it say in Romans 14 that it is talking about God's 4th Commandment? Are you reading something into the scriptures?
Romans 14
1, Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
The first thing we see here is that this chapter is about relating to a weak brother.
2, For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
3, Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
4, Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
Now to the meat and potatoes…
5, One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
6, He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
Why is eating and fasting (not eating) connected to days here?
Let’s see…...............
(6), He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
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Isaiah 58
5, Is it such a fast that I have chosen? a day for a man to afflict his soul? is it to bow down his head as a bulrush, and to spread sackcloth and ashes under him? wilt thou call this a fast,
and an acceptable day to the LORD?
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Luke 18
11, The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
12, I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
From Bullingers Companion Bible…........
Luke 18:12
Twice in the week. The law prescribed only one in the year (Lev_16:29. Num_29:7). By the time of Zec_8:19 there were four yearly fasts. In our Lord's day they were bi-weekly (Monday and Thursday), between Passover and Pentecost; and between the Feast of Tabernacles and the Dedication.
Yes they fasted sometimes two days a week and also annually in the feasts of
Lev 23.
7, For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.
8, For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.
9, For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
10, But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother?
for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
11, For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
12, So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
13, Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.
14, I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing
unclean <ceremonially profaned, defiled or unholy>
of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean<ceremonially profaned, defiled or unholy>
, to him it is unclean.
Note;
v14, In Romans 14 Paul uses the word
koinos, which means “common” (W.E. Vine,
Vine’s Complete Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words, 1985, “Unclean,” p. 649). In addition to the meanings of “common” and “ordinary,” as used in English (Acts 2:44; Acts 4:32; Titus 1:4; Hebrews 10:29; Jude 1:3), the word also applied to things considered
polluted or defiled. This word, along with its verb form
koinoo, is used in Mark 7:2-23, where it obviously refers to ceremonial uncleanness in the incident when the disciples ate without having first washed their hands.
Through a concordance or similar Bible help you can verify that
koinos and
koinoo appear throughout the New Testament to refer to this kind of
ceremonial uncleanness. Something could be “common”—ceremonially unclean—even though it was otherwise considered a clean meat.
An entirely different word,
akathartos, is used in the New Testament for animals Scripture specifies as unclean. In the Septuagint (the Greek translation of the Old Testament in wide use in Paul’s day),
akathartos is used to designate the unclean meats listed in Leviticus 11 and Deuteronomy 14.
Both words,
koinos and
akathartos, are used in Acts 10 in describing Peter’s vision of the sheet filled with “all kinds of four-footed animals of the earth, wild beasts, creeping things, and birds of the air” (Acts 10:12), both clean and unclean. Peter himself distinguished between the two concepts of uncleanness by using both words in Acts 10:14. After a voice told Peter to “kill and eat,” he replied, “I have never eaten anything common [
koinos ] or unclean [
akathartos ].” Most Bible translations distinguish between the meanings of the two words used here. Peter used the same terminology in Acts 10:28 and Acts 11:8 in discussing this vision.
When Paul said in Romans 14:14 that “there is nothing unclean [
koinos, or ‘common’] of itself,” he was making the same point he had made earlier to the Corinthians, : Just because meat that was otherwise lawful to eat may have been associated with idol worship does not mean it is intrinsically unfit for human consumption. As seen from the context, Paul wasn’t discussing biblical dietary restrictions at all.
Paul goes on to state in Romans 14:20 that “all food is clean” (New International Version). The word translated “clean” is
katharos, “free from impure admixture, without blemish, spotless” (Vine, “Clean, Cleanness, Cleanse, Cleansing,” p. 103). Clean meats as such aren’t addressed in the New Testament, so there isn’t a specific word to describe them.
Katharos is used to describe all kinds of cleanliness and purity, including clean dishes (Matthew 23:26), people (John 13:10) and clothing (Revelation 15:6; Revelation 19:8-14), “pure” religion (James 1:27), gold and glass (Revelation 21:18).
Realize also that, in both Romans 14:14 and Romans 14:20, the word
food or
meat isn’t in the original wording. No specific object is mentioned relative to cleanness or uncleanness. The sense of these verses is merely that “nothing [is] unclean [
koinos: common or ceremonially defiled] of itself,” and “all is clean [
katharos: free from impure admixture, without blemish, spotless].”
Paul’s point is that the possible association of a particular food with idolatrous activity had no bearing on whether the food was suitable for eating.
15, But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died.
Some points to consider in
Romans 14:1-15............
1. The chapter is talking about a number of related topics
2. Overall it is talking about
not juding those who are weak in the faith in relation to
food connected to days or days dedicated to the Lord and that is all it is talking about.
3. Food connected to days in usually in relation to the annual festivals or fasting connected to weekly or Holy days unto the Lord (
Lev 16:29.
Num 29:7; Issaiah 58:5;
Luke 18:11-12).
4. There is
no mention of the Sabbath or God's 4th commandment in this chapter or the entire book of Romans.
5. Romans 14 is not talking about ABOLISHING ANY DAYS but only talking about
judging others in relation to food or fasting connected to days dedicated to the LORD and food offered to idols.
6. The Chapter is consistant with all the other writing of Paul in relation to the jewish annual holy days fulfilled in Christ (eg, Colossains 2;
Ephesians 2; Galatains 4:10;
Hebrews 9:9-15;
10:1-17).
7. Paul's topics is summarised in v17; For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
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CONCLUSION: It is very clear from reading the scriptures that this whole Chapter has nothing whatsoever at all to do with the 4th commandment which is to keep Holy the 7th day Sabbath but is talking about judging others in relation to food, eating and fasting connected to holy days; eating and not eating.
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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (
James 2:9-11;
Romans 7:7;
1 John 3:4)
Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.
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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (
Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (
James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (
Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (
Matthew 15:3-9)
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
Pproblem is Moses said they didn't in Deuteronomy 5:3.
