COL 2:14-17 The REAL truth from God's Word

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What was the purpose of Christ coming?
Has not Moses given you the law? Yet, NOT ONE of you keeps the law......
John 7:19

Obviously you believe Jesus was wrong and you are correct. A lot of people come on the internet and believe they know more than the writers of the NT, Jesus included I imagine
 
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Has not Moses given you the law? Yet, NOT ONE of you keeps the law......
John 7:19

Obviously you believe Jesus was wrong and you are correct. A lot of people come on the internet and believe they know more than the writers of the NT, Jesus included I imagine

What was the purpose of Christ coming?
 
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We've been over this. As you obviously believe you know better than Jesus, my words will mean nothing to you.

What was the purpose of Christ coming? Why was the Law only TILL Christ came. Then what?
 
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Its amazing really, people come on the intrernet, telling others they need to have what they have. They continually tell you they are filled with, or have been baptised in the Holy Spirit and you need what they have. They even go so far as to believe Jesus must be in error when he stated: NOT ONE person kept the law
 
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Its amazing really, people come on the intrernet, telling others they need to have what they have. They continually tell you they are filled with, or have been baptised in the Holy Spirit and you need what they have. They even go so far as to believe Jesus must be in error when he stated: NOT ONE person kept the law
Not one person could. So what did He do to correct that.
 
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Not one person could. So what did He do to correct that.
You are now contradicting yourself all over the place, for you have already stated the Pharisees(of all people) obeyed the TC, and were righteous under them. Now you say not one person kept the law.
No point in continuing this. You need to study the subject more
 
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You are now contradicting yourself all over the place, for you have already stated the Pharisees(of all people) obeyed the TC, and were righteous under them. Now you say not one person kept the law.
No point in continuing this. You need to study the subject more

You are righteous if God doesn't hold them against you. But that is no longer the case. What changed?
 
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You can work for your salvation. I'll accept mine as the gift God gave and gives me. The only thing you offer is despair and fear because of failure. The Jews even realized this in their statement in Nehemiah 10:29.

We are ONLY saved by GRACE through FAITH and NOT of ourselves it is a GIFT of GOD and NOT of WORKS lest any man should boast.

If your FAITH does not have the FRUIT of OBEDIENCE then you are still in your SINS because you have rejected God's he GIFT of God's dear son (James 2:18; 20; 26; James 2:8-12). If your tree has no FRUIT then it will be cast down and thrown into the fire (Matt 7:12-23; Hebrews 10:26-27).

Many do not understand the writings of Jesus when he says; They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick. But go you and learn what that means, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance (MATTHEW 9:12-13).

Do you know what the meaning of these scriptures are listed?
 
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Your defense boils down to pure condemnation to try an manipulate adherence to a defunct covenant to attain and maintain salvation.

Not at all. The scriptures shared here are God's WORDS not mine, I am no one. If you feel condemned by the Word of God then harden not your heart but praise God because he is calling you to have a closer walk with him because he loves you.

Only God's WORD is true and those that worship God must worship him in Spirit and in truth.
Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 
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Your Scriptures have been responded to and about. We responded with the "new covenant" you refuse to accept. Somehow the pronouns you use and quote mean us while those same pronouns we use mean something else. Why is this?

What your statement above really means is agree with you.You seem to equate disagreement as not responding. Why do you think praying about this issue will do away with even the quoted words of Jesus?

Not at all. If we speak of ourselves then our own words are not God's WORDS. He who God sends speaks the WORDS of GOD. You speak your own words over God's WORD. Your words are not God's WORDS.

As the heavens are higher then the earth so are Gods ways from our ways and his throughts from our thoughts. He that says he KNOWS God and does not keep his Commandments is a liar and the truth is not in him.

Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it.

SIN will keep all who practice it out of God's KINGDOM.
 
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Nothing of importance to read here, just false exegesis(much repeated) as you do not understand the message of the NC

You are free to BELIEVE or not BELIEVE God's WORDS. I do not judge you. Only God's WORD will be our judge in the last days for the WORD of God we accept or reject (John 12:47-48)
 
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Straw man? How many times does Bob have to quote 2 Corinthians 3:7 you even quoted and ignored above? Is the straw man you're talking about the definition of "was" or BobS use of "transitory" which means "not permanent" in the verse? The word "was" means "no longer" or not permanent. You need to throw out that personal dictionary that disagrees with the rest of the English speaking world.

Nothing you have stated here has any truth in it nad are only your own words over God's WORD. Do you have any scriptures to share? Nothing has been ignored and only God's WORD has been shared in relation to 2 COR 3 linked here CLICK ME.



LGW wrote: Now take a look at the NEW COVENANT promise from Jeremiah 31:31-34 and repeated by the same author as Corinthians in Hebrews 8:10-12 and 10:16-17

Hebrews 8:10-12
[10], For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
[11], And they shall not teach every man his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
[12], For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
Real slick tactic for the ignorant and lazy. You reference Jeremiah 31:32 and refuse to quote that part of of the quote from Hebrews 8. Why? Doesn't it defeat your argument? The very same words "not according to... are in that verse (9). Your presentation leaves out all gentiles not participating in the national covenant given to Israel at Sinai. That simply doesn't line up with the Gospels and the historical record of Acts. What is true? Are the Gospels and Acts false uninspired by God? Once again it isn't the national law given to Israel at Sinai because of the phrase "not according to..." being transferred.

There is no slick tactic it is only the WORD of GOD and we should BELIEVE AND FOLLOW it. As stated in the same quote you are referencing I have stated this is the same quote used by Paul in Hebrews 8.

Why would anything I have written from what you quoted defeat my argument? I had already stated the quotes from Jeremiah 31:31-34 and Hebrews 8:10-12 were the same. The point I was making is that this is a reference to the NEW COVENANT not the OLD and it was given to God's ISRAEL who the WORD of GOD says in the NEW TESTAMENT are those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD.

Gentiles are now grafted in to God's ISRAEL and are a part of the NEW COVENANT (ROMANS 11:16-27) If you are not a part of God's ISRAEL you have no part in the NEW COVENANT (please see; Galatians 3:28-29; Colossians 3:11; Romans 10:11-13; Romans 2:28-29; Jeremiah 31:33-4; Hebrews 8:10-12; Hebrews 10:14-17)

God's Word disagrees with you.

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 
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