doubt regarding third temple please answer

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I'm tired of your red army troll lies. Hopefully God is too.

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I'm neither Russian or Communist. In fact I am fairly far right wing.

Since you couldn't provide sources, and have the need to personally attack me, I'm going to take it that you don't actually have an argument here. Which is kind of what I assumed in the first place, and that you are in fact, just bigoted against Russians.
 
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Since you couldn't provide sources, and have the need to personally attack me, I'm going to take it that you don't actually have an argument here. Which is kind of what I assumed in the first place, and that you are in fact, just bigoted against Russians.


You are a piece of work... and I know who made you.


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These are the same records that are referred to in Ezra 4:15, 19 and 5:17-6:7. These passages tell how the Jews of the fifth century BC 538 BC–457 BC overcame opposition by the local Persian governor to the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem by referring to these same Assyrian cuneiform court records.


First of all... 538BC is the 6th Century BC around the date Cyrus conquered Babylon.

Second, Per Ezra 1, it was Cyrus who first decreed a portion of Israelites return to Jerusalem to rebuild the temple.

Third, it was NOT Persians who opposed the rebuilding of the temple. Edomites had moved into Judea while the Israelites were in Babylonian captivity and Edom would have opposed the return of Israelites and the rebuilding of the temple. Cyrus' son and heir spent much of his time conquering Egypt which would explain why any petition from Israelites was unanswered. Cyrus' son died and an evil impostor usurped the Persian throne for several months. During that time he ordered many temples closed. He would have been the likely one to have stopped the rebuilding of the temple in Jerusalem.

Fourth, it was Cyrus' son-in-law, Darius the Great, who exposed and killed the evil impostor. It is recorded in secular history that Persians massacred the evil impostor's "followers of the lie." This is likely to be the massacre symbolized in the parable of Esther [Esther-Hadassah being Cyrus' daughter, Atossa, wife of Darius the Great]... which means the impostor [symbolized by Haman] was an Edomite. Darius the Great decreed the completion of the temple in Jerusalem in the 6th century BC.


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You are a piece of work... and I know who made you.


You posted:

These are the same records that are referred to in Ezra 4:15, 19 and 5:17-6:7. These passages tell how the Jews of the fifth century BC 538 BC–457 BC overcame opposition by the local Persian governor to the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem by referring to these same Assyrian cuneiform court records.


First of all... 538BC is the 6th Century BC around the date Cyrus conquered Babylon.

Second, Per Ezra 1, it was Cyrus who first decreed a portion of Israelites return to Jerusalem to rebuild the temple.

Third, it was NOT Persians who opposed the rebuilding of the temple. Edomites had moved into Judea while the Israelites were in Babylonian captivity and Edom would have opposed the return of Israelites and the rebuilding of the temple. Cyrus' son and heir spent much of his time conquering Egypt which would explain why any petition from Israelites was unanswered. Cyrus' son died and an evil impostor usurped the Persian throne for several months. During that time he ordered many temples closed. He would have been the likely one to have stopped the rebuilding of the temple in Jerusalem.

Fourth, it was Cyrus' son-in-law, Darius the Great, who exposed and killed the evil impostor. It is recorded in secular history that Persians massacred the evil impostor's "followers of the lie." This is likely to be the massacre symbolized in the parable of Esther [Esther-Hadassah being Cyrus' daughter, Atossa, wife of Darius the Great... which means the impostor [symbolized by Haman] was an Edomite. Darius the Great decreed the completion of the temple in Jerusalem in the 6th century BC.


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First, I'm having difficulty understanding where you were going with all that.

Secondly, I'm very curious as to who you think made me?
 
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First, I can't even understand what your point is with all that.

Secondly, I'm very curious as to who you think made me?


I am not surprised you can't understand it. What I posted is Biblical and secular Persian history along with my own personal insights about both [ I have been a student of Bible related Persian history for many years.]

It's obvious to me you are one of Putin's infamous red army trolls who are paid to invade forums and
post Putin's propaganda.... or maybe you just do it for free.

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I am not surprised you can't understand it. What I posted is Biblical and secular Persian history along with my own personal insights about both [ I have been a student of Bible related Persian history for many years.]

It's obvious to me you are one of Putin's infamous red army trolls who are paid to invade forums and
post Putin's propaganda.... or maybe you just do it for free.

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Ahh yes. YOU'VE CAUGHT ME COMRAD. I almost managed to fool you capitalist pigs into thinking Russia was good guy.

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA


I'm an Irish American from North Carolina.
 
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Ahh yes. YOU'VE CAUGHT ME COMRAD. I almost managed to fool you capitalist pigs into thinking Russia was good guy.

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA


I'm an Irish American from North Carolina.


If that is true, then you are one of Putin's fools who willingly spreads his Bolshevik propaganda for free.

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If that is true, then you are one of Putin's fools who willingly spreads his Bolshevik propaganda for free.

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Disagreeing with your opinion does not equate spreading Bolshevik propaganda. In fact it is offensive you would even accuse me of that as the Bolsheviks wiped out a major portion of my Orthodox Brothers.
 
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You are a piece of work... and I know who made you.


You posted:

These are the same records that are referred to in Ezra 4:15, 19 and 5:17-6:7. These passages tell how the Jews of the fifth century BC 538 BC–457 BC overcame opposition by the local Persian governor to the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem by referring to these same Assyrian cuneiform court records.


First of all... 538BC is the 6th Century BC around the date Cyrus conquered Babylon.

Second, Per Ezra 1, it was Cyrus who first decreed a portion of Israelites return to Jerusalem to rebuild the temple.

Third, it was NOT Persians who opposed the rebuilding of the temple. Edomites had moved into Judea while the Israelites were in Babylonian captivity and Edom would have opposed the return of Israelites and the rebuilding of the temple. Cyrus' son and heir spent much of his time conquering Egypt which would explain why any petition from Israelites was unanswered. Cyrus' son died and an evil impostor usurped the Persian throne for several months. During that time he ordered many temples closed. He would have been the likely one to have stopped the rebuilding of the temple in Jerusalem.

Fourth, it was Cyrus' son-in-law, Darius the Great, who exposed and killed the evil impostor. It is recorded in secular history that Persians massacred the evil impostor's "followers of the lie." This is likely to be the massacre symbolized in the parable of Esther [Esther-Hadassah being Cyrus' daughter, Atossa, wife of Darius the Great]... which means the impostor [symbolized by Haman] was an Edomite. Darius the Great decreed the completion of the temple in Jerusalem in the 6th century BC.


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Btw... in Ezra 6:12 Darius placed a curse on any king or people who would destroy the rebuilt temple.


May the God who has caused his name to dwell there overthrow any king or people who shall put out a hand to alter this, or to destroy this house of God that is in Jerusalem. I Darius make a decree; let it be done with all diligence.


When Edomite-jew Herod destroyed Cyrus' second temple to rebuild his own third temple, he fell under Darius' curse. Both the Edomite-jew Herod dynasty and Herod's temple had bit the dust by the end of the first century.

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Disagreeing with your opinion does not equate spreading Bolshevik propaganda. In fact it is offensive you would even accuse me of that as the Bolsheviks wiped out a major portion of my Orthodox Brothers.


If that is true, then you are delusional for supporting Putin who praises and promotes those antichrists

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If that is true, then you are delusional for supporting Putin who praises and promotes those antichrists

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Considering he has given a large funding to rebuilding the Churches that the soviets destroyed, and the core of Bolshevik doctrine is to enforce state atheism, I kind of doubt it.

 
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Considering he has given a large funding to rebuilding the Churches that the soviets destroyed, and the core of Bolshevik doctrine is to enforce state atheism, I kind of doubt it.


There you go again... with your red army troll song and dance.

The Church of Christ the Saviour was rebuilt before Putin came to power. Ironically, every May 9th Putin praises, promotes and celebrates Stalin [the evil antichrist Bolshevik who ordered that church destroyed and tried to also destroy iconic St Basil's] with a huge red army victory parade.

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There you go again... with your red army troll song and dance.

The Church of Christ the Saviour was rebuilt before Putin came to power. Ironically, every May 9th Putin praises, promotes and celebrates Stalin [the evil antichrist Bolshevik who ordered that church destroyed and tried to also destroy iconic St Basil's] with a huge red army victory parade.

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Like I said, they only celebrate the Soviet Victory over the Nazis. It is an international celebration, it has nothing to do with promoting communism.
 
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Like I said, they only celebrate the Soviet Victory over the Nazis. It is an international celebration, it has nothing to do with promoting communism.



Putin's Bolshevik red army parade promotes both Lenin and Stalin [I'd love to hear your version of Lenin's role in WW2.]

Putin's May 9th Bolshevik red army love-fest is also celebrated in the Edomite-jew state that maliciously occupies and perverts God's holy land. In 2012 Putin dedicated a Bolshevik red army victory memorial near Tel Aviv [the only one outside the old USSR.] Many Edomite-jew red army vets live in the Edomite-jew state.

There is a famous book that was first published in Tsarist Russia that spoke of a future king of the antichrist Edomite-jews... Putin is that Edomite prince, otherwise known as Gog.

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Have jews started to construct third temple in jerusalem,if anybody knows anyuthing about this ,please do answer
No, there has been no construction of the third temple begun.

There is a mosque on the place where the Temple would be, Al Aqsa. However, it doesn't cover the entire Temple Mount. There is an open air area as well that is also part of the Temple Mount. Non-Muslims can go there, but they are not allowed to pray. Current Israeli policy is to support the non-prayer position. Jordon actually polices the area within the temple mount, and if they see any Jew with a prayer book, or davening, they will take immediate action

There are three movements that you will want to know about.

The first is the Temple Mount movement which pushes for a passover lamb offering in the open air area. Ezra began offering sacrifices on the foundation of the temple before it was even built, so even this sort of sacrifice would be valid. One year in particular they were almost successful when they used a helicopter to fly in the lamb.

The second is the movement to pray just outside the Temple mount, as close as one can guilt and still be within the law.

The third and final movement is to cry "Am Yisrael Chai!" on the Temple mount grounds. The Israel Supreme Court has ruled that this is a secular statement rather than a prayer, and is therefore allowed there.
 
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You are quoting the wrong person. I am not the one making that statement.


Sorry... not sure how that happened... but it was ☦Marius☦'s statement.

I'm still waiting for him to entertain us with his explanation of how Putin praising Lenin relates to WW2.

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Let me say that the video at beginning appeared sound but on those points I addressed are the correct understanding/interpretation.

Did Jesus use the Hebrew Scripture to prove He was Messiah and Son of God.

And Son of man, and....?

Right before He returns, possibly for the 7-year Time of Jacobs Trouble ("our" western world Gentile/Church Tribulation) along with Israel what do you suppose He is going to use to FINALLY open His Chosen People's eyes to see FINALLY their Savior and Messiah?

He's going to use the Law, the Psalms, and the Prophets (again) to FINALLY reveal Himself and His people Israel will FINALLY do the prophetic thing and AGAIN call upon their LORD.

The Times of the Gentiles will be over and Yahweh will again reach out to a "gainsaying people" and they will respond because God is ready to make them respond. There is NO repentance unless God grants it. And this TIME He will.

Whoever is on that white horse coming down with the armies of the heaven behind Him has a vesture stained with the literal blood of Israel's enemies, God's enemies, the Church's enemies, and my enemies with bare hands and a Word or three.

Now, you do understand paraphrase?

Since "the time of Jacob's trouble" occurred during the captivity in Babylon, the only way to see it would be with a time machine set to return you to the past.

There is no 7 year tribulation period in the Bible.
It is produced by adding together two of the references to the 42 months in the Book of Revelation or by adding an "antichrist" and a "gap" not found in Daniel 9:27.

How will the eyes of the Jewish people be opened?

Hopefully, the Church will abandon Dual Covenant Theology and begin to preach the New Covenant Gospel to them.
It is a simple three-part Gospel message that I have never seen used together on Christian television. It is found in the 3 video-clips below.
Many modern Christians would say they do not "have time" to watch it, but yet they claim to love the Jewish people.


The "suffering servant" of Isaiah chapter 53, and the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and the timeline of the New Covenant Messiah found in Daniel 9:24-27, prove that the baby born in a manger is the Messiah promised in the Hebrew scriptures.


Forbidden Chapter in the Tanakh (Jewish Evangelism)


The New Covenant: Bob George


Daniel Chapter 9: Dr. Kelly Varner

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IF Israel builds another temple, consider this, it WILL NOT be a Christian temple, so then what is it really?
A place you wont want to be in or associated with. Will they also want to offer animal blood for sins? YES they do.
That time in respect will be no different than when the ancient Jews were expecting and looking for their messiah to come and when He did they did not receive Him because of how they perceived things would take place
just as some Christians today incorrectly perceive what will yet take place in the future , I have not seen anyone who recognizes the 3rd temple being built call it a Christian temple because it will not be - it will be a Jewish following that believes that building the temple and resuming the old ways will usher in the Messiah - they are also blinded that this will bring the false messiah into power -that which the true Messiah Jesus will destroy at His coming -It is simply part of the unfolding of the events that scripture tells us will happen before the return of Christ Jesus
 
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