Will Jesus Rule on Earth?

Will Jesus Rule on Earth?

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  • No

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  • No, St. Louis was a heretic in suggesting that Jesus will Rule on earth!

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  • Yes, Locutions and Aparisions from Jesus and Mary indicate Christ's Kingdom Come will be Soon!

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Matthew 6:9 The Lord’s Prayer.

“This is how you are to pray:
Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,

your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as in heaven.

Give us today our daily bread;
and forgive us our debts,
as we forgive our debtors;
and do not subject us to the final test, but deliver us from the evil one.


ST. LOUIS DE MONTFORT, END TIMES

Divine intervention within salvation history
This intermediary stage is the most dynamic and active, because during this stage we pass from the reign of sin to the reign of Jesus Christ in the hearts of men and women. Montfort is convinced that the Kingdom of God in Jesus Christ should not be projected into the hereafter but must come into existence on earth, in this world: "Is it not true that your kingdom must come?". This is the leitmotif of TD from its first sentence: "It was through the blessed Virgin Mary that Jesus Christ came into the world, and it is also through her that he must reign in the world". Who will be able to transform the world? For Montfort there is no doubt: God alone can accomplish such a task. He will intervene with "a deluge of fire, love and justice" through the mediation of the Spirit and the manifold acts of Mary. This divine intervention will be through and in mankind, especially through the "apostles of the end times". Their task will be twofold: “destroying sin and setting up the kingdom of Jesus"....

...The work of the apostles of the end times swings essentially around two poles, one negative, the other positive: "destroying sin and establishing the reign of Jesus Christ" (SM 59). The first pole involves a series of aggressive actions against the forces of evil: they” will give battle, overthrowing and crushing", they "will thunder against sin, they will storm against the world, they will strike down the devil and his followers", they "will be the odor of death to the great, the rich and the proud of this world". In the PM, along the same lines, Montfort foresees missionaries who will attack and overthrow the "enemies of God", who will "crush the head of the serpent", "address their ardent prayers to heaven, turning them into the weapons which will overcome or convert their enemies". The positive pole, which is described in more detail, consists of actions directed at the reform of the Church and its extension into the world: their "ministry will renew the face of the earth and reform your Church". With this objective, the apostles of the end times will carry out sanctifying apostolic work: they "will enkindle everywhere the fires of divine love"; "wherever they preach, they will leave behind them nothing but the gold of love"; they will be the "sweet fragrance of Jesus". They will "build the temple of the true Solomon and the mystical city of God", and they will "shower down the rain of God’s word and of eternal life". Moreover, they will work to extend the Lord’s empire "over the impious, the idolators and Muslims", receiving the deluge of fire that will empower them to convert "Muslims, idolators and even Jews"...

... His proposed congregation of missionary priests forms the core of these apostles. But the activity and the mighty battles of the end times must not be reserved to them alone. In two other prophetic texts, Montfort speaks more generally of "chosen souls" in whom Mary will reign sovereign, and he enlarges the horizon to embrace "a mighty legion of brave and valiant soldiers of Jesus and Mary, both men and women"

Quoted from: JESUS LIVING IN MARY: HANDBOOK OF THE SPIRITUALITY OF ST. LOUIS DE MONTFORT END TIMES

ACTS 26:17
I shall deliver you from this people and from the Gentiles to whom I send you, to open their eyes that they may turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may obtain forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who have been consecrated by faith in me.’

Luke 21:24
They will fall by the edge of the sword and be taken as captives to all the Gentiles; and Jerusalem will be trampled underfoot by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled

Revelation 12:5
She gave birth to a son--a boy destined to shepherd all the nations with an iron rod. Her child was caught up to God and to his throne. The woman herself fled into the desert, where a special place had been prepared for her by God; there she was taken care of for twelve hundred and sixty days...

...Then war broke out in heaven; Michael and his angels battled against the dragon. Although the dragon and his angels fought back, they were overpowered and lost their place in heaven. The huge dragon, the ancient serpent known as the devil or Satan, the seducer of the whole world, was driven out; he was hurled down to earth and his minions with him
. Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: "Now have salvation and power come, the reign of our God and the authority of his Anointed One.

ACTS 1:6
When they had gathered together they asked him, “Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?” He answered them, “It is not for you to know the times or seasons that the Father has established by his own authority. But you will receive power when the holy Spirit comes upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, throughout Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.When he had said this, as they were looking on, he was lifted up, and a cloud took him from their sight.

Luke 22:25
He said to them, I confer a kingdom on you, just as my Father has conferred one on me, that you may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom; and “you will sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Revelation 10:7
At the time when you hear the seventh angel blow his trumpet , the mysterious plan of God shall be fulfilled, as he promised to his servants the prophets.”

Revelation 11:15
Then the seventh angel blew his trumpet. There were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdom of the world now belongs to our Lord and to his Anointed, and he will reign forever and ever.

 
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The intermediary stage is the time of the Church, the time since Jesus' First Coming.

The next thing is the Second Coming of the Lord and the Last Judgment.

b. Second stage: divine intervention within salvation history.

This intermediary stage is the most dynamic and active, because during this stage we pass from the reign of sin to the reign of Jesus Christ in the hearts of men and women. Montfort is convinced that the Kingdom of God in Jesus Christ should not be projected into the hereafter but must come into existence on earth, in this world: "Is it not true that your kingdom must come?" (PM 5). This is the leitmotif of TD from its first sentence: "It was through the blessed Virgin Mary that Jesus Christ came into the world, and it is also through her that he must reign in the world" (TD 1; cf. 13, 22, 49, 157, 217, 262). Who will be able to transform the world? For Montfort there is no doubt: God alone can accomplish such a task. He will intervene with "a deluge of fire, love and justice" through the mediation of the Spirit and the manifold acts of Mary (PM 13, 15, 24-25; TD 49-56). This divine intervention will be through and in mankind, especially through the "apostles of the end times" (TD 58). Their task will be twofold: "destroying sin and setting up the kingdom of Jesus" (SM 59).

c. Third stage: the Second Coming and reign of Jesus Christ.

There is no doubt that "the whole Church expect him [God] to come and reign over all the earth and to judge the living and the dead" (SM 58). This Second Coming of Jesus will lead successively to the reign of Jesus in the world and to the Last Judgment, although not in tandem. Here we see the characteristic vision of Montfort: the universal and stable reign of Jesus (PM 4) anticipated in time as an effect of his coming. Jesus "comes in glory once again to reign upon earth" (TD 158), "the knowledge and the kingdom of Jesus Christ must come into the world" (TD 13), "you yourself will ask of Jesus, together with Mary, that he come with his kingdom on earth." It is not a visible and personal advent of Jesus and a temporal kingdom, as millenarians would hope for; Montfort insists that the kingdom of Jesus is "in the hearts" (TD 113) or "in our soul" (TD 68). In other words, Jesus will reign when, by the intervention of Mary, he is known, loved, and served (TD 49). In TD 217, we have the logical and perhaps even chronological steps: reign of Mary, coming of the Spirit, reign of Jesus Christ. We also see here how Montfort spirituality has as its goal the establishment of the kingdom of Christ: "‘When will that happy day come . . . when God’s Mother is enthroned in men’s hearts as Queen, subjecting them to the dominion of her great and princely Son?’" (TD 217).

d. Fourth stage: the deluge of the fire of justice and the Last Judgment.

Montfort describes the end of time and the world from a pneumatological and then a Christological perspective. In the first, the deluge of the fire of love will be followed by the deluge of the fire of justice, an expression of divine anger, which "reduces the whole world to ashes" (PM 16-17). In the Christological version, the reign of Christ in the world is followed, as if in continuation of his Second Coming or the Parousia, by the universal judgment: God will "come and reign over all the earth and to judge the living and the dead" (SM 58). Then the end times themselves will end, and the true eschatology—that is, eternity—will begin.​


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d. Fourth stage: the deluge of the fire of justice and the Last Judgment.

Montfort describes the end of time and the world from a pneumatological and then a Christological perspective. In the first, the deluge of the fire of love will be followed by the deluge of the fire of justice, an expression of divine anger, which "reduces the whole world to ashes" (PM 16-17). In the Christological version, the reign of Christ in the world is followed, as if in continuation of his Second Coming or the Parousia, by the universal judgment: God will "come and reign over all the earth and to judge the living and the dead" (SM 58). Then the end times themselves will end, and the true eschatology—that is, eternity—will begin.
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Welcome LivingWordUnity!

Let us clarify what the ‘Deluge of fire’ actually is. Psalms tells us that fire consumes the earth, and mountains melt like wax, as Jesus comes to Rule the World with Justice. Well how can Jesus Rule the people with Justice on earth, if the world is all burnt up? Revelation tells us that it is the Sword of Christ’s mouth which slays the unrepentant wicked at Armageddon. The Sword of Christ’s Mouth is Jesus lips professing sinners bound to their sins. It is Spiritual death fire which is delivered by Jesus and His Combat Angels of the Apocalypse, at Armageddon, which consumes the earth in fire, as Jesus takes His Throne as King and Ruler of the world.

Once Jesus and His Combat Angels hurl the unrepentant wicked into the fires of hell, then Jesus will rule over new born Zion with Justice. With Jesus Ruling the world, Israel is Restored and Zion is born. It is the post Armageddon Catholic Church which will become the New Jerusalem, that God will Restore as Zion.

What do you think?


Psalms 96:11
Let the heavens be glad and the earth rejoice; let the sea and what fills it resound; let the plains be joyful and all that is in them. Then let all the trees of the forest rejoice before the LORD who comes, who comes to govern the earth, To govern the world with justice and the peoples with faithfulness.


Psalms 97
The LORD is king; let the earth rejoice; let the many islands be glad. Cloud and darkness surround the Lord; justice and right are the foundation of his throne. Fire goes before him; everywhere it consumes the foes. Lightning illumines the world; the earth sees and trembles. The mountains melt like wax before the LORD, before the Lord of all the earth. The heavens proclaim God’s justice; all peoples see his glory. All who serve idols are put to shame, who glory in worthless things; all gods bow down before you. Zion hears and is glad, and the cities of Judah rejoice because of your judgments, O LORD. You, LORD, are the Most High over all the earth, exalted far above all gods. The LORD loves those who hate evil, protects the lives of the faithful, rescues them from the hand of the wicked. Light dawns for the just; gladness, for the honest of heart. Rejoice in the LORD, you just, and praise his holy name.

Revelation 19:11 The King of kings.
The heavens were opened, and as I looked on, a white horse appeared; its rider was called "The Faithful and True." Justice is his standard in passing judgment and in waging war. His eyes blazed like fire, and on his head were many diadems. Inscribed on his person was a name known to no one but himself. He wore a cloak that had been dipped in blood, and his name was the Word of God. The armies of heaven were behind him riding white horses and dressed in fine linen, pure and white. Out of his mouth came a sharp sword for striking down the nations. He will shepherd them with an iron rod; it is he who will tread out in the winepress the blazing wrath of God the Almighty. A name was written on the part of the cloak that covered his thigh: "King of kings and Lord of lords."...

Matthew 13:38
The weeds are the followers of the evil one and the enemy who sowed them them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the world, while the harvesters are the angels. Just as weeds are collected and burned, so will it be at the end of the world. The Son of Man will dispatch his angels to collect from his kingdom all who draw others to apostasy, and all evildoers. The angels will hurl them into the fiery furnace where they will wail and grind their teeth. Then the saints will shine like the sun in their Father's kingdom.


“J.M.J. The third part of the secret revealed at the Cova da Iria-Fatima, on 13 July 1917.

we saw an Angel with a flaming sword in his left hand; flashing, it gave out flames that
looked as though they would set the world on fire;
but they died out in contact with the splendour that Our Lady radiated towards him from her right hand: pointing to the earth with his right hand, the Angel cried out in a loud voice: ‘Penance, Penance, Penance!' .

Quoted from http: www.ewtn.com/fatima/apparitions/third_secret/fatima.htm

Zephaniah 3:8 THE NATIONS PUNISHED AND JERUSALEM RESTORED

Therefore, wait for me—oracle of the LORD— until the day when I arise as accuser; For it is my decision to gather nations, to assemble kingdoms, In order to pour out upon them my wrath, all my blazing anger; For in the fire of my passion all the earth will be consumed. For then I will make pure the speech of the peoples, That they all may call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one accord;
From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia and as far as the recesses of the North, they shall bring me offerings. On that day You will not be ashamed of all your deeds, when you rebelled against me; For then I will remove from your midst the proud braggarts, And you shall no longer exalt yourself on my holy mountain. But I will leave as a remnant in your midst a people humble and lowly, Who shall take refuge in the name of the LORD— the remnant of Israel. They shall do no wrong and speak no lies; Nor shall there be found in their mouths a deceitful tongue; They shall pasture and lie down with none to disturb them. Shout for joy, daughter Zion! sing joyfully, Israel! Be glad and exult with all your heart, daughter Jerusalem! The LORD has removed the judgment against you, he has turned away your enemies; The King of Israel, the LORD, is in your midst, you have no further misfortune to fear. On that day, it shall be said to Jerusalem: Do not fear, Zion, do not be discouraged! The LORD, your God, is in your midst, a mighty savior, Who will rejoice over you with gladness, and renew you in his love, Who will sing joyfully because of you, as on festival days. I will remove disaster from among you, so that no one may recount your disgrace. At that time I will deal with all who oppress you; I will save the lame, and assemble the outcasts; I will give them praise and renown in every land where they were shamed. At that time I will bring you home, and at that time I will gather you; For I will give you renown and praise, among all the peoples of the earth, When I bring about your restoration before your very eyes, says the LORD

Isaiah 66:7 Mother Zion

Before she is in labor, she gives birth; Before her pangs come upon her, she delivers a male child. Who ever heard of such a thing, or who ever saw the like? Can a land be brought forth in one day, or a nation be born in a single moment? Yet Zion was scarcely in labor when she bore her children. Shall I bring a mother to the point of birth, and yet not let her child be born? says the LORD. Or shall I who bring to birth yet close her womb? says your God. Rejoice with Jerusalem and be glad because of her, all you who love her; Rejoice with her in her joy, all you who mourn over her
-So that you may nurse and be satisfied from her consoling breast; That you may drink with delight at her abundant breasts!

For thus says the LORD: I will spread prosperity over her like a river, like an overflowing torrent, the wealth of nations. You shall nurse, carried in her arms, cradled upon her knees; As a mother comforts her child, so I will comfort you; in Jerusalem you shall find your comfort. You will see and your heart shall exult, and your bodies shall flourish like the grass; The LORD’s power shall be revealed to his servants, but to his enemies, his wrath. For see, the LORD will come in fire, his chariots like the stormwind; To wreak his anger in burning rage and his rebuke in fiery flames. For with fire the LORD shall enter into judgment, and, with his sword, against all flesh; Those slain by the LORD shall be many. Those who sanctify and purify themselves to go into the gardens, following one who stands within, eating pig’s flesh, abominable things, and mice, shall all together come to an end, with their deeds and purposes—oracle of the LORD.

God Gathers the Nations.

I am coming to gather all nations and tongues; they shall come and see my glory. I will place a sign among them; from them I will send survivors to the nations: to Tarshish, Put and Lud, Mosoch, Tubal and Javan, to the distant coastlands which have never heard of my fame, or seen my glory; and they shall proclaim my glory among the nations. They shall bring all your kin from all the nations as an offering to the LORD, on horses and in chariots, in carts, upon mules and dromedaries, to Jerusalem, my holy mountain, says the LORD, just as the Israelites bring their grain offering in a clean vessel to the house of the LORD. Some of these I will take as priests and Levites, says the LORD. Just as the new heavens and the new earth which I am making Shall endure before me—oracle of the LORD—so shall your descendants and your name endure. From new moon to new moon, and from sabbath to sabbath, All flesh shall come to worship before me, says the LORD. They shall go out and see the corpses of the people who rebelled against me; For their worm shall not die, their fire shall not be extinguished; and they shall be an abhorrence to all flesh.

Mark 9:40
Anyone who is not against us is with us. Any man who gives you a drink of water because you belong to Christ will not, I assure you, go without his reward. But it would be better if anyone who leads astray one of these simple believers were to be plunged in the sea with a great millstone fastened around his neck.

"If your hand is your difficulty, cut it off! Better for you to enter life maimed than to keep both hands and enter Gehenna with its unquenchable fire. If your foot is your undoing, cut it off! Better for you to enter life crippled than to be thrown into Gehenna with both feet. If your eye is your downfall, tear it out! Better you enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to be thrown with both eyes into Gehenna, where 'the worm dies not and the fire is never extingusihed.'
 
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My understanding is that when Christ returns, on "the day of the Lord", the entire universe will disappear. It was made from nothing, "Ex Nihilo", adds up to nothing (sum zero energy universe - A Universe from Nothing « Astronomical Society), and will return to nothing, when the real universe inhabited by the spiritual powers comes crashing in.

Saint Peter, assuming he was the author of 2 Peter, has told us, and he was on first name terms with Christ - very much so. Christ would have told him in no uncertain terms what would happen on the day He returned, like a "thief in the night", when we least expect it. The irony is that the earthly rulers and people will want the mountains and hills to fall on them to hide them, but the very hiding places they'll be relying on will just vanish.

2 Peter 3:10 NIV -
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.

Then it will be us and God, and what is called the "Final Judgement" as defined in the Catholic Catechism as follows -


V. THE LAST JUDGMENT

1038 The resurrection of all the dead, "of both the just and the unjust,"623 will precede the Last Judgment. This will be "the hour when all who are in the tombs will hear [the Son of man's] voice and come forth, those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of judgment."624 Then Christ will come "in his glory, and all the angels with him. . . . Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate them one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats, and he will place the sheep at his right hand, but the goats at the left. . . . And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."625

1039 In the presence of Christ, who is Truth itself, the truth of each man's relationship with God will be laid bare.626 The Last Judgment will reveal even to its furthest consequences the good each person has done or failed to do during his earthly life:
 
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My understanding is that when Christ returns, on "the day of the Lord", the entire universe will disappear. It was made from nothing, "Ex Nihilo", adds up to nothing (sum zero energy universe - A Universe from Nothing « Astronomical Society), and will return to nothing, when the real universe inhabited by the spiritual powers comes crashing in.

Saint Peter, assuming he was the author of 2 Peter, has told us, and he was on first name terms with Christ - very much so. Christ would have told him in no uncertain terms what would happen on the day He returned, like a "thief in the night", when we least expect it. The irony is that the earthly rulers and people will want the mountains and hills to fall on them to hide them, but the very hiding places they'll be relying on will just vanish.

2 Peter 3:10 NIV -

Then it will be us and God, and what is called the "Final Judgement" as defined in the Catholic Catechism as follows -
Hello Bob,
So which way are you going to vote in the poll. No, Jesus is not going to Rule on earth? Or No, St. Louis was a heretic for even suggesting that Jesus will Rule on earth? or are you still contemplating a maybe or even a yes?
 
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Hello Bob,
So which way are you going to vote in the poll. No, Jesus is not going to Rule on earth? Or No, St. Louis was a heretic for even suggesting that Jesus will Rule on earth? or are you still contemplating a maybe or even a yes?

For the heck of it, I voted "no" in response to your question, as I think the earth will just disappear and won't be there for Christ to rule on.

I wouldn't call St. Louis de Montfort a "heretic", although I would obviously have a difference of opinion with him on this matter. In the end the way we treated the "least of these My brothers" will have far more importance than our views on eschatology, which won't count for anything in the end, since by that time it will be a fait accompli (like debating whether there'll be a war or not for example - if the war comes, being proven "right" will be of little comfort). And he would have been a far more spiritual man than I am.

I also hold to the opinion that God intends to drive us off the planet quite some time before all the eschatological events occur anyway, and from that time on our earth bound focus will no longer be the centre of all things.

Let's put it this way - if God's the author of history, He's sure been pushing the technological barrow in recent years in human history. We've gone from a wood, string and canvas aircraft flying about 100 metres in 1903, to nuclear weaponry in 1945, to the internet and artificial intelligence, to landing men on the moon in 1969 and buggies on Mars, to sending Voyager spacecraft outside the solar system, to the Hubble Telescope, to fooling around with quantum entanglement, all within a mere century or so.

God's up to something. And He'll put this stuff to some long term use iif I'm any judge.
 
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For the heck of it, I voted "no" in response to your question, as I think the earth will just disappear and won't be there for Christ to rule on.

I wouldn't call St. Louis de Montfort a "heretic", although I would obviously have a difference of opinion with him on this matter. In the end the way we treated the "least of these My brothers" will have far more importance than our views on eschatology, which won't count for anything in the end, since by that time it will be a fait accompli (like debating whether there'll be a war or not for example - if the war comes, being proven "right" will be of little comfort). And he would have been a far more spiritual man than I am.

I also hold to the opinion that God intends to drive us off the planet quite some time before all the eschatological events occur anyway, and from that time on our earth bound focus will no longer be the centre of all things.

Let's put it this way - if God's the author of history, He's sure been pushing the technological barrow in recent years in human history. We've gone from a wood, string and canvas aircraft flying about 100 metres in 1903, to nuclear weaponry in 1945, to the internet and artificial intelligence, to landing men on the moon in 1969 and buggies on Mars, to sending Voyager spacecraft outside the solar system, to the Hubble Telescope, to fooling around with quantum entanglement, all within a mere century or so.

God's up to something. And He'll put this stuff to some long term use iif I'm any judge.
Hello Bob,
Thanks for the poll input.

So what do you think? A great many Christians believe that when they see the nukes come streaming in, this is really the Second Coming of Jesus, and they will exclaim Hallelujah! Finally Jesus is Coming to nuke us all! Out of all the things that Jesus could do, with all His tremendous Power as God, is Jesus really simply going to come to nuke the entire world and put everyone to death? This seems a bit odd.

On technology, God Commanded man not to eat from the tree of knowledge, so I would say that it is not God driving modern technology but the devil.

Bye the way, I do admire you putting your actual name, rather than an anonymous CF made up name.
 
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So what do you think? A great many Christians believe that when they see the nukes come streaming in, this is really the Second Coming of Jesus, and they will exclaim Hallelujah! Finally Jesus is Coming to nuke us all! Out of all the things that Jesus could do, with all His tremendous Power as God, is Jesus really simply going to come to nuke the entire world and put everyone to death? This seems a bit odd.

On technology, God Commanded man not to eat from the tree of knowledge, so I would say that it is not God driving modern technology but the devil.

Bye the way, I do admire you putting your actual name, rather than an anonymous CF made up name.

If you're talking about the Rapture, I think it's a load of tripe. There will only be one Second Coming, not two. The Catholic position as a whole does not accept the Rapture as a doctrinal position.

There may well be nuclear war or wars (if I had to choose I'd say the most likely first case would be India / Pakistan, but that's just my personal opinion), but God won't deliver us from it, any more than He's delivered us from any other war. He didn't stop Hiroshima or Nagasaki, Auschwitz, the Soviet Gulags, the Black Death, the European Wars of Religion, or Genghis Khan, so what makes us think that we've cut a corner in His favourite list? He's not soft.

Incidentally it was the "Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil", not the "Tree of Knowledge". There's a difference. He's given us a brain for a reason. One of those reasons is the pursuit of knowledge.

How we use that knowledge falls under the umbrella tree of Good and Evil. You don't have to read much human history to see that we very often use it for evil, and then call it good.

On the business of using my own name, I sometimes wonder if that's a good idea. So far I haven't copped much flak from it, but the day could come when it becomes a real liability.
 
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Saint Peter, assuming he was the author of 2 Peter, has told us, and he was on first name terms with Christ - very much so. Christ would have told him in no uncertain terms what would happen on the day He returned, like a "thief in the night", when we least expect it. The irony is that the earthly rulers and people will want the mountains and hills to fall on them to hide them, but the very hiding places they'll be relying on will just vanish.

Luke 17:26

As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be in the days of the Son of Man; they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage up to the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. Similarly, as it was in the days of Lot: they were eating, drinking, buying, selling, planting, building; on the day when Lot left Sodom, fire and brimstone rained from the sky to destroy them all. So it will be on the day the Son of Man is revealed.

Hello Bob,

Jesus tells us that His Second Coming will be like the days of Noah and the days of Lot. No one will see it coming. Well, Except for the Survivors! It is the unrepentant wicked to whom Jesus will Come like a thief in the night. Christ's Faithful, like Noah and Lot, will know in advance to prepare themselves for the onslaught of the Wrath of God.

I see Jesus giving us the gifts of Divine Mercy Sunday (which is next Sunday) and the Divine Mercy Chaplet, as Jesus giving us an Ark with which to sail through Armageddon unharmed by God's destruction of the unrepentant wicked going on all around us. Jesus tells us to immerse ourselves in the immense abyss of His Divine Mercy, the Sacraments of Reconciliation and Baptism, reciting the Chaplet of Divine Mercy and the Rosary, and be in the best state of grace you can, through the Power of His Blood.

Kind of hard to believe that all the unrepentant wicked of Noah’s day, watching Noah build the Ark over the years, listening to all Noah’s warnings of God's impending wrath, were totally surprised to see themselves drowning in God’s Wrath. "Wow! This storm came up out of nowhere to take our lives; Like a Thief in the night! Now I sure wish I was on the Ark with Noah!"

JESUS, THE DIVINE MERCY,
by St.Faustina

Tell souls where they are to look for solace; that is, in the Tribunal of Mercy [the Sacrament of Reconciliation] ... it suffices to come with faith to the feet of My representative and to reveal to him one's misery, and the miracle of Divine Mercy will be fully demonstrated. ... Oh, how miserable are those who do not take advantage of the miracle of God's mercy! You will call out in vain, but it will be too late. (1448)​
 
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Apostolic Successors/Combat Angels of the Apocalypse

Matthew 13:38
The weeds are the followers of the evil one and the enemy who sowed them them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the world, while the harvesters are the angels. Just as weeds are collected and burned, so will it be at the end of the world. The Son of Man will dispatch his angels to collect from his kingdom all who draw others to apostasy, and all evildoers. The angels will hurl them into the fiery furnace where they will wail and grind their teeth. Then the saints will shine like the sun in their Father's kingdom.

St. Louis De Montfort is clearly identifying Catholic Apostolic Successors as Christ’s great, Combat Angels of the Apocalypse,. In the Book of Revelation, Jesus refers to His Catholic Bishops as Angels. Jesus blew the Holy Spirit on His Apostles and their Successors and promised them that anyone whom they call upon Him to bind or loost of sin, He will do so in heaven. Apostolic Successors, in possession of the Sword of Christ’s mouth, which is Christ's Power to bind sin, certainly have the firepower to hurl the wicked into hell. Apostolic Successors, in possession of Christ’s power to loost sins, certainly have the power to gather Christ’s faithful into His Kingdom Come. St. Louis is certainly identifying Christ’s great Combat Angels of the Apocalypse as Apostolic Successors.

ST. LOUIS DE MONTFORT, END TIMES

Divine intervention within salvation history


...The work of the apostles of the end times swings essentially around two poles, one negative, the other positive: "destroying sin and establishing the reign of Jesus Christ" (SM 59). The first pole involves a series of aggressive actions against the forces of evil: they” will give battle, overthrowing and crushing", they "will thunder against sin, they will storm against the world, they will strike down the devil and his followers", they "will be the odor of death to the great, the rich and the proud of this world". In the PM, along the same lines, Montfort foresees missionaries who will attack and overthrow the "enemies of God", who will "crush the head of the serpent", "address their ardent prayers to heaven, turning them into the weapons which will overcome or convert their enemies".

Quoted from: JESUS LIVING IN MARY: HANDBOOK OF THE SPIRITUALITY OF ST. LOUIS DE MONTFORT END TIMES

MALACHI 3:16
Then they who fear the LORD spoke with one another, and the LORD listened attentively; And a record book was written before him of those who fear the LORD and trust in his name. And they shall be mine, says the LORD of hosts, my own special possession, on the day I take action. And I will have compassion on them,For lo, the day is coming, blazing like an oven, when all the proud and all evildoers will be stubble, And the day that is coming will set them on fire, leaving them neither root nor branch, says the LORD of hosts. But for you who fear my name, there will arise the sun of justice with its healing rays; And you will gambol like calves out of the stall and tread down the wicked; They will become ashes under the soles of your feet, on the day I take action, says the LORD of hosts. Remember the law of Moses my servant, which I enjoined him on Horeb, The statutes and ordinances for all Israel.

Isaiah 11:1 The Rule of Immanuel
But a shoot shall sprout from the stump of Jesse, and from his roots a bud shall blossom
. The spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him: a spirit of wisdom and of understanding, A spirit of counsel and of strength, a spirit of knowledge and of fear of the LORD, and his delight shall be the fear of the LORD. Not by appearance shall he judge, nor by hearsay shall he decide, But he shall judge the poor with justice, and decide fairly for the land’s afflicted. He shall strike the ruthless with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips he shall slay the wicked. Justice shall be the band around his waist, and faithfulness a belt upon his hips. Then the wolf shall be a guest of the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the young goat; The calf and the young lion shall browse together, with a little child to guide them.

NAB REV 19:11 The King of Kings.
The heavens were opened, and as I looked on, a white horse appeared; its rider was called "The Faithful and True." Justice is his standard in passing judgment and in
waging war. His eyes blazed like fire, and on his head were many diadems. Inscribed on his person was a name known to no one but himself. He wore a cloak that had been dipped in blood, and his name was the Word of God. The armies of heaven were behind him riding white horses and dressed in fine linen, pure and white. Out of his mouth came a sharp sword for striking down the nations. He will shepherd them with an iron rod; it is he who will tread out in the winepress the blazing wrath of God the Almighty. A name was written on the part of the cloak that covered his thigh: "King of kings and Lord of lords."...
 
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Apostolic Successors, Reading a scroll of Auto-Anathemas, putting Christ's Laws into enforcement on Earth,
Is what enthrones Jesus as King and Ruler of the World

Matthew 16:13
Jesus replied, "Blest are you, Simon son of John! No mere man has revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. I for my part declare to you, you are 'Rock,' and on this rock I will build my church,and the jaws of death shall not prevail against it. I will entrust to you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you declare bound on earth shall be bound in heaven; whatever you declare loosed on earth shall be loosed in heaven." Then he strictly ordered his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Messiah.

Revelation 1:16
A sharp, two-edged sword came out of his mouth
, and his face shone like the sun at its brightest. When I caught sight of him I fell down at his feet as though dead, he touched me with his right hand and said: "There is nothing to fear. I am the First and the Last and the One who lives. Once I was dead but now I live-- forever and ever. I hold the keys of death and the nether world."

Isaiah 11:4 The Rule of Immanuel
He shall strike the ruthless with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips he shall slay the wicked.

NAB LEV 20 Penalties for Various Sins.
The LORD said to Moses, "Tell the Israelites: Anyone, whether an Israelite or an alien residing in Israel who gives any of his offspring to Molech shall be put to death. Let his fellow citizens stone him. I myself will turn against such a man and cut him off from the body of his people: for in giving his offspring to Molech, he has defiled my sanctuary and profaned my holy name."


ANATHEMA

In passing this sentence, the pontiff is vested in amice, stole, and a violet cope, wearing his mitre, and assisted by twelve priests clad in their surplices and holding lighted candles. He takes his seat in front of the altar or in some other suitable place, amid pronounces the formula of anathema which ends with these words: Wherefore in the name of God the All-powerful, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, of the Blessed Peter, Prince of the Apostles, and of all the saints, in virtue of the power which has been given us of binding and loosing in Heaven and on earth, we deprive N-- himself and all his accomplices and all his abettors of the Communion of the Body and Blood of our Lord, we separate him from the society of all Christians, we exclude him from the bosom of our Holy Mother the Church in Heaven and on earth, we declare him excommunicated and anathematized and we judge him condemned to eternal fire with Satan and his angels and all the reprobate , so long as he will not burst the fetters of the demon, do penance and satisfy the Church; we deliver him to Satan to mortify his body, that his soul may be saved on the day of judgment."...

...He who dares to despise our decision, let him be stricken with anathema maranatha, i.e. may he be damned at the coming of the Lord, may he have his place with Judas Iscariot, he and his companions.

Quoted from: New Advent Catholic Encyclopedia - Anathema

Jesus is not King and Ruler of the world until His Subjects put His Laws into enforcement on earth. When they do, Jesus is Crowned as King and Ruler of the world.

It is not hard to see that the ‘small scroll’ which an angel reads, releasing the Woes of Revelation and initiating Messianic Reign, is a list of, worldwide, binding on all people, auto-anathemas, read by an Apostolic Successor. Jesus Commanded His Church that if Her eye, hand or foot is Her undoing, She is to Cut it Off, and throw it into hell. Jesus Commands His Church that She is not to let any of Her limbs pull the whole Body of His Church into hell. Apostolic Successors reading a small scroll of auto-anathemas, hurling the unrepentant wicked into hell, in order to pull the Body of Christ’s Church back from the edge of the abyss of hell, is just what Jesus Commanded them to do to protect His Church.

In both New Testament and Old Testament, God's people are described as one body. As a surgeon cuts off a cancerous limb to preserve life for the rest of the body so also are we to cut off that portion of the body-of-people who cause the body-of-people physical or spiritual death. Cut-off is God's term for stoning someone or spiritually removing someone from eternal life.

Rather than have the whole body-of-people destroyed, as in Noah's time, now Moses is to cut off that portion of the body-of-people which leads the body-of-Israelites into damnation. Moses is to throw off into death those who bring scandalous conduct to the body-of-Israelite people. Jesus tells Peter to "cut off" and throw into hell that portion of the body which pulls the body toward damnation. A fleshly limb cannot be thrown into hell. Only souls are thrown into hell. If the hand, foot or eye of the body of the Church, or the body of all people on earth, is the Church's down fall, cut it off and throw it into Gehenna, aka hell.

Both Jesus and Moses instruct us to cut off that portion of the body of people which causes us harm. Through Jesus and Moses teaching on when to "cut off" we learn when to God wills us to destroy with stones or to destroy with "holding sins bound" to protect the innocent, Body of His Precious Bride, the Church.

Matthew 18:5
"Whoever welcomes one such child for my sake welcomes me. On the other hand, it would be better for anyone who leads astray one of these little ones who believes in me, to be drown by a millstone around his neck, in the depths of the sea. What terrible things will come on the world through scandal! It is inevitable that scandal should occur. Nonetheless, woe to that man through whom scandal comes! If your hand or foot is your undoing, cut it off and throw it from you! Better to enter life maimed or crippled than be thrown with two hands or feet into endless fire. If your eye is your downfall, gouge it out and cast it from you! Better to enter life with one eye than be thrown with both into fiery Gehenna.


ZECHARIAH 5:1
Then I raised my eyes again and saw a scroll flying. “What do you see?” he asked me. I answered, “I see a scroll flying; it is twenty cubits long and ten cubits wide.” Then he said to me: This is the curse which is to go forth over the whole earth; in accordance with it shall every thief be swept away, and in accordance with it shall every perjurer be expelled from here. I will send it forth, says the LORD of hosts, and it shall come into the house of the thief, or into the house of him who perjures himself with my name; it shall lodge within his house, consuming it, timber and stones.”

Revelation 10:1
Then I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven wrapped in a cloud, with a halo around his head; his face was like the sun and his feet were like pillars of fire. In his hand he held a small scroll that had been opened. He placed his right foot on the sea and his left foot on the land, and then he cried out in a loud voice as a lion roars. When he cried out, the seven thunders raised their voices, too.
When the seven thunders had spoken, I was about to write it down; but I heard a voice from heaven say, “Seal up what the seven thunders have spoken, but do not write it down.” Then the angel I saw standing on the sea and on the land raised his right hand to heaven and swore by the one who lives forever and ever, who created heaven and earth and sea and all that is in them, There shall be no more delay. At the time when you hear the seventh angel blow his trumpet, the mysterious plan of God shall be fulfilled, as he promised to his servants the prophets.”

Revelation 19:11 The King of kings.
The heavens were opened, and as I looked on, a white horse appeared; its rider was called "The Faithful and True." Justice is his standard in passing judgment and in waging war. His eyes blazed like fire, and on his head were many diadems. Inscribed on his person was a name known to no one but himself. He wore a cloak that had been dipped in blood, and his name was the Word of God. The armies of heaven were behind him riding white horses and dressed in fine linen, pure and white. Out of his mouth came a sharp sword for striking down the nations. He will shepherd them with an iron rod; it is he who will tread out in the winepress the blazing wrath of God the Almighty. A name was written on the part of the cloak that covered his thigh: "King of kings and Lord of lords."...


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A portion from the "Third Secret of Fatima

we saw an Angel with a flaming sword in his left hand; flashing, it gave out flames that looked as though they would set the world on fire; but they died out in contact with the splendour that Our Lady radiated towards him from her right hand: pointing to the earth with his right hand, the Angel cried out in a loud voice: ‘Penance, Penance, Penance!' .
Quoted from: www.ewtn.com/fatima/apparitions/third_secret/fatima.htm

Obadiah 1:17 Judah Shall Be Restored.

But on Mount Zion there shall be a portion saved; the mountain shall be holy, And the house of Jacob shall take possession of those that dispossessed them.
The house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame; The house of Esau shall be stubble, and they shall set them ablaze and devour them; Then none shall survive of the house of Esau, for the LORD has spoken. They shall occupy the Negeb, the mount of Esau, and the foothills of the Philistines; And they shall occupy the lands of Ephraim and the lands of Samaria, and Benjamin shall occupy Gilead. The captives of the host of the children of Israel shall occupy the Canaanite land as far as Zarephath, And the captives of Jerusalem who are in Sepharad shall occupy the cities of the Negeb. And saviors shall ascend Mount Zion to rule the mount of Esau, and the kingship shall be the LORD'S.

Psalms 47:6
God mounts the throne amid shouts of joy; the LORD, amid trumpet blasts.
Sing praise to God, sing praise; sing praise to our king, sing praise. God is king over all the earth; sing hymns of praise. God rules over the nations; God sits upon his holy throne. The princes of the peoples assemble with the people of the God of Abraham. For the rulers of the earth belong to God, who is enthroned on high.

A portion from the "Third Secret of Fatima"

a Bishop dressed in White ‘we had the impression that it was the Holy Father'. Other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious going up a steep mountain, at the top of which there was a big Cross of rough-hewn trunks as of a cork-tree with the bark
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Matthew 6:9 The Lord’s Prayer.

“This is how you are to pray:
Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,

your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as in heaven.

Give us today our daily bread;
and forgive us our debts,

as we forgive our debtors;
and do not subject us to the final test, but deliver us from the evil one.

ACTS 26:17
I shall deliver you from this people and from the Gentiles to whom I send you, to open their eyes that they may turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may obtain forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who have been consecrated by faith in me.’

Luke 21:24
They will fall by the edge of the sword and be taken as captives to all the Gentiles; and Jerusalem will be trampled underfoot by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled

Can we talk about Jesus’ Promise, in Acts 26:17, to deliver us from the power of the Gentiles and Satan to the Power of God, without a fellow OBOB member running to the moderators to have my thread destroyed? The Church has prayed bazzilions of Our Fathers, begging God for His Kingdom Come, and deliverance from the evil one.

Satan can fall more than once, you know. So the Church teaches that Satan fell from heaven in the first nanoseconds of Creation. I am not contradicting this. Please don’t silently run to the moderators and have my thread destroyed, please. Instead, come here and lets talk about it.

God was King and Ruler over Israel from the Exodus till the fall of Judah in 587 B.C.. God came to reside in Israel One in a stone temple. This raised Israel up into the heavens, because God worked massive miracles in their midst. Because of Israel’s great sins, God’s presence left Israel and Israel fell from heaven to earth, because God no longer worked massive miracles in their midst. God put Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, and his world dominant secular power successors, as rulers over Israel and the world. Nebuchadnezzar was just as ruthless as Adolf Hitler. God still has secular power, as His God authorized rulers on earth, ruling over Israel and the world today in 2018.

Jesus is going to bring His Presence back to earth, along with all His Power and Glory through massive miracles. All the world will see, Light to the Nations, Jesus residing in the Body of His Church, the Catholic Church, in New born Zion, and the world will stream to Him, through the gates of the Sacraments of Baptism and Reconciliation. Now the Catholic Church will be raised up into the heavens as Israel was raised up into the heavens, back in their glory days. Secular power, aka 'the Gentiles", ruling over Israel, starting with king Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon, till this day, will fall and be smashed to pieces by Jesus, as Jesus takes over as King and Ruler of the world.

Isaiah 14:12 The King of Babylon.
How have you fallen from the heavens, O morning star, son of the dawn! How are you cut down to the ground,
you who mowed down the nations! You said in your heart: “I will scale the heavens; Above the stars of God I will set up my throne; I will take my seat on the Mount of Assembly, in the recesses of the North. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will be like the Most High!” Yet down to the nether world you go to the recesses of the pit!

Daniel 2:31
“In your vision, O king, you saw a statue, very large and exceedingly bright, terrifying in appearance as it stood before you. The head of the statue was pure gold, its chest and arms were silver, its belly and thighs bronze, the legs iron, its feet partly iron and partly tile. While you looked at the statue, a stone which was hewn from a mountain without a hand being put to it, struck its iron and tile feet, breaking them in pieces. The iron, tile, bronze, silver, and gold all crumbled at once, fine as the chaff on the threshing floor in summer, and the wind blew them away without leaving a trace. But the stone that struck the statue became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.


Luke 20:17
'The stone which the builders rejected has become the keystone of the structure'? The man who falls on that stone will be smashed to pieces, It will make dust of anyone on whom it falls."

This was the dream; the interpretation we shall also give in the king’s presence. You, O king, are the king of kings; to you the God of heaven has given dominion and strength, power and glory; men, wild beasts, and birds of the air, wherever they may dwell, he has handed over to you, making you ruler over them all; you are the head of gold. Another kingdom shall take your place,inferior to yours, then a third kingdom, of bronze, which shall rule over the whole earth. There shall be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron; it shall break in pieces and subdue all these others, just as iron breaks in pieces and crushes everything else. The feet and toes you saw, partly of potter’s tile and partly of iron, mean that it shall be a divided kingdom, but yet have some of the hardness of iron. As you saw the iron mixed with clay tile, and the toes partly iron and partly tile, the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly fragile. The iron mixed with clay tile means that they shall seal their alliances by intermarriage, but they shall not stay united, any more than iron mixes with clay. In the lifetime of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that shall never be destroyed or delivered up to another people; rather, it shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and put an end to them, and it shall stand forever. That is the meaning of the stone you saw hewn from the mountain without a hand being put to it, which broke in pieces the tile, iron, bronze, silver, and gold. The great God has revealed to the king what shall be in the future; this is exactly what you dreamed, and its meaning is sure.”

Revelation 12:5
She gave birth to a son--a boy destined to shepherd all the nations with an iron rod. Her child was caught up to God and to his throne. The woman herself fled into the desert, where a special place had been prepared for her by God; there she was taken care of for twelve hundred and sixty days...


...Then war broke out in heaven; Michael and his angels battled against the dragon. Although the dragon and his angels fought back, they were overpowered and lost their place in heaven. The huge dragon, the ancient serpent known as the devil or Satan, the seducer of the whole world, was driven out; he was hurled down to earth and his minions with him. Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: "Now have salvation and power come, the reign of our God and the authority of his Anointed One.
 
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Indiana Jones and the Ancient Keys to the Lost City of Eden

We have all seen Indiana Jones, and other Hollywood movies, where the main character studies through ancient manuscripts and uses ancient artifacts to turn on ancient mechanisms. Well Indiana Jones is a very close example of how we are going to enter into Christ’s Kingdom Come. We are going to locate, and throw the ancient switch to Christ’s Kingdom Come, from right here on earth.

The term ‘Apocalypse’ means ‘to bring to light’. The term ‘Revelation’ means to come to the light of understanding. The Book of Revelation is simply a collection of encrypted codes, which God will send someone to decipher, at His chosen appointed time, as God did through the prophet Daniel, in Daniel’s time in Church history. I am sorry, but there are going to be no pre-existing Catholic Church documents, written by Church Fathers a thousand years ago, which decipher the Book of Revelation, to get us into Messianic Reign. The big, huge event in the Book of Revelation is Jesus being crowned as King and Ruler of the world. The Book of Revelation is an ancient encrypted instruction booklet on how to do this. Recent locutions from Jesus and apparitions from the Blessed Mother, in the past couple hundred years, are indicating that God wills us to throw the switch, and initiate Messianic Reign, Now!

With Jesus, a descendant of King David, Ruling the world, Zion is born and Israel is Restored. Zion is God’s Holy City on earth, where the Lamb Comes to reside in the midst of His people, the post Armageddon Catholic Church. Please reread the Book of Isaiah and you will see the glories of Zion. While reading the Book of Isaiah, I told myself, WoW! This is really going to be great! As I come to understandings of what codes in the Book of Revelation indicate, I go back and reread the entire Bible looking for scripture which relates to that Apocalyptic code. An angel with a fiery sword standing between man and Christ’s gift of eternal life, is symbolic for Christ’s Kingdom Come. I was filled with awe and wonder when I saw this symbol residing in Garden of Eden. Not only is Jesus about to Restore the great Kingdom of Israel; Jesus is going to Restore His faithful, in the Body of His Church, the Catholic Church, to man’s pre-fallen state, on earth, in the Garden of Eden. WOW! Hallelujah! Jesus will wipe away our every tear!

The third part of the secret revealed at the Cova da Iria-Fatima, on 13 July 1917

we saw an Angel with a flaming sword in his left hand; flashing, it gave out flames that looked as though they would set the world on fire; but they died out in contact with the splendour that Our Lady radiated towards him from her right hand: pointing to the earth with his right hand, the Angel cried out in a loud voice: ‘Penance, Penance, Penance!' .

Genesis 3:21 Expulsion from Eden.
Then the LORD God said: See! The man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil! Now, what if he also reaches out his hand to take fruit from the tree of life, and eats of it and lives forever?
The LORD God therefore banished him from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from which he had been taken. He expelled the man, stationing the cherubim and the fiery revolving sword east of the garden of Eden, to guard the way to the tree of life.
In Ezekiel 28:13, it looks like Adam and Eve are in heaven, but we know they are not, they are in the Garden of Eden, on earth. Lamentations 2:1 tells us that Israel was cast down from heaven to earth. We know that Israel was never in heaven but resided on earth. It is actually God removing His Presence from Adam and Eve, and Israel, which scripture describes as falling from heaven to earth. When Jesus arrives at His Second Coming, He will bring His Presence to earth, and place it within His Church, the Catholic Church. At this time, the Church will be Restored to, not only the glory of the earthly kingdom of Israel, but also the earthly glory that Adam and Eve had when they resided in the Garden of Eden. Jesus is going to place His Church on “the Mountain of God” which is the Restored Kingdom of Israel, which will reside in a Restored Garden of Eden, on earth. Hallelujah! Come Lord Jesus and Reign over us!

Lamentations 2:1
How the Lord in his wrath has detested daughter Zion! He has cast down from heaven to earth the glory of Israel, Unmindful of his footstool on the day of his wrath. The Lord has consumed without pity all the dwellings of Jacob; He has torn down in his anger the fortresses of daughter Judah; He has brought to the ground in dishonor her king and her princes.

2 Kings 24:18
The LORD’S anger befell Jerusalem and Judah till he cast them out from his presence.

Ezekiel 28:13
In Eden, the garden of God, you were, and every precious stone was your covering
(carnelian, topaz, and beryl, chrysolite, onyx, and jasper, sapphire, garnet, and emerald); Of gold your pendants and jewels were made, on the day you were created. With the Cherub I placed you; you were on the holy mountain of God, walking among the fiery stones. Blameless you were in your conduct from the day you were created, Until evil was found in you, the result of your far-flung trade; violence was your business, and you sinned. Then I banned you from the mountain of God; the Cherub drove you from among the fiery stones.

I have deciphered the path that the Catholic Church is to take to initiate Messianic Reign.
 
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Welcome Rhamiel!

At one of the Apparitions of the Blessed Mother of Fatima, someone almost stepped on her dress (of course the person could not see the Blessed Mother); The Blessed Mother called out a stern reprimand, "Do not come close! Tell the people to stay away until they have gone to confession! Then they may come close to me."

In our age, an age more evil than the days before the Flood or the days of Sodom and Gomorrah, how do we make a Holy Temple on earth for Jesus to Come and reside with His people? Armageddon is known as 'The Valley of Decision'; People get to choose whose side they want to be on, Jesus' or Satan's. It is the 'Keys to the Kingdom' which prepare the earth for Jesus to Come and dwell in our midst. We can do this the easy way, through the Sacraments of Baptism and Reconciliation, or the hard way, Church anathema, casting the unrepentant wicked into hell, in preparing the earth for Christ's Coming to dwell in our midst.

I hope you have read my Divine Mercy Sunday thread. Jesus has opened the doors to His Mercy wide open. Jesus tells us that simply praying His Divine Mercy Chaplet, and on the day of God's Wrath, He will intervene and do all He can to assist you in not being cast into hell. At the hour of Armageddon, the door to Jesus’ offer on Divine Mercy will close as the door to Christ's Justice on earth is opened.

In the Book of Revelation, Jesus refers to His Catholic Bishops as ‘angels’. The angels of Revelation, putting God’s seal on God’s people, are actually Catholic Priests putting God’s seal on God’s people in the Confessional. It is through the Sacrament of Reconciliation that Christ’s Church puts on Her Wedding Garment in preparation for Christ’s arrival. Jesus’ Sacrament of Reconciliation is Jesus’ lips loosting a sinners sins.

Jesus is not King and Ruler of the world until His subjects put His Laws into enforcement on earth. In the Book of Revelation, the scroll the angel reads, immediately before Jesus is crowned as King and Ruler of the World, is a list of Church anathemas, binding on all the people of the world. Catholic Church anathema is Jesus lips binding sinners to their sins. Old Testament scriptures indicate it only takes one hour to read the scroll. With Jesus, a Descendant of King David, Ruling the world, Israel is Restored and God’s Holy City, Zion is born on earth.

The first thing on our New King Jesus’ agenda is to bring His Justice to earth. Only a Remnant survives Jesus’ searing blasts of Justice. Three days later, Jesus’ faithful, who have immersed themselves in the abyss of His Great Mercy ahead of time, will emerge from their darkened homes, where they have been praying their rosaries for three days straight, and they will be in Christ’s Kingdom Come.

God says that He will build a huge fiery wall and His people will roam in His Temple as if they were in open country. The walls of ‘The New Jerusalem’ will be built of Catholic Church anathemas. If someone, within the Walls of Christ’s new born Holy City chooses sin, they are automatically anathematized out ‘cast into the darkness outside’. Those cast out will have to go to confession and get their anathema released through the Sacrament of Reconciliation. The Sacraments of Baptism and Reconciliation are the only gates into Christ’s Holy City on earth, the New Jerusalem. God tells us that the gates to Zion will be open 24/7.

For those who live in Christ’s Kingdom Come, God’s Holy City, The New Jerusalem, Zion, they will be residing in a Restored Garden of Eden. This will be the ‘Golden Era of Mankind’, that the Blessed Mother has Promised us. Those living within the Walls of Zion will see their handicapped children healed into perfect health. They will not fear war or worry about what they will eat. Their only concern will be obedience, praying and worshiping God and producing an abundance of the fruit of the Kingdom of God, which the fruit of the Kingdom of God is human free willed love for God. The nations will see Christ’s great Light to the Nations shining out from this Restored Garden of Eden and they will stream to her through her gates of the Sacraments of Baptism and Reconciliation.

So what if we have Apostolic Successors who do not want to take us into Christ’s Kingdom Come on earth? Revelation 11 does tell us that right before Messianic Reign is initiated, Satan will have killed the Two Witnesses, which the Two Witnesses look like the Catholic and Jewish Churches on earth. In Luke 18:1 Jesus tells us what to do. With billions, or at least hundreds of millions, of Christ’s faithful praying non-stop, writing letters, holding vigils in St. Peter’s square, all begging for Catholic Apostolic Successors to take us into Christ’s Kingdom Come, it will be hard for Apostolic Successors to refuse us.

Luke 18:1 The Parable of the Persistent Widow.

Then he told them a parable about the necessity for them to pray always without becoming weary. He said, “There was a judge in a certain town who neither feared God nor respected any human being. And a widow in that town used to come to him and say, ‘Render a just decision for me against my adversary.’ For a long time the judge was unwilling, but eventually he thought, ‘While it is true that I neither fear God nor respect any human being, because this widow keeps bothering me I shall deliver a just decision for her lest she finally come and strike me.’” The Lord said,Pay attention to what the dishonest judge says. Will not God then secure the rights of his chosen ones who call out to him day and night? Will he be slow to answer them? I tell you, he will see to it that justice is done for them speedily. But when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on earth?”
 
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Hello Rhamiel,

Any comments? I would think that all the scripture and analysis of apparitions that I have provided thus far, should easily generate a little discussion.

You can go to my web site, which acts as a warehouse of related scriptures for me to pull from, to bring here to discuss. I would be happy if you did visit my site. The Church entering into Messianic Reign is all laid out at my site, with a massive amount of scripture backing up my concepts.

www.ILOVEYOUGOD.com
 
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Hey kids! We have a third Christian Holiday coming your way! Right behind Easter and Christmas will be the enthronement of Jesus Christ as King and Ruler of the world. This Christian Holiday will be just as big as Christmas and Easter.

It was a big deal when Moses lead Israel out of Egypt in the Exodus. Israel became a nation as they entered into the Promised Land One. God became King over Israel. Because of the massive sins of Israel, God cast Israel out of the Promised Land. God
relinquished His Kingship over Israel and put king Nebuchadnezzar, secular power, as king and ruler over Israel. We are still living under the power of secular power today, in the year 2018. In Daniel 2, scriptures foresee Jesus smashing secular power into pieces as He takes over as King and Ruler of the world. God will once again Rule over Israel and the world, through the Power of His Son, Jesus Christ. Jeremiah 23 tells us that, in our future, we will no longer celebrate Passover, but instead, celebrate God's deliverance of His People, from the power of secular kings, to the Power of God, in Messianic Reign. Hallelujah!

I do not know if you kids will get candy or presents, but you are looking at a near future third Christian Holiday. Yeah!


Jerimiah 23:1
Woe to the shepherds who mislead and scatter the flock of my pasture, says the LORD. Therefore, thus says the LORD, the God of Israel, against the shepherds who shepherd my people: You have scattered my sheep and driven them away. You have not cared for them, but I will take care to punish your evil deeds. I myself will gather the remnant of my flock from all the lands to which I have driven them and bring them back to their meadow; there they shall increase and multiply. I will appoint shepherds for them who will shepherd them so that they need no longer fear and tremble; and none shall be missing, says the LORD. Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will raise up a righteous shoot to David; As king he shall reign and govern wisely, he shall do what is just and right in the land. In his days Judah shall be saved, Israel shall dwell in security. This is the name they give him: “The LORD our justice.” Therefore, the days will come, says the LORD, when they shall no longer say, “As the LORD lives, who brought the Israelites out of the land of Egypt”; but rather, “As the LORD lives, who brought the descendants of the house of Israel up from the land of the north”—and from all the lands to which I banished them; they shall again live on their own land.

Daniel 2:31
“In your vision, O king, you saw a statue, very large and exceedingly bright, terrifying in appearance as it stood before you. The head of the statue was pure gold, its chest and arms were silver, its belly and thighs bronze, the legs iron, its feet partly iron and partly tile. While you looked at the statue, a stone which was hewn from a mountain without a hand being put to it, struck its iron and tile feet, breaking them in pieces. The iron, tile, bronze, silver, and gold all crumbled at once, fine as the chaff on the threshing floor in summer, and the wind blew them away without leaving a trace. But the stone that struck the statue became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.


Luke 20:17
'The stone which the builders rejected has become the keystone of the structure'? The man who falls on that stone will be smashed to pieces, It will make dust of anyone on whom it falls."
This was the dream; the interpretation we shall also give in the king’s presence. You, O king, are the king of kings; to you the God of heaven has given dominion and strength, power and glory; men, wild beasts, and birds of the air, wherever they may dwell, he has handed over to you, making you ruler over them all; you are the head of gold. Another kingdom shall take your place,inferior to yours, then a third kingdom, of bronze, which shall rule over the whole earth. There shall be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron; it shall break in pieces and subdue all these others, just as iron breaks in pieces and crushes everything else. The feet and toes you saw, partly of potter’s tile and partly of iron, mean that it shall be a divided kingdom, but yet have some of the hardness of iron. As you saw the iron mixed with clay tile, and the toes partly iron and partly tile, the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly fragile. The iron mixed with clay tile means that they shall seal their alliances by intermarriage, but they shall not stay united, any more than iron mixes with clay. In the lifetime of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that shall never be destroyed or delivered up to another people; rather, it shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and put an end to them, and it shall stand forever. That is the meaning of the stone you saw hewn from the mountain without a hand being put to it, which broke in pieces the tile, iron, bronze, silver, and gold. The great God has revealed to the king what shall be in the future; this is exactly what you dreamed, and its meaning is sure.”

Acts 26:17
I shall deliver you from this people and from the Gentiles to whom I send you, to open their eyes that they may turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may obtain forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who have been consecrated by faith in me.’

Luke 21:24
They will fall by the edge of the sword and be taken as captives to all the Gentiles; and Jerusalem will be trampled underfoot by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled

Matthew 6:9 The Lord’s Prayer.

“This is how you are to pray:
Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as in heaven.

Give us today our daily bread;
and forgive us our debts,
as we forgive our debtors;
and do not subject us to the final test, but deliver us from the evil one.

 
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ST. LOUIS DE MONTFORT, END TIMES
Divine intervention within salvation history

...The work of the apostles of the end times swings essentially around two poles, one negative, the other positive: "destroying sin and establishing the reign of Jesus Christ" (SM 59). The first pole involves a series of aggressive actions against the forces of evil: they” will give battle, overthrowing and crushing", they "will thunder against sin, they will storm against the world, they will strike down the devil and his followers", they "will be the odor of death to the great, the rich and the proud of this world". In the PM, along the same lines, Montfort foresees missionaries who will attack and overthrow the "enemies of God", who will "crush the head of the serpent", "address their ardent prayers to heaven, turning them into the weapons which will overcome or convert their enemies"
What does everyone think St. Louis De Montfort's 'Apostles of end times' will be doing to usher in Christ's Kingdom Come?

I think that his 'Apostles of end times' are Christ's great Combat Angels of the Apocalypse. I think that end times Apostles will be using Christ's 'Keys to the Kingdom', Anathema and the Sacraments of Baptism and Reconciliation to prepare the earth for Christ's Second Coming. Jesus, in creating His Divine Mercy Sunday, and Divine Mercy Chaplet, has opened the doors to His Mercy wide. The angels of Revelation, who are placing God's seal on the foreheads of the Elect, are Christ's Catholic Priests Cleansing the Elect through the Sacraments of Baptism and Reconciliation. Jesus tells us, through St. Faustina, that this door will close as Jesus Comes as Just Judge.

Jesus is Crowned as King and Ruler of the world when the angel finishes reading the small scroll. I think that the small scroll is a list of auto-anathema's read by an Apostolic Successor. Those who have not prepared themselves, by immersing themselves in the deep abyss of Jesus Divine Mercy through His Sacraments, must face the full force of God's wrath, with active auto-anathemas binding them to their sins. Scriptures tell us that Jesus will strike the nations with the sword of His mouth. The, sword of Christ's mouth, is His lips binding sinners to their sins. Jesus gave His Apostles His sworn oath that anyone whom they call upon Him to bind to sin from earth, He will bind to sin in heaven. Apostolic Successors, therefore are fully armed to wield the sword of Christ's mouth, anathema, on the Battlefield of Armageddon. Our Catholic Church Apostolic Successors will be Christ's great Combat Angels of the Apocalypse, who put Satan in chains, through Catholic Church auto-anathemas. Jesus is not King and Ruler of the world, until His subjects, Catholic Clergy, put His Laws into enforcement on earth, by reading the small scroll of auto-anathemas; When they do, Jesus Rules the World as King!

Then the wrath of the Lamb blows through putting a great number of the unrepentant wicked to death. Jesus and the Blessed Mother indicate whole nations will be lost upon Jesus Coming. Old Testament apocalyptic scriptures indicate that only a 'Remnant' survive when Israel is Restored.

With Jesus, a descendant of King David, Ruling the world, Israel is Restored and Zion is born. The post Armageddon Catholic Church will transform into the 'New Jerusalem' of Jesus' Kingdom Come. Jesus will become a bright 'Light to the Nations' through all the miracles He will perform within His Church, the Catholic Church, which will be the 'New Jerusalem' and the nations will see Her glory and stream to her through her gates of Christ's Sacraments of Baptism and Reconciliation.

What do you think St. Louis 'Apostles of end times' will be doing?

Revelation 10:1
Then I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven wrapped in a cloud, with a halo around his head; his face was like the sun and his feet were like pillars of fire. In his hand he held a small scroll that had been opened. He placed his right foot on the sea and his left foot on the land, and then he cried out in a loud voice as a lion roars. When he cried out, the seven thunders raised their voices, too.
When the seven thunders had spoken, I was about to write it down; but I heard a voice from heaven say, “Seal up what the seven thunders have spoken, but do not write it down.” Then the angel I saw standing on the sea and on the land raised his right hand to heaven and swore by the one who lives forever and ever, who created heaven and earth and sea and all that is in them, “There shall be no more delay. At the time when you hear the seventh angel blow his trumpet, the mysterious plan of God shall be fulfilled, as he promised to his servants the prophets.”

Zechariah 5:1
Then I raised my eyes again and saw a scroll flying. “What do you see?” he asked me. I answered, “I see a scroll flying; it is twenty cubits long and ten cubits wide.” Then he said to me: This is the curse which is to go forth over the whole earth; in accordance with it shall every thief be swept away, and in accordance with it shall every perjurer be expelled from here. I will send it forth, says the LORD of hosts, and it shall come into the house of the thief, or into the house of him who perjures himself with my name; it shall lodge within his house, consuming it, timber and stones.

Isaiah 24:3 Devastation of the World: A Remnant Saved.
The earth is utterly laid waste, utterly stripped, for the LORD has decreed this thing.
The earth mourns and fades, the world languishes and fades; both heaven and earth languish. The earth is polluted because of its inhabitants, who have transgressed laws, violated statutes, broken the ancient covenant. Therefore a curse devours the earth, and its inhabitants pay for their guilt; Therefore they who dwell on earth turn pale, and few men are left.

Revelation 19:11 The King of Kings.

The heavens were opened, and as I looked on, a white horse appeared; its rider was called "The Faithful and True." Justice is his standard in passing judgment and in waging war. His eyes blazed like fire, and on his head were many diadems. Inscribed on his person was a name known to no one but himself. He wore a cloak that had been dipped in blood, and his name was the Word of God. The armies of heaven were behind him riding white horses and dressed in fine linen, pure and white. Out of his mouth came a sharp sword for striking down the nations. He will shepherd them with an iron rod; it is he who will tread out in the winepress the blazing wrath of God the Almighty. A name was written on the part of the cloak that covered his thigh: "King of kings and Lord of lords."...

Isaiah 11:4 The Rule of Immanuel.
But a shoot shall sprout from the stump of Jesse, and from his roots a bud shall blossom. The spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him: a spirit of wisdom and of understanding, A spirit of counsel and of strength, a spirit of knowledge and of fear of the LORD, and his delight shall be the fear of the LORD. Not by appearance shall he judge, nor by hearsay shall he decide, But he shall judge the poor with justice, and decide aright for the land’s afflicted. He shall strike the ruthless with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips he shall slay the wicked. Justice shall be the band around his waist, and faithfulness a belt upon his hips.
Then the wolf shall be a guest of the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; The calf and the young lion shall browse together, with a little child to guide them. The cow and the bear shall be neighbors, together their young shall rest; the lion shall eat hay like the ox. The baby shall play by the cobra’s den, and the child lay his hand on the adder’s lair. There shall be no harm or ruin on all my holy mountain; for the earth shall be filled with knowledge of the LORD, as water covers the sea. On that day, The root of Jesse, set up as a signal for the nations, The Gentiles shall seek out, for his dwelling shall be glorious. On that day, The Lord shall again take it in hand to reclaim the remnant of his people that is left from Assyria and Egypt, Pathros, Ethiopia, and Elam, Shinar, Hamath, and the isles of the sea. He shall raise a signal to the nations and gather the outcasts of Israel; The dispersed of Judah he shall assemble from the four corners of the earth.

Revelation 16:16

They then assembled the kings in the place that is named Armageddon in Hebrew. The seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air. A loud voice came out of the temple from the throne, saying, “It is done.”

Revelation 11:15
Then the seventh angel blew his trumpet. There were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdom of the world now belongs to our Lord and to his Anointed, and he will reign forever and ever.”
 
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