I´m so angry...travel ban for Iranians...Why?

Darioush · Apr 28, 2018

Micah888 said:
Yes, Persians are not Arabs (as a lot of Westerners think). But the ban is to stop murder and mayhem of innocents in the West, not because of your religion. By the same token the Koran teaches endless Jihad against Christians and Jews. So terrorism stems from Islam, whether you wish to admit it or not.

I want take part in a competition and see if i can get some sponsorship. Thats all i want. No murder.

KarateCowboy · Apr 28, 2018

Darioush said:
This is because Iran is an independend nation, that does not go on its knees but stands for its own people. USA wants slaves and not friends. In Syria USA wanted help their terror friends Saudi Arabia and install an islamist regime. Too bad Iran and Russia stepped in and destroyed the american plans.

Thats the reason why USA is angry.

You have to change. We will not go away. We too have the right to participate in the world. And you can´t discriminate an entire nation forever.

For me personal this means a big loss, because i cant compete there, i wont get sponsorships and contracts.

This does not help your cause. Talk like this makes us happy we have the ban.

Darioush · Apr 28, 2018

Kenny'sID said:
You're angry because you don't get what you want. I understand your disappointment but we must protect ourselves, just as you would if you thought there was any chance of someone murdering your own, and nothing you have brought up so far is good reason for us not to protect ourselves..

You believe im a murderer. Do you know what it means to say this?

Darioush · Apr 28, 2018

KarateCowboy said:
This does not help your cause. Talk like this makes us happy we have the ban.

So you are happy that i cant compete and make some contracts?

Sanoy · Apr 28, 2018

I don't know whats going on between our countries. All I know is you're my brother and it is our loss that we cannot fellowship as brothers. You seem like a really cool person, I'd love to go to Iran sometime.

Kenny'sID · Apr 28, 2018

Darioush said:
You believe im a murderer. Do you know what it means to say this?

Are you joking?

Do you know what it means to wrongly accuse someone of that?

KarateCowboy · Apr 28, 2018

Darioush said:
So you are happy that i cant compete and make some contracts?

Of course; I don't want foreigners who slander my nation getting wealthy off it.

Darioush · Apr 28, 2018

Kenny'sID said:
Are you joking?

Do you know what it means to wrongly accuse someone of that?

You said your country cant let me visit because i might be a murderer. Thats what you said.

What else reason do you have?

I would go, have my competitions, look if i get some business, stuff my belly with food, have fun and leave back home after 3 weeks.

Darioush · Apr 28, 2018

KarateCowboy said:
Of course; I don't want foreigners who slander my nation getting wealthy off it.

I train hard and put much effort into it. So what? I need a visa till june or the competition will be over.

Saucy · Apr 28, 2018

Darioush said:
Al Qaeda? You believe we fund our largest enemy? Al Quaeda is funded by your allied Saudi Arabia, we hunt and kill them.

Why do you lie about us? Does your god allow that?

No but yours does. What is your point here? To trash America and pretend like Iran is innocent? It's not.

And to blame Trump is pure idiocy, as EVERY president implemented bans for one reason or another. Obama did. Clinton did. Bush did. Carter did.

Abraxos · Apr 28, 2018

expos4ever said:
Many Americans have bought into Donald Trump's dark, insultingly simplistic, "us vs them" narrative. This thinking is energized by the racism that has bubbled along in American society.

Here's the thing: one can, as I do, have grave reservations about the ideology of fundamentalist Islam (I have similar reservations about fundamentalist Christianity) and yet recognize what should be stunningly obvious: the way to deal with one's concerns about a particular ideology is to engage in responsible, adult dialog in an attempt to induce reform.

To put up walls, whether physical or in the form of travel bans, simply pours fuel on the fire. How Mr, Trump's base cannot, or more likely, will not, see this is profoundly frightening.

I don't know. America under Obama had eight years of just talking and that resulted in nothing. Probably that is why liberals are often viewed as do-nothings. What's more talk going to accomplish?

Trump is certainly more assertive on the world stage which may come across as scary for the left not used to actual action being done. For example, I think North Korea would never have amounted to holding hands with South Korea if it had not being for the brashness of Trump.
I just don't see the logic behind whining about Trump wanting to secure America's borders. People do not lock their houses because they hate outsiders, they lock their houses because they care for those inside, right?

Kenny'sID · Apr 28, 2018

Darioush said:
You said your country cant let me visit because i might be a murderer. Thats what you said.

What else reason do you have?

I would go, have my competitions, look if i get some business, stuff my belly with food, have fun and leave back home after 3 weeks.

Show me where I said that.

Also, you force me to say, you are being very selfish here making this all about you.

Radagast · Apr 28, 2018

Darioush said:
And where i come from, we are not racist like you.

What grounds have you got for calling people from New Zealand racist?

SolomonVII · Apr 28, 2018

Darioush said:
Is this a joke?

The most repressive regime is Saudi Arabia. And tehy are your friends? almost all hijackers from 911 were Saudi.

Assad is the only guarantee that christians can live in Syria. USA supports sunni islamist terror groups in Syria.

Iran protects Christians in Syria. USA supports Sunni extremists who kill Christians.

Dont you see whats wrong with your countries politics?

I can criticize the American government for this. In fact many do. You can too.
I can also criticize the Iranian government for being the largest state sponsor of terrorism, or mostly just for the theocratic nonsense it has foisted upon the world. Can you?

I don't blame you for not talking about that though. Green Revolution and what happened to those critics must be fresh on your mind.

Saudi Arabia government has found it in their interests to maintain a relationship with the American government, diplomats and cooperation and all that. Iranian government has considered it a better policy to attack the American embassy and shut down all those communications that make global travel possible.

You are who you are because you say so. That is all the information that is possible when governments stop cooperating with each other in order to regulate trans border crossings.

There are consequences to being a citizen of a rogue country that does not play by the rules which allow the global travel that most of us enjoy. It really must suck not to be able to enjoy all the pleasures and opportunities that America has to offer to the traveler.
Of course the only ones who want to go the other way to Iran are Iranians enjoying the good life in the West who want to visit their families back home on occasion.

Darioush · Apr 28, 2018

SolomonVII said:
I can criticize the American government for this. In fact many do. You can too.
I can also criticize the Iranian government for being the largest state sponsor of terrorism, or mostly just for the theocratic nonsense it has foisted upon the world. Can you?

I don't blame you for not talking about that though. Green Revolution and what happened to those critics must be fresh on your mind.

Saudi Arabia government has found it in their interests to maintain a relationship with the American government, diplomats and cooperation and all that. Iranian government has considered it a better policy to attack the American embassy and shut down all those communications that make global travel possible.

You are who you are because you say so. That is all the information that is possible when governments stop cooperating with each other in order to regulate trans border crossings.

There are consequences to being a citizen of a rogue country that does not play by the rules which allow the global travel that most of us enjoy. It really must suck not to be able to enjoy all the pleasures and opportunities that America has to offer to the traveler.
Of course the only ones who want to go the other way to Iran are Iranians enjoying the good life in the West who want to visit their families back home on occasion.

This "biggest terror sponsor" sounds funny for Iranians, when Saudi Arabia infact sponsors more terror groups than any other country. USA also sponsors hundreds of terror groups. You call them "rebels". That your "rebels" are mostly terrorists? You dont care.

The US embassy? Was shut down in Iran, because it was a spy house and had spnsored and orchestrated a coup.

USA loses more and more global influence. China is rising as new world power. The EU does not follow you anymore.

If you believe it helps your cause to act like Nazis, then thats your decission. But your repression against Iran only weakens your position.

Darioush · Apr 28, 2018

Kenny'sID said:
Show me where I said that.

Also, you force me to say, you are being very selfish here making this all about you.

You said Iranians should not be allowed to travel USA because they might be murderers.

And im selfish? Of course i'm. Im a human, thats how humans are.

If you believe its good,for you to make the most modern country in middle east your enemy and treat its citizens like criminals.

Radagast · Apr 29, 2018

Darioush said:
The US embassy? Was shut down in Iran, because it was a spy house

Unfortunately, attacks on diplomats tend to make diplomatic solutions to tensions difficult.

Darioush · Apr 29, 2018

Radagast said:
Unfortunately, attacks on diplomats tend to make diplomatic solutions to tensions difficult.

How else should it have been prevented that usa starts a new coup?

Beside that, this happened long before i was born.

Also what diplomatic solution? How convince USA that its nazi politics against iranians are wrong?

TerranceL · Apr 29, 2018

Darioush said:
And where i come from, we are not racist like you.

But your not from where you claim to be from.

I did an image search using the pictures you've provided and claim are you.

I didn't get an iranian. I got a guy on guy on Instagram who says he's an egyptian living in kuwait.

But maybe I got it wrong.

Luckily you provided more pictures, like the one on page three. So I ran a free face recognition app from Microsoft.

Same person.
Hany saeed (@djhany) • Instagram photos and videos

So why are you claiming to be an iranian and using the picture of an egyptian?

This is why you don't play these sorts of games using pictures. Too easy to be found out.

Radagast · Apr 29, 2018

TerranceL said:
Luckily you provided more pictures, like the one on page three. So I ran a free face recognition app from Microsoft.

Nice, though slightly scary, detective work.

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