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Is there such a thing? I read there was. Also, spirit of depression, spirits of worthlessness, etc.
How do you get rid of them?
How do you get rid of them?
Spirit of Loneliness
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Not sure if there's specific spirits known as those, but in the Bible different spirits and God's spirit are said to exist. I do believe spirits exist and can be in us, whether we have good or evil in our hearts. When there's good in our hearts, we're moved by the Holy Spirit; evil in our hearts would be by another or many others, the Devil's spirit or demons.
Matters of the heart are inner problem, loneliness would be an inner struggle personally (evil spirit/inner demon?); to rid of it requires a different spirit to counter it and take it's place, by coming to God admitting you have a problem to yourself and being honest with him. Together as he guides you, you'll get a better understanding of what's exactly there and what you can do about it; but importantly what you trust him to do.
Matters of the heart are inner problem, loneliness would be an inner struggle personally (evil spirit/inner demon?); to rid of it requires a different spirit to counter it and take it's place, by coming to God admitting you have a problem to yourself and being honest with him. Together as he guides you, you'll get a better understanding of what's exactly there and what you can do about it; but importantly what you trust him to do.
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I'm not sure we are allowed to discuss demons in this particular area of CF so I'll just take "cutting" as a for instance, then quote some scripture and let people make out of it what they will. Is it connected, either directly or indirectly to the OP, or not at all? You decide.
King James Bible
Matthew 8:28-34; Luke 8:26-39)
1And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes. 2And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit, 3Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains: 4Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him. 5And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones. 6But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him, 7And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not. 8For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit. 9And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many. 10And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country. 11Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding. 12And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them. 13And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand and were choked in the sea.
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I saw on TV these Christian Counselors were counseling women that had sex abuse in their childhood and the said they had a "spirit of loneliness".
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I don't think such "spirits" exist at all. There is no such thing.
Rather, it happens that individual men and women may feel lonely, feel depressed, feel worthless, etc.
In each case, there are reasons, which vary from person to person. We should find out those reasons. And then, we should do something to help, given the specific circumstances. For example:
- Alex is depressed because he has a medical condition. He needs medicine from a doctor.
- Bob is depressed because his wife died. He needs support in his grief.
- Charles is depressed because he is unemployed. He needs a job and/or counselling and advice on dealing with his situation.
- David is depressed because of past trauma. He needs professional counselling to deal with that trauma.
- Edward is depressed because... Well, you get the idea.
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I once heard a demon refer to satan as "self" in a conversation. So to me "self" is an appropiate name for him, for he is all about self. On the other hand, The Lord is about others, for He is Love. At the fall of man sin ("self") entered into man. So how can man not be about self? "Father forgive them for they know not what they do." All of the spirits mentioned above have one thing in common, "self". And when in man, it causes suffering. The remedy for all of this, and the Victory over all of this, was what Jesus did on The Cross. At the moment a person is truly born again(from above) they have both The Father and The Son by way of The Holy Spirit. And these Three agree. Love is not about self, Love is about others. When Love enters in, anything else must depart for The Holy Spirit is Holy. After this, when we learn to deny ourselves, and the the things(lust) of this world, He increases in us and we begin to bare fruit (His fruit). And in this fruit there is no "self". And thus, "the old has passed away, and all things become new" according to His perfect plan.
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That's possession not oppression.
I understand, it's just that it's the only thing that is actually biblical that may have had the slightest connection.
I've never heard of a spirit of loneliness, or any others for that matter, and that's not to say it's not possible, but I do know sometimes people will take it on themselves to put unbibiblical names and definitions to things. Someone on TV where one might tend to be looking for recognition, may be a perfect candidate for doing that.
Or it could be just that but it means nothing more than one is lonely. Some make much more of it, but to me, the Spirit of God simply means Gods way of thinking, just as the Sprite of Seekingmuch is her way of thinking. Meaning it's no more than our way of thinking if we are lonely, nothing mysterious. IOW, there's nothing more involved than just the individual being lonely and the TV people were just adding dramatics
But don't put to much into any of that, if anything at all, just some thoughts on the matter....hey, it's a slow day.
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I think the study of the subject of fellowship in John's First Epistle is a strong antidote to loneliness.
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Been a long time since I read through the New Testament reading it. So I don't remember all that much about it. But I agree none the less that fellowship is important as Christians, everything that's about coming to God and being in Christ (prayer, fasting, reading/hearing the Bible, church/fellowship etc.)
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Chapter 1 of 1 John is very searching on the subject of fellowship and walking in the light.
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A lot of the charismatic stuff I really have found to be hogwash. I'm sure there is something to demonic oppression, but what I have no idea. I just saw Christian mental health counselors talking about it and they were counseling childhood sex abuse survivors. They prayed against these spirits of loneliness and the women said they felt better. Was it psychological, or something really spiritual?
I do understand the "flesh" (our innate sinfulness) vs. the spirit. The flesh is always against God. The spirit is sorta dormant until the quickening (you know, Highlander, the movie, explained the quickening amazingly well....lol). The flesh is subdued by prayer.
I've seen Fallen Angels (in Walmart of all places) and met the devil once and heard demons.
A friend, who was Catholic, could actually see the spirit realm. He could see auras on people (he said mine was inside and I hid it from view). Another woman I know said he aunt could see "spirits" (sickness and disease) on people.
I do understand the "flesh" (our innate sinfulness) vs. the spirit. The flesh is always against God. The spirit is sorta dormant until the quickening (you know, Highlander, the movie, explained the quickening amazingly well....lol). The flesh is subdued by prayer.
I've seen Fallen Angels (in Walmart of all places) and met the devil once and heard demons.
A friend, who was Catholic, could actually see the spirit realm. He could see auras on people (he said mine was inside and I hid it from view). Another woman I know said he aunt could see "spirits" (sickness and disease) on people.
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Seeking Much, I have mentioned you to a friend who may be able to help.
Btw, you posted a dream you had about 3-4 weeks ago yes? I recall seeing something from you on one.
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God heals us of our emptiness and instead fills it with life hope, and happiness!
God heals us of our emptiness and instead fills it with life hope, and happiness!
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I have studied on spiritual possession, oppression...strongholds....tormenting spirits...etc etc....there is a man who has since passed to be with the Lord that has wisdom, knowledge, understand and experience in the demonic issues..Lester Sumrall and he has a series of teachings on this on YouTube....
My reason for studying it is because of my own personal experiences. I didn't know how to defeat the attacks of the enemy in my life...I have learned a great deal and it comes in handy when you need it.
God Bless.
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faroukfarouk
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The theme of fellowship in John's First Epistle is very searching in connection with this subject, both interpersonal but above all 'fellowship with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ', all connected with walking in the light and cleansing.
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Yes, such a spirit does exist but most of the time its a loneliness we obsess on to the point of sin. Don't get me wrong here: its not a sin to have a broken heart or feel lonely. But its the constant state of melancholy which crosses the line into sin and in time it could come with evil spirits. Though even if it doesn't become demonic its still sin and remain in a constant state of melancholy. I wish I knew this years ago because there was a time in my life when I suffered melancholy badly. I did not know my state of melancholy had become sin.
The remedy for this is to remain close with the Lord and help with activities in the church which reach out to the community of the poor. Another remedy which I recommend is to get yourself a rosary and learn it. This will keep you mind more on God and not on your problems. Pick yourself up...get up!...and walk to the Lord Jesus. You seek healing and such healing is found in Christ. I wish everyone were Catholic as I am, because the most sacred sacrament of the church, The Lord's Supper (i.e., Eucharist), gives you that personal closeness between you and Christ. But if you are Protestant then stay in pray, stay active in your church and/or find a church.
I know what its like to feel sad and lonely. It is not a sin to feel that way. But, again, when it takes over your life it has become a sin that separates you from Jesus. None of us will ever find Eternal Love, the Immortal Beloved, looking for it in a man or woman. We must find that love in Christ first. My regret on this issue is that I wish I had learned this lesson earlier in life. But today is never too late to start.
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look to Jesus thank God you are not lonely depressed or anything else but a new creation and all the old is gone. And continue thanking Him and dying to self and ignoring satan the weasel. hes not worth a mention.
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