Yet Another Shooting in the US

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A nude gunman has killed three, wounded four others with an assault weapon at a Waffle House. Prayers for those wounded and for the families of those killed.

When will we start to put restrict or ban these weapons?
The suspect was recently arrested outside the White House. When will we start institutionalizing the criminally insane again?
 
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The NRA members are gun industry people and gun owners. The NRA lobbies for both.

Jesus taught that I may not resist violence and those who live by the sword will die by the sword. The statistics show that people who own guns are less protected and less safe than those who own no guns. It is also understood many gun owners used their guns to commit suicide. Guns did not make them any happier either.

The US has the highest murdered rate of any developed nation and the most permissive gun ownership laws. My safety is at risk over some gun owner's battle fantasies.

So you wont resist violence huh? What about if you come home and find a loved one being gang raped, or savagely beaten? According to you, you will just stand there and watch? It is also written: "But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel."

Part of providing for your family INCLUDES protecting them and watching out for their safety. What about "love your neighbor as ye love yourself" If my neighbor is being violently attacked with a knife or by several people(and my neighbor is everyone I will ever come in contact with in my lifetime) I will step in and help them whether by using deadly force or not.

"My safety is at risk over some gun owner's battle fantasies." Its not your safety we are fighting against its your ignorance because when the day comes and you finally realize you were wrong all along it will be to late. If you want to wait 10 minutes for the police to arrive to help you that's up to you. But don't tell me my safety is somebody else's job because its not, its MY JOB to protect my family and those around me.
 
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Not good for business to discuss such things....

God will bring them to destruction for the harm they have done. They are an absolute ABOMINATION. Hitler was a joke compared to the damage they have done...
 
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Waffle House shooting suspect arrested last year by Secret Service for being in restricted area near White House.

After the arrest, his Illinois firearms authorization was revoked and local Illinois police confiscated his firearms.

How's that for gun control?
The people intent on killing are going to kill.
People who are nothing sometimes think that they can become somebody. They can get attention and of course all of you oblige.
 
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We also need to pray for those committing these crimes... mental illness is a societal problem that is growing not decreasing. As a poster said above, increase in sinfulness because of removing God from everyday life is also contributing.
I don't think its so much about mental illness. I have autism, and a lot of mass shooters, like Adam Lanza, are said to have autism. Going to far on controlling mental illness will blanket on people with autism or any mental disability.
But, like you said, EastCoastRemnant, society has forsaken God now more than ever, especially in the US. We remove the 10 Commandments from the school, court, and coherent buildings. The result: Divorce rate is rising, more people are getting into paganism gothic, inappropriate contentography (and hentai) is spreading across society rapidly like wildfire, and guys get more addicted to extremely violent games and movies. And when a mass shooting happens, and the shooter happens to be white, they'll blame mental illness and say the shooter had autism. Then people will have a more negative view of autistic people in society.
 
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The truth is , first we need not to judge, Judgment is Gods.

Second thing to remember this world is not ours, we are not a part of it. We do not live for it or by its judgments.

Why say this?

Because these are world topics and events that are set in place to make man judge others.

Now I agree this man needs to be caught, and this should be the only basis.

And even after that forgiveness, love, compassion is in order as Our God will judge him , unless he becomes saved and repents.

This is just a reminder not to judge.
 
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The truth is , first we need not to judge, Judgment is Gods.

Second thing to remember this world is not ours, we are not a part of it. We do not live for it or by its judgments.

Why say this?

Because these are world topics and events that are set in place to make man judge others.

Now I agree this man needs to be caught, and this should be the only basis.

And even after that forgiveness, love, compassion is in order as Our God will judge him , unless he becomes saved and repents.

This is just a reminder not to judge.

True, but there is a difference between judging a person and judging a persons actions. I always pray for these shooters that they truly come to know Christ. I also pray for my enemy's that they truly come to know Christ as well. You would be surprised at how many criminals that have been sent to prison have come to know Christ there.
 
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Daniel...An eye for an eye? Is that not judgement. Is that not Biblical?

Jesus said= you say a eye for a eye, I say to love your enemies, do good to those who hate you and prosecute you.

We follow Jesus, We do not judge period

Your judgment does nothing but condemn you.

If you do not forgive you will not be forgiven.
 
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True, but there is a difference between judging a person and judging a persons actions. I always pray for these shooters that they truly come to know Christ. I also pray for my enemy's that they truly come to know Christ as well. You would be surprised at how many criminals that have been sent to prison have come to know Christ there.

I agree with you there, But the prison part, I know.

But yes, We should teach the actions where wrong but not judge.
 
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Britain banned semi-auto weapons and has 1/4 the murder rate of the United States.

Hasn't the UK's homicide rate always been lower than the US? Is there reason to believe that a 1/4 homicide rate to the US is caused by a semi-auto ban?
 
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A nude gunman has killed three, wounded four others with an assault weapon at a Waffle House. Prayers for those wounded and for the families of those killed.

When will we start to put restrict or ban these weapons?
When the USA repeals the second amendment. That is when there will be laws to restrict and curtail gun ownership and proliferation of guns in a population with a significant number of insane people who are on the streets with guns. Some sane people also appear to have and use guns to kill people. Not every shooter and not every mass shooter is a nut case.
 
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"Hasn't the UK's homicide rate always been lower than the US? Is there reason to believe that a 1/4 homicide rate to the US is caused by a semi-auto ban?"

Their population is 1/4 of the USA as well.
 
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I personally don't think that scriptural .

(Leviticus 24:17-23; Luke 6:27-36)



38Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 39But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. 41And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

43Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
 
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I personally don't think that scriptural .

Do Not Judge

(Luke 6:37-42; Romans 14:1-12)



1Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

6Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
 
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(Leviticus 24:17-23; Luke 6:27-36)



38Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 39But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. 41And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

43Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

So what does these verses have to do with judgment?
 
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Do Not Judge

(Luke 6:37-42; Romans 14:1-12)



1Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

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Yes that verse is not claiming Christian shouldn't never judge. Read it more carefully. It's obvious Jesus were referring to hypocrites.
 
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So what does these verses have to do with judgment?

I posted two different scriptures to prove a point.

1. Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you

2. is the topic at hand. He says do not judge, he never said do not judge unless.

Its ok to judge if your own speak is removed, no. to teach after your speak is removed.

To lead after you can see clear, not to judge, I can care less what the stupid video teaches, it in its self is wrong.
 
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Yes that verse is not claiming Christian shouldn't never judge. Read it more carefully. It's obvious Jesus were referring to hypocrites.

Yes, and if you judge you are a hypocrite as you to also are a sinner.
 
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