Not for the Great Tribulation

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Preppers are not prepping for the tribulation. I know of no-one who does this. The vast majority of preppers do so for economic collapse... something that is a certainty.
To a lessor degree we prep for natural catastrophe, social upheaval, or a government gone bad.
Nobody can deny that these things happen. History is on our side. Look back over the last 2000 years and just observe the facts. Christians have starved, been tortured, been executed in every age. When people died in catastrophe, social upheaval, and war... Christians were right in there dying with them. No-where does God tell us that we have to simply lay down and be victims. The scripture is jammed with examples of how we should behave and what we should do. It is not die.

Interesting that Noah and his family were said to be saved... not above it. Not taken out of it. But they were brought safely THROUGH the water. Through the trouble... through the tribulation.

1 Peter 3:20
"who once were disobedient, when the patience of God kept waiting in the days of Noah, during the construction of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through the water."

You cannot go against the word of God. You can resist it. You can deny it. But you can never defeat it or overcome it. Surrender to it.

Noah was warned of God and FEARED.
He feared because he BELIEVED the WORD of God insomuch that he PREPARED and ark.

Heb 11:7
By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

Do you beleive God? Do you believe His Word? Do you "fear" because of it?
Do you beleive so much that you will "PREPARE"?
Do you "PREPARE" so that you can be brought safely "THROUGH" the tribulation?

Those who hear, believe, fear, and prepare will also stand in condemnation of those who did not.
We are the heirs of righteousness which is by faith.
BELIEVE!
FEAR!
PREPARE!
Save the life of your family.
 

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As stated in another post, I prep because I was raised that way and don't see why everyone else doesn't? Whatcha going to do when the snow comes?
What happens if your neighbor comes over and needs something?
I do read a pre trib rapture or "catching away" of the saints, So therefore what I do, is in noway related to the tribulation. It is simply my way of life and I love going to bed at with no worries of what is going to happen and can we survive it,
I only wish I could turn leaves and rocks into comfortable toilet paper, then I wouldn't stress at all.
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I think there is a huge misunderstanding among most people as to what a prepper is. The post asking if it is distrustful to prep for "Armageddon" is a really good example of this. The idea is that you're preparing for the "end of the world." Technically prepper circles use the acronym "TEOTWAKI" [The end of the world as we know it."] But I myself don't advocate physical preparation for the end of time specifically. I don't know that it will do you a lot of good at that point. However the reality of it is we're not living in that time. It is something that is to occur in the future.

However we live in a messed up sinful world. Natural disasters especially are a huge problem among a long list of other potential issues that it wouldn't hurt to be prepared for. Yet none of this really constitutes the "end of the world".
 
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For those preppers who believe in a pre-tribulation rapture, there is no need. I, for one, do not believe this. Yes I prep for all those reasons, but I also prep for the Great Tribulation.

It's interesting to see how the different views of Prophecy affect prepping. A pre-tribulation rapture does seem to cause a person not to make physical preparations. It creates a, "you don't even need to be prepared for an economic collapse because the rapture is coming and we won't be here" type of mindset. I don't hold this view of prophecy either.
 
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It's interesting to see how the different views of Prophecy affect prepping. A pre-tribulation rapture does seem to cause a person not to make physical preparations. It creates a, "you don't even need to be prepared for an economic collapse because the rapture is coming and we won't be here" type of mindset. I don't hold this view of prophecy either.
Agreed. Quite a gamble.
 
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It's interesting to see how the different views of Prophecy affect prepping. A pre-tribulation rapture does seem to cause a person not to make physical preparations. It creates a, "you don't even need to be prepared for an economic collapse because the rapture is coming and we won't be here" type of mindset. I don't hold this view of prophecy either.
That is true. However, I live in Texas right in tornado alley. It is just stupid not to be a prepper where I live. Power often goes out. Without the grid means no pumps for water. Also those who don't prep panic when things happen and stores become empty quickly. If you don't stock up then you will be empty handed. Besides, I learned long ago that buying things that don't spoil in bulk of the items I always use saves money because of inflation. Buying at the lower price in bulk means you have it at the lower price when prices go up.

Frankly, I believe the pre-trib doctrine also creates political apathy, too.
 
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My experience has been that anti-preppers tend to have faith, not so much in God and His provisions, rather in Wal-Mart, FEMA, and other government agencies who have taken money and made promises they could never keep. That is a bad religion indeed.
Today's civilization is temporary, artificial, and unstable. It will last only as long and the power resources (fossil fuel, electrical grid) last, the trucking industry operates, the civil government lasts, the civil society lasts, and the economic structure lasts.
Any one of these fails, for whatever reason, we are back in the 1880s, and people are starving for a lack of knowledge. I do not trust these things. I trust God, and God said to both be aware of the signs of the time and to prepare appropriately. To do these things is faith!
 
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My experience has been that anti-preppers tend to have faith, not so much in God and His provisions, rather in Wal-Mart, FEMA, and other government agencies who have taken money and made promises they could never keep. That is a bad religion indeed.
Today's civilization is temporary, artificial, and unstable. It will last only as long and the power resources (fossil fuel, electrical grid) last, the trucking industry operates, the civil government lasts, the civil society lasts, and the economic structure lasts.
Any one of these fails, for whatever reason, we are back in the 1880s, and people are starving for a lack of knowledge. I do not trust these things. I trust God, and God said to both be aware of the signs of the time and to prepare appropriately. To do these things is faith!

At the end of the day, if you don't make any intelligent provisions you end up receiving hand outs from FEMA, other Government agencies, or perhaps other Christian entities fulfilling the command in the book of Proverbs "Withhold not good from them to whom it is due, when it is in the power of thine hand to do it." - Proverbs 3:27. I think that it is a massive failure on your part if you're supposed to be the one giving the hand-out and instead you're the one receiving it.
 
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At the end of the day, if you don't make any intelligent provisions you end up receiving hand outs from FEMA, other Government agencies, or perhaps other Christian entities fulfilling the command in the book of Proverbs "Withhold not good from them to whom it is due, when it is in the power of thine hand to do it." - Proverbs 3:27. I think that it is a massive failure on your part if you're supposed to be the one giving the hand-out and instead you're the one receiving it.
Amen... runs in tune with:

Proverbs 22:
7 The rich ruleth over the poor: and the borrower is servant to him that lendeth.

My 6th grade teacher used to drill it into us:
"You never get something for nothing..."

It may seem free... but in this world there will come a day when you have to pay.
In this regard, if the government "gives" you something, be sure there are strings attached. Not to be cynical, but I have found this to be true. They are going to want to know your business, family, home, money, even friends, church, and same for your children and parents.
Just as soon stay separate myself.
 
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Anyone relying upon FEMA/government are in for a rude awakening, and anger and panic pursuing. I have personally seen this fail... by design at times. DON'T expect to get anything from the Government and you won't be disappointed.

There is NOTHING like "running over" to your local large grocery store (Wal mart included) and NOT FINDING water... seeing the shelves all but EMPTY of all canned goods... people buying what's left because that's all there is (things they wouldn't dream of eating otherwise). Until you experience it, you cannot fathom it. IF you are not prepping fully, then each week buy a few extras... at the very least if it's something like an expected storm, bad weather coming in. . . GO "NOW" to shop... whether it's a few days a head or early in the morning (or middle of the night with Walmart superstores/walgreens)... Waiting til it's convenient like everyone else won't give you happiness
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Anyone relying upon FEMA/government are in for a rude awakening, and anger and panic pursuing. I have personally seen this fail... by design at times. DON'T expect to get anything from the Government and you won't be disappointed.

There is NOTHING like "running over" to your local large grocery store (Wal mart included) and NOT FINDING water... seeing the shelves all but EMPTY of all canned goods... people buying what's left because that's all there is (things they wouldn't dream of eating otherwise). Until you experience it, you cannot fathom it. IF you are not prepping fully, then each week buy a few extras... at the very least if it's something like an expected storm, bad weather coming in. . . GO "NOW" to shop... whether it's a few days a head or early in the morning (or middle of the night with Walmart superstores/walgreens)... Waiting til it's convenient like everyone else won't give you happiness
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It is coming and that is why I tell everyone to put back some things. My church has offered a canning class to young ladies in our area and not even one young lady was willing to come and learn how to put back for their families. Peoples mentality are so different nowadays. I do not get it.
I have tried to get some young men to start a community garden, But nope. To busy playing games and waiting on SSI
 
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For 2 generations our youth have been taught to more and more rely upon the government. Perhaps now, with common core gone, learning there are consequences for actions, that God is important to even the POTUS, they might begin to realize government is not your friend?

I was interviewed by two youthful people when I was out in the desert camping. They were asking about what I thought the future of Social Security was. I ended my discussion with a statement that made their jaws drop--- I pointed out that THEY needed to worry about it, not me... they couldn't figure out why (government gives everything right?) I said you aren't even getting married and you surely aren't having children. WHO do you expect to pay for YOUR social security? There will be no one paying SS taxes for you to have benefits.
 
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