COL 2:14-17 The REAL truth from God's Word

The7thColporteur said:

It's like you didn't read my post or question.

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The7thColporteur said:

Again, in Exodus 19-20 where is the Levitical priest that "the law" was given under? From what I read the Ten Commandments were spoken directly by God from heaven to all the people. There was no Levitical priesthood yet.

The Levitical priesthood deals with the laws of sacrifice.

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The7thColporteur said:

Sure was, from sacrifice of type, to sacrifice of the real. From Levitical priest to Jesus Priest.

The Ten Commandment Law didn't change, otherwise why would you need a Jesus priest?

Read Exodus 25:9,40; Numbers 8:4; 1 Chronicles 28:12,19; Hebrews 8:5, 9:24; Revelation 11:19, 15:5. What is in the True Ark in the True Most Holy Place in the True Temple in Heaven that God gave as a pattern to Moses, David/Solomon?

Psalms 40:8 KJB - I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.
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Where was the Law of God in the Temple? In the Ark. Therefore, re-read Psalms 40:8 again, in the context of Jesus Christ, Psalms 40:7,9 KJB, etc. The Ark is representational of the Heart of God, in which is His unchanging character.

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The7thColporteur said:

Sure was, from sacrifice of type, to sacrifice of the real. From Levitical priest to Jesus Priest.

The Ten Commandment Law didn't change, otherwise why would you need a Jesus priest?

Read Exodus 25:9,40; Numbers 8:4; 1 Chronicles 28:12,19; Hebrews 8:5, 9:24; Revelation 11:19, 15:5. What is in the True Ark in the True Most Holy Place in the True Temple in Heaven that God gave as a pattern to Moses, David/Solomon?

Psalms 40:8 KJB - I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.
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Where was the Law of God in the Temple? In the Ark. Therefore, re-read Psalms 40:8 again, in the context of Jesus Christ, Psalms 40:7,9 KJB, etc. The Ark is representational of the Heart of God, in which is His unchanging character.

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The7thColporteur said:

Jesus died to ransom those who transgressed against a specific Law. What was that Law?

Show me where Jesus died for transgression of this 'new law' you speak of.

Jesus is made a High priest to administer the blood of the true sacrifice for that original transgressed law.

Show me where Jesus is made a high priest to adminster the blood of the true sacrifice for that original transgressed law, for this 'new law' that you speak of, since it has no sacrifice for it, no blood for it, and therefore can have no priest for such.

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The7thColporteur said:

Not at all. You missed the distinction made in Exodus 19, which I already demonstrated between the 'old covenant', in Exodus 19:8 KJB, "All that the LORD hath spoken we will do.", and God's "My covenant", also "his covenant", which is the Everlasting Covenant.

As stated earlier, which you did not read, there are two things in Exodus 19, not one. There is a difference between God's "My covenant" [Psalms 89:34 KJB] and their covenant [Hebrews 8:6-8 KJB].

You automatically assume when the Bible says "covenant", in such locations, that it means 'old covenant'. The case is not so. Your error, not mine.

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The7thColporteur said:

When did this 'new law' come into effect?

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LoveGodsWord said:

Well that has no truth in it please show scripture that says Sunday is the LORDS DAY?

John is referring to Jesus as the CREATOR GOD (John 1:1-14) when using the phrase "Lord's day" As creator he created all the days in the week but it was the SEVENTH DAY that Jesus made HOLY. Hence in the scriptures we read...

MATTHEW 12:8 [8], The son of man is LORD EVEN OF THE SABBATH DAY.

God's WORD says that the SABBATH DAY = THE LORDS DAY = Therefore, John was in the Spirit on the SABBATH DAY (LORD'S DAY).

John used the term "LORDS DAY" to refer to Jesus as the CREATOR GOD or God of creation.

This is a term the Jews rejected because they did not accept Jesus as the Messaiah or the God of creation.

Hope this helps.

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LoveGodsWord said:

Now listed,

You have made three separate posts above, and all your doing is talking very small sections out of larger posts sent you supported by scripture that disagree with you to make up strawmen arguments I am not even talking about.

Please show what it is in my posts that you disagree with and prove why you disagree from scripture alone. If you cannot it only proves your error.

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LoveGodsWord said:

Amazing, you are indeed making things up. I have answered all your questions until yesterday (my time) because you refuse to respond to the posts and the scriptures and questions sent you that disagree with you.

Now I ask you then if what you are saying is true then please prove it if you cannot it only proves your error and that you are indeed making things up and saying things now that have no basis in truth.

Then I put out an invitation to you more then once saying I will continue answering your questions if you agree to respond to my posts and the scriptures in them that disagree with you as well as the questions that are asked of you and you decline.

I am still waiting for you to accept my invitation. Do you agree or not?

It is not me bearing false witness me friend it is indeed you because you have no scripture to support your teachings that break the commandments of God.

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The7thColporteur said:

Ten is the wholeness [Ecclesiastes 12:13-14 KJB], and it is exceeding broad covering every sin [Psalms 119:96 KJB]. You must think of Paul as you do me, since Paul gives several 'incomplete' [every known sin to mankind] lists. The Ten Commandments encompass them all and Paul knew that [Romans 13:9 KJB].

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The7thColporteur said:

Another question, on this "law" of Hebrews 7 KJB, etc, can anyone here show me where the Ten Commandments made men priests?

Hebrews 7:28 KJB - For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.​

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Marco70 said:

It is good to repeat this, for it goes to the heart of the error in some peoples teachings in this thread.

Paul stated:
The letter kills(present, not past tense.)
He was referring to the TC as we know.

Yet, some on the internet preach the letter and claim if you fail to obey it you are placed in an unsaved state. They tell you, you are saved by grace through faith, you are not justified/righteous by observing the law, but you can only remain in a saved state if you observe the law. This is nonsensical. If you can only remain in a saved state if you observe the law, you can only be righteous/justified before God by observing the law, therefore, you live your life under the law as a Christian. Obviously, such people cannot discern/understand the message of the person chosen to be the chief exponent of the NC to the world. In truth their belief is: Perfectly obey the law, and you are then not under the law, which again, is nonsensaical. As the letter kills, the people who preach this, then have to make excuses for their sin/claim they are not committing sin.(as we have seen in this thread)
And, because these people simply, robotically quote the letter, they cannot see the reality. They endlessly quote 1John 3:6-9 for example as proof of their belief. Yet we know their blindly following the letter is so often not the reality. The reality was, in the Corinthian church sin weas committed, but they were still considered Christians.
The problem was in Jesus day, people would simply reel off the letter, but it bore no reality to their lives either, nothing has changed. And by only being able to quote the letter(that kills) they had to demand of others what they failed to attain to in their own lives. Nothing has changed has it.
As a mature Christian once remarked:
You can read the quran, and understand it simply by reading the letter, the bible was not meant to be understood that way. It is not enough just to quote the letter, you have to be able to understand the message contained in that letter. The Pharisees did not, neither do many today sadly.
And, when people just write hugely long posts, covered with the letter itself, it kinda shows you, who is only able to quote the letter without understanding of it.
Of course, to be fair, few ministers come on websites such as this, for obviously, they in the reality of their lives cannot just ream off much of the letter itself, their job is to flesh it out, explain it

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LoveGodsWord said:

Then prove it my friend.

Respond to the post and scriptures in them that disagrees with your teaching. So far your only proving your in error and ignoring God's WORD that disagrees with you.

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LoveGodsWord said:

Yet if you do not know the letter of the law how can you know the SPIRIT of the law?

Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the WORD of GOD. (Romans 10:17)

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Marco70 said:

Well you follow after the letter, therefore I'm not sure it is a wise question for you to ask

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LoveGodsWord said:

Not at all. God is my judge. I do not judge you. It is God's WORD that will be our judge come judgement day (John 12:47-48)

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listed said:

No it means I won't take your opinion as mine.

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LoveGodsWord said:

Hi 1stcenturylady ,

Yes I am aware that some believe that they are saved in their sins. I do not believe this at all and it is a teaching that is against God's WORD.

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Bob S said:

Your "demonstrations" are a flop.

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