Just look at popery. It exalts itself above Christ and His gospel by making man work for his or her salvation through idolatrous sacraments and practices. The doctrine of free will is like that great lie of the serpent in the garden, ye shall be gods knowing good and evil. Genesis 3. Apart from regeneration, no man has understanding of any spiritual good.
Jesus tells us to pray that His Will be done, because He WANTS His will to be done.
Popery?
Idolatrous sacraments?
Nobody has really bothered to explain the logic of supposedly MIA free will. So far people have thrown a bunch of scriptural passages at me (as if that proves something) and left me to read between the lines.
Mans natural tendency and desires (will) has a disposition towards sin. So unregenerate mans will is held in bondage to his sinful nature. So his inclinations can only be moved by his nature. Scripture over and over repeats how man is spiritually dead in sin. So no free will as you want to see it. Apart from Gods mercy in Christ, all men will die inclined towards sin and a hater of Christ. But God who is rich in mercy saves some in Christ. Gods Sovereignty moves through man to bring about His purpose and decrees. All the while man being held responsible for his actions and desires. Romans 9. As in the case with Gods purpose in Christ and his murder. Acts 2:23
I have asked certain questions along this line to him but he runs from answering them. I think he knows that his doctrine is on shaky ground and he cannot answer, So he simply avoids any hard questions and strong verses that correct him..Instead he uses a few selected verses out of context to try and make his case. But the verses he uses do not mean what he is making them to mean. When you show him the meaning and word study and context and other verses that directly rebuke his understanding, he runs away or simply uses a few verses out of context.
do you try to say that belief in Jesus Christ is a work that some try to do for salvation?
That verse you bring in John does not mean what you try to make it. Jesus chose the apostles for a specific work, they didn't choose that. Read the context he is speaking to his apostles. Paul said he was an apostle not of man nor by man, but by Jesus Christ. The Holy Ghost made men overseers. But they were already elders and had faith. God chooses for specific purposes certain people. But this has nothing to do with men receiving the free gift that God offers. To them that received him to them gave he the power to be called the sons of God.
