I´m so angry...travel ban for Iranians...Why?

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I get it, and for you personally it's not fair, but don't blame USA. You say you let USA into your country, but what has USA done for you to keep them out? Nothing.



I don't hate you or Iran, I do hate people getting murdered in the USA or other countries by Iranians who have proven that to be a fact. I hate murderers.

Please put the blame where it should be....not on you, not on USA, not on Iran, but on bad people from Iran. Good people often suffer when bad people do bad things, and in this case it has affected your life substantially ...I'm sorry.

When and who did Iran murder in USA?
 
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You do evil against us. Sanctions, you do terror against Iran. You murder Iranians and even shot down civilian iranian aircraft.
Let's just focus on all the evil that Iran has done around the world since Khomeini called America "the Great Satan" and vowed to destroy Israel about 50 years ago.

This is not about the fine people of Iran (who are helpless victims). It is about the Satanic and demonic religious leaders who do evil in the name of religion. So if they want to send subversives and terrorists to the West, the ban is perfectly legitimate. If the positions were reversed, you would do the same to protect your home and your loved ones.
 
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When and who did Iran murder in USA?

I didn't say they murdered anyone here at any time. I don't care where they do it, that's not the point, the point is they do, and we don't want to take any changes.

You're thinking in terms we are punishing Iran for something they did to us, by keeping Iranians out. That is not what we're doing, we are keeping them out because of the few that may do murder here..

The logic? If they will murder in other countries, they may murder here.
 
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This is really bad. USA has a travel ban on Iranians and this is such an insult against us.

I do bodybuilding and i won many competitions in Iran last year and this year wanted also participate in a competition in USA and win first time outside Iran and maybe get sponsorship. But i get no visa. So i cant travel there.

We Iranians get treated like criminals and thugs.

We allow americans here and have many american travel groups. But we are banned. USA is very bad against us. And i´m so angry right now.

Your country should stop to hate Iran. And it should treat us as normal people.
Short answer is that the U.S. has an idiot in charge. Sorry to hear of your plight.
 
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I didn't say they murdered anyone here at any time. I don't care where they do it, that's not the point, the point is they do, and we don't want to take any changes.

You're thinking in terms we are punishing Iran for something they did to us, by keeping Iranians out. That is not what we're doing, we are keeping them out because of the few that may do murder here..

The logic? If they will murder in other countries, they may murder here.

Are you joking?

Do i look like murderer for you?

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What some say here is absolute crazy.

So you dont want me in USA because i might be a murderer?

The murder rate in USA is 21 times higher than in Iran.
 
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Are you joking?

Do i look like murderer for you?

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What some say here is absolute crazy.

So you dont want me in USA because i might be a murderer?

The murder rate in USA is 21 times higher than in Iran.

You either don't understand what I'm saying or you aren't listening.

I have never said you would murder anyone, and never even thought it.

The Iranian murder rate is completely irrelevant, just as ours it.

What is Iranian terrorism rate compared to the USA?

You are paying attention to something not important/or at all relevant, while missing the things that are.
 
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Iran is one of those weird nations, Persian by history, taken over by a foreign Arab religion. They quietly fight this religion and get around it in small ways for a time (60s & 70s), yet Islam rises up and is worse off with it's oppression to sexual minorities and women. Until they sort out their priorities with the Mullahs, Iran will remain a country at war within itself, and socially be a detriment to western ideology. It doesn't help when the ignorance of privileged liberals are painfully apologetic to Islamic traditions.
 
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You either don't understand what I'm saying or you aren't listening.

I have never said you would murder anyone, and never even thought it.

The Iranian murder rate is completely irrelevant, just as ours it.

What is Iranian terrorism rate compared to the USA?

You are paying attention to something not important/or at all relevant, while missing the things that are.

Tell me iranian terrorism. Name me an ieanian terror attack in last 10 years. Just one
 
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Iran is one of those weird nations, Persian by history, taken over by a foreign Arab religion. They quietly fight this religion and get around it in small ways for a time (60s & 70s), yet Islam rises up and is worse off with it's oppression to sexual minorities and women. Until they sort out their priorities with the Mullahs, Iran will remain a country at war within itself, and socially be a detriment to western ideology. It doesn't help when the ignorance of privileged liberals are painfully apologetic to Islamic traditions.

Says a person that throws insult names on others.
 
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Says a person that throws insult names on others.
...Where I come from kiddo, 'fella' is common talk. Piece of advice for the future, I suggest you grow a thick skin on the internet, because if you find that offensive, you may become another statistic.
 
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...Where I come from kiddo, 'fella' is common talk. Piece of advice for the future, I suggest you grow a thick skin on the internet, because if you find that offensive, you may become another statistic.

And where i come from, we are not racist like you.
 
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And where i come from, we are not racist like you.
Islam isn't a race, it's an ideology and quite a destructive one at that.

If that is what you meant judging by your broken English.
 
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Are such things really said in your media? wow.
Many Americans have bought into Donald Trump's dark, insultingly simplistic, "us vs them" narrative. This thinking is energized by the racism that has bubbled along in American society.

Here's the thing: one can, as I do, have grave reservations about the ideology of fundamentalist Islam (I have similar reservations about fundamentalist Christianity) and yet recognize what should be stunningly obvious: the way to deal with one's concerns about a particular ideology is to engage in responsible, adult dialog in an attempt to induce reform.

To put up walls, whether physical or in the form of travel bans, simply pours fuel on the fire. How Mr, Trump's base cannot, or more likely, will not, see this is profoundly frightening.
 
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@Darioush: Our government is mad at your government, and ordinary citizens like you get caught in the crossfire. I'm sorry. I know some of my Iranian colleagues at work had challenges getting their visas; it's a tough time for travel right now.

The relationship between our two countries has had a difficult history, as we swung back and forth between being allies and being enemies over the last 50+ years. It's not fair to ordinary Iranians like you who are just trying to live your lives. I hope our countries can work towards a more cordial and respectful relationship in the future. I'm trying to do what I can in my country.
 
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Islam isn't a race, it's an ideology and quite a destructive one at that.

If that is what you meant judging by your broken English.

Iranian is a race. And you ban us on ethnicity. Not religion.
 
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Is this a joke?

The most repressive regime is Saudi Arabia. And tehy are your friends? almost all hijackers from 911 were Saudi.

Assad is the only guarantee that christians can live in Syria. USA supports sunni islamist terror groups in Syria.

Iran protects Christians in Syria. USA supports Sunni extremists who kill Christians.

Dont you see whats wrong with your countries politics?

Are you trying to understand why the West has been taught not to like Iran, or are you trying to get people to realize hypocrisy in the US government?

If it is the latter, not even America's own people can do this. If it is the former, you should know that programming and propoganda is often done in other countries, especially if the nation has their own dirt to hide.
 
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It's not intended as personal against people like yourself or others who intend us no harm. Sadly, some are quite intent on violence against the West and don't mind killing themselves to make their point.
And let's face it. Iran has been THE MAJOR sponsor of state-sponsored terrorism worldwide. Iran has been a "rogue state" for decades.

They probably have hundreds or thousands of "sleepers" in the West waiting to wreak murder, mayhem, and vengeance on the decadent Western infidels at the behest of the Ayotollahs.

The sad thing is that Obama actually encouraged these evil men by handing them almost 2 billion dollars to support Hamas, Hezbollah, Al-Qaeda, and who know how many other Radical Muslim terrorists worldwide.
 
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Iranian is a race. And you ban us on ethnicity. Not religion.
Yes, Persians are not Arabs (as a lot of Westerners think). But the ban is to stop murder and mayhem of innocents in the West, not because of your religion. By the same token the Koran teaches endless Jihad against Christians and Jews. So terrorism stems from Islam, whether you wish to admit it or not.
 
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And let's face it. Iran has been THE MAJOR sponsor of state-sponsored terrorism worldwide. Iran has been a "rogue state" for decades.

They probably have hundreds or thousands of "sleepers" in the West waiting to wreak murder, mayhem, and vengeance on the decadent Western infidels at the behest of the Ayotollahs.

The sad thing is that Obama actually encouraged these evil men by handing them almost 2 billion dollars to support Hamas, Hezbollah, Al-Qaeda, and who know how many other Radical Muslim terrorists worldwide.

Al Qaeda? You believe we fund our largest enemy? Al Quaeda is funded by your allied Saudi Arabia, we hunt and kill them.

Why do you lie about us? Does your god allow that?
 
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Tell me iranian terrorism. Name me an ieanian terror attack in last 10 years. Just one


You're angry because you don't get what you want. I understand your disappointment but we must protect ourselves, just as you would if you thought there was any chance of someone murdering your own, and nothing you have brought up so far is good reason for us not to protect ourselves..
 
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