Prelude to Isaiah 17:1

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I dont think many people realize damascus is in the land of Israel.
Or what will become the land of Israel.The land promised to Abraham's seed(Christ)lay between the euphrates river and the Nile.
Damascus as well as every city between those two rivers will be taken from the occupants aand given to Abraham's seed.
Isaiah 17:9 In that day their strong cities, which they left because of the Israelites, will be like places abandoned to thickets and undergrowth. And all will be desolation.

All of that land will be desolate.
Those who are not destroyed in the war will flee.
 
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Sure I do.I just told you where.But if you dont understand it ,thats anothet thing.
I don't see the U.S. or Iraq so would you please break it down for me in plain language.
As for Damascus.It will be destroyed during armegeddon.

Please show this in scripture. My understanding is there will be several wars before Armageddon
 
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Prophecy in Isa. 17:1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.

We see the world gearing up against Damascus for the recent gas attack. Could what we are seeing be a prelude to the fulfillment of Isa. 17:1 in your opinion?
Damascus is not a ruin heap. It has been inhabited since 9000 BC. It is full of civilians. If Trump strikes, he will probably strike at military targets.
 
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No, and I'm convinced that Isaiah 17:1 and Amos 1:3-5 are connected. Amos gives a general reason for the judgment, for the threshing of Gilead with implements of iron. If I recall correctly, its referencing a location just east of the Jordan River.
Whether this is going to be one of the routes Jews flee through and they try to kill them is uncertain.
Amos 1:
3 Thus saith Jehovah: For three transgressions of Damascus, yea, for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they have threshed Gilead with threshing instruments of iron: 4 but I will send a fire into the house of Hazael, and it shall devour the palaces of Ben-hadad.

5 And I will break the bar of Damascus, and cut off the inhabitant from the valley of Aven, and him that holdeth the sceptre from the house of Eden; and the people of Syria shall go into captivity unto Kir, saith Jehovah.

I agree, the two prophecies seem to be connected. I am not sure where these places are located or their modern day names.
 
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Damascus is not a ruin heap. It has been inhabited since 9000 BC. It is full of civilians. If Trump strikes, he will probably strike at military targets.
I agree. Damascus stands now, but, for how long?
 
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I agree. Damascus stands now, but, for how long?
It will stand until the time of the great tribulation when the nations gather against Jerusalem to destroy her. It's the time of Jacobs trouble, when the children of the house of Israel (see the books of Hosea and Amos and Isa 10:22) number as the sand of the sea, in which only a remnant, a small portion, shall be saved out of that time. That is what is portrayed here in Isa 17 when only a few grapes will remain on the outermost branches. That is the remnant that survives the GT. One verse that shows part of the purpose for the destruction of Damascus is found in Zechariah:
*[[Zec 9:1]] KJV* The burden of the word of the LORD in the land of Hadrach, and [Damascus shall be the rest thereof]: when the eyes of man, as of all the tribes of Israel, shall be toward the LORD.

This will be the time when Israel begins seeking the Lord her God (eyes shall be toward the Lord ). After the time of the indignation of Jacobs trouble, the land of Hamath in the land of Syria, will be one of the gathering points for the children of Israel on the journey back to restoration:

*[[Isa 11:11]] KJV* And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from HAMATH, and from the islands of the sea.

All of the places listed there are on the outskirts of the land of Israel. They will be gathered to each of these places on her road to redemption. See Ezekiel 20.
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The gassing does not make any sense, unless Assad was emboldened by the prospect that America would be pulling out of Syria.
Who benefits from Assad's alleged repeated gassings of his own people?

Certainly not Assad. Only a fool would enjoy the repetitive repercussions of such actions.

What about western warmongers and their paid presstitute media?

The answer is self-evident.
 
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Gilead is east of the Jordan River in modern Jordan. It is in the northern part of Jordan, south of the Golan Heights. Damascus is on the other side of Mt. Hermon from Israel. It is watered by a river and may have supported fruit orchards before the urbanization of Damascus. Damascus was in the path of armies invading from Assyria and Babylon. Damascus was likely destroyed and rebuilt long ago.

Paul traveled from Jerusalem to Damascus in an attempt to arrest Christians. It was a walled city in Roman times. In the 19th century camel caravans used to assemble in Damascus each year before traveling south to Medinah and Mecca for the Islamic Haj.

Syria used to have more Christians before the civil war. Many Christians were murdered, fled or were forced to convert to Islam.
 
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Gilead is east of the Jordan River in modern Jordan. It is in the northern part of Jordan, south of the Golan Heights. Damascus is on the other side of Mt. Hermon from Israel. It is watered by a river and may have supported fruit orchards before the urbanization of Damascus. Damascus was in the path of armies invading from Assyria and Babylon. Damascus was likely destroyed and rebuilt long ago.

Paul traveled from Jerusalem to Damascus in an attempt to arrest Christians. It was a walled city in Roman times. In the 19th century camel caravans used to assemble in Damascus each year before traveling south to Medinah and Mecca for the Islamic Haj.

Syria used to have more Christians before the civil war. Many Christians were murdered, fled or were forced to convert to Islam.
Thank you. Your post is very informative. I am interested in what your thoughts are regarding the current situation in Syria?
 
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Thank you. Your post is very informative. I am interested in what your thoughts are regarding the current situation in Syria?
I think they should partition the country into different nations or states, if they cannot live at peace with each other. The US can not afford a fight to the finish there. War is very expensive. Current projections for budget deficits in excess of a trillion dollars a year will likely bring inflation. Most of the people in Syria are Muslim and do not want non-Muslims to rule anyway. Assad should not be using chemical weapons. None of them should be using any sort of weapons.
 
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I think they should partition the country into different nations or states, if they cannot live at peace with each other. The US can not afford a fight to the finish there. War is very expensive. Current projections for budget deficits in excess of a trillion dollars a year will likely bring inflation. Most of the people in Syria are Muslim and do not want non-Muslims to rule anyway. Assad should not be using chemical weapons. None of them should be using any sort of weapons.
Well,I don't believe we will see any of this happen.
 
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I think they should partition the country into different nations or states, if they cannot live at peace with each other. The US can not afford a fight to the finish there. War is very expensive. Current projections for budget deficits in excess of a trillion dollars a year will likely bring inflation. Most of the people in Syria are Muslim and do not want non-Muslims to rule anyway. Assad should not be using chemical weapons. None of them should be using any sort of weapons.

Why would Assad use chemical or any other weapons on his own people?
 
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If you look around Syria all the other cities like Allepo are ruinous heaps and have been abandoned. The term in that day is like bracketing all the events metered by a single identifying event and the sequence could be preceding or following the identifying factor so in that day is a general time with a specific point that this is the day when Damascus is wiped out. The other references to Ezekiel 38 are right on and if you look at current events a very specific detail relating to that prophecy has fallen into place as Saudi Arabia known as Sheba and Dedan are now aligned with Israel against Iran. The unification of Iran, Russia, and Turkey grows daily and the buildup of Iran and the rise of Turkey in common pursuits seems to be ready for the hook in the jaw moment with Sheba and Dedan protesting.
 
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If you look around Syria all the other cities like Allepo are ruinous heaps and have been abandoned. The term in that day is like bracketing all the events metered by a single identifying event and the sequence could be preceding or following the identifying factor so in that day is a general time with a specific point that this is the day when Damascus is wiped out. The other references to Ezekiel 38 are right on and if you look at current events a very specific detail relating to that prophecy has fallen into place as Saudi Arabia known as Sheba and Dedan are now aligned with Israel against Iran. The unification of Iran, Russia, and Turkey grows daily and the buildup of Iran and the rise of Turkey in common pursuits seems to be ready for the hook in the jaw moment with Sheba and Dedan protesting.
Amen! This is what I see also.
 
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If you look around Syria all the other cities like Allepo are ruinous heaps and have been abandoned. The term in that day is like bracketing all the events metered by a single identifying event and the sequence could be preceding or following the identifying factor so in that day is a general time with a specific point that this is the day when Damascus is wiped out. The other references to Ezekiel 38 are right on and if you look at current events a very specific detail relating to that prophecy has fallen into place as Saudi Arabia known as Sheba and Dedan are now aligned with Israel against Iran. The unification of Iran, Russia, and Turkey grows daily and the buildup of Iran and the rise of Turkey in common pursuits seems to be ready for the hook in the jaw moment with Sheba and Dedan protesting.

It has nothing,g to do wit ezekiel 38.
Damascus isn't with Gogwhen he invades Isreal nor is Egypt.
Non ofthe nations within the borders of the promised land are accompany Gog when he invades.
Lebanon,Palestine,Egypt,Iraq,Syria,Jordan.
None of these are mentioned in ezekiel 38-39.
Dont you understand why?
The answer is very simple.
 
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Trump: US, France and UK launch strikes on Syria - CNNPolitics

CNN said:
"I ordered the United States armed forces to launch precision strikes on targets associated with the chemical weapon capabilities of Syrian dictator of Bashar al-Assad," Trump said from the White House Diplomatic Room.

Trump said the strikes were in coordination with France and the United Kingdom, adding that the purpose of the campaign is to "establish a strong deterrent against the production, spread and use of chemical weapons."

"The combined American, British and French response to these atrocities will integrate all instruments of our national power: military, economic and diplomatic," Trump said.
Trump indicated the strikes would continue until the Syrian regime's use of chemical weapons ends.
 
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Prophecy in Isa. 17:1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.

We see the world gearing up against Damascus for the recent gas attack. Could what we are seeing be a prelude to the fulfillment of Isa. 17:1 in your opinion?
I don't know. I think the destruction of Damascus could be during Gog/Magog just preceding the last week of Daniel 9:27. If we were to see the EU re-structure into the ten leader/little horn form of government soon - it would be more evidence.

I don't think that the destruction of Damascus is a later event during the 7 years or at Armageddon because Islam will not be around following Gog/Magog.... and it appears as though Islam is deeply inter-twined in the Syria conflict.
 
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No.

Isaiah 17:12-14, showing that it describes how Assyria attempted to defeat Judah and Jerusalem in 701 BC, but miserably failed when God miraculously intervened. Isaiah 17:12-14 is addressed to the enemies of Judah. Therefore, Isaiah 17 has everything to do with the 8th century BC, and nothing to do with the 21st century.
Isaiah 17 reads like end times, Gog/Magog to me
 
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