I want to be saved, but I feel like my sins are too great.

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Are your parents christian, what type? Did they use God as a big stick when growing up?

My mom is a Methodist. My dad is an agnostic. My mom believes that God is love. She is a universal salvationist. She doesn't believe in Hell or the Devil. My parents are very nice people.
 
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Is there any advice people can give about letting go of the past? I had a really terrible year a long time ago, but I still feel really bad about it. I feel unforgivable. I feel like I'm a nice person, but I really screwed up. If it wasn't for this one year I think I would be okay.

After that year is when I started hearing voices in my head. That is when I was diagnosed with Schizophrenia. One of the voices I hear in my head constantly reminds me of my sins and says I'm going to hell. He says "you're just bad enough." He implies that I'm not as bad as some people, but I'm bad enough for hell.

I can never shake this voice. I've tried several medications and I found one that helps but I still hear this voice all day long. It's just not as bad and I can sleep. If I don't take the medication I can't sleep at all. The voice is unrelenting and insists that I'm going to hell. So all day long I feel like I'm going to hell. I try to do good deeds. I give money to the poor every time I have the chance. I also volunteer at a Christian homeless shelter. The voice in my head just laughs at me. He says I'm "bribing God" whenever I give to the poor.

The voice in my head is constantly making deals and bets. It says "if you do this you'll get some kind of disease." I don't want to go into the details but he is constantly attacking me with illnesses and other things that I'm afraid of.

I wish I could toss this demon out, but he just laughs at my attempts. He says "God is paying me for doing what I do to you." He says "God is giving me my wings back for what I do to you."

So, I really don't know what to do. I want to be on God's good side. I want to be a good person. I want to follow Jesus and go to heaven. It just feels kind of impossible.

Jesus said "That the one who comes to me I will not cast out". This verse means that when we come to Jesus seeking help and salvation He will be there for us. You need not fear for your salvation, when you come to Jesus he is there for you.

The only reason why the voice/devil is continually mouthing off is because it knows that you currently are unsure of your own salvation. As soon as you realise you are saved it will have to go, because it will know it can't deceive you in that way any longer.

Feel free to private message me if you additional explanation or help.
 
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@SnowTiger how you doing today?

I'm feeling a little better. I always feel bad because I make bets in my head about things. Like if my basketball or baseball team loses something bad will happen to me. Or if I get a certain grade in school terrible things will happen. I take these things really seriously.

Today I thought that God was telling me not to give up on the things that I love, no matter what. I made a bet in my head that I would have to stop listening to Christian music, but I felt like God was saying it's okay to listen to Christian music even if you lose a bet.

I've been struggling with school too. I really like school and I want to keep going. Somehow I got this bet in my head that something terrible would happen to me if I got a C in college. I feel like Jesus will do something terrible to me if I get a C. It's been making me feel like I have to quit college. I've dealt with this before. Everyone I know wants me to keep going with school. So today I was feeling like maybe I shouldn't give up on school, even if I'm worried the consequences will be terrible. Maybe God doesn't want us to give up on what we love, no matter what.

I got some homework done today too, so I feel like I'm making progress. I still feel very afraid though. I feel like something terrible will happen to me if I don't quit school.

Thank you for asking about me!
 
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I wonder, someone I met with (and I haven’t been diagnosed with anything mentally, I can’t remember what type of counselor she is exactly) said my fears spiritually could come from other fears. Fears about being lost spiritually could come from my intense fears of getting physically lost. I cry easily if I’m on a part of the highway I can’t find my way from. I cried at the light two turns from my school because I was so worried about having to go on one of the longest drives I have done by myself. I made it so close and at that point I could 100% get to school but cried because I was lost. It probably comes from a time as a young kid I got lost but the point is: since I am so afraid of getting physically lost, the obsessive part of my mind can run off with it. Does that make sense? Like the obsession with being lost will tell me I’m always lost, that I don’t know where I’m going even if practically I do and it might tell me I am spiritually lost. It can only do this because I can’t properly deal with my fear. So maybe another way to make sure I’m clear is that maybe you have an underlying, simpler fear which your brain is telling you is these bets about your grades, or these voices who say they’re getting rewarded to hurt you. Maybe we’re here discussing the symptoms - trying to help you - but just missing the problem. I am not a psychiatrist, my words are not stone, I just wonder if there is a similar problem causing you to have irriational fears.
 
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Okay. I think I need to be more faithful. I grew up as a Christian, but I've never been very good about it.

Mankind’s Need of Salvation
What do I need to be saved from?
The wrath of God. (Romans 2:5-6)

Why do I need to be saved?
Your sin has cut you off from God. (Isaiah 59:2) To sin, means to “miss the mark.” The Bible declares, “all have sinned; all fall short of God’s standard.” (Romans 3:23)

What is God’s standard?
To perfectly keep His Law, the Ten Commandments, for your entire life. Keep all of the Law and God will let you enter Heaven. Have you ever:

  • used God’s name as a curse word? _____Yes _____No
  • stolen anything? _____ Yes _____No
  • told a lie? _____Yes _____No
This is just three of the ten. Answer yes to any? Uh-huh! You are guilty of breaking God’s Law. You have sinned. The “wages (penalty) of sin is (physical & spiritual) death.” (Romans 6:23)

If you die, without being saved, you will be eternally separated from God and your loved ones. After death, life does go on, either in Heaven (with God) or in Hell (away from God), depending on your acceptance or rejection of God’s plan of salvation.


God’s Plan of Salvation
The Futility of Human Effort
The Bible teaches that no amount of human goodness, human works, human morality or religious activity can get anyone into Heaven. Being a good person, belonging to a religious family, being baptized, going to church, none of these can save anyone. Everyone still falls short of God’s perfect standard. (Isaiah 64:6, Romans 4:1-5, Ephesians 2:8-9, Titus 3:5-7)

The Only Way
Jesus said to him, “I am the Way and the Truth and the Life; no one comes to the Father except by (through) me.” (John 14:6)


What must I do to be saved?
1) Realize that you’re are a sinner. (Romans 3:23, 5:12; 1 John 1:10)
2) Change your mind about Jesus (repent).
  • Jesus said: “…unless you repent (have a change of mind that results in a change of action), you will all perish and be lost eternally. (Luke 13:5)
  • …now God charges all people everywhere to repent. (Acts 17:30)
3) Believe that Jesus Christ died for you, was buried and rose from the dead.
  • We are made right in God’s sight when we trust in Jesus Christ to take away our sins. And we all can be saved in the same way, no matter who we are or what we have done. For God sent Jesus to take the punishment for our sins and to satisfy God’s anger (wrath) against us. We are made right with God when we believe that Jesus shed His blood, sacrificing His Life for us. (Romans 3:22, 25)
  • For if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. (Romans 10:9)
4) Go to God in prayer, confessing Jesus as Lord and your need for forgiveness of your sins. Give your life to Jesus, making Him the Lord of your life.
  • For it is believing in your heart that you are made right with God, and it is by confessing with your mouth that you are saved. (Romans 10:10)
  • For anyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.(Romans 10:13)

What should I pray?

Following is an example:

Dear God,
I know I am a sinner. I have broken your Law and deserve to pay the penalty for my sins, which is eternal separation from you. God, I need your forgiveness. I believe that your Son, Jesus the Christ, is Lord of all, that He shed His precious blood as payment for my sins and that, on the third day, You raised Him from the dead. I am willing to turn from sin. Jesus, please come into my heart, to be the Lord and Savior of my life. Live your life through me. In Jesus Christ name, Amen.

If you sincerely prayed this prayer, you are now saved and the newest member of God’s family. But to all who believed Him and accepted Him, He gave the right to become children of God. They are reborn! (John 1:12-13)

Your acceptance or rejection of Jesus is the most important decision you will make in this life. It is a matter of eternal life and eternal death.

I accepted God’s plan of salvation, what next?
A good place to start~~~> Bible Truth - New Convert's Class
 
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I want to accept Jesus, but I have this voice in my head all the time. He laughs and insults me all day long. I really don't think Jesus wants any part with me. If he did he would make this voice in my head go away. The voice says "into your coffin!" He says I'm going to be in a coffin for all eternity. He says "if God loved you, he would help you." With regard to college, he says "just quit."

I really wish Jesus would come into my heart, but he never will. I know this because the voice in my head will never leave. The voice says "I will torture you for all eternity." He says, "even after you go to hell I will torture you."

I just don't think there is any way out. I've tried accepting Jesus, but his spirit just won't come into me. I feel like if it did, it would drive this evil voice away. Sorry, I just don't know what to do. I feel like I've tried everything. I've tried medication and I've tried prayer too. I even had ministers do some exorcisms as well.

I just don't think Jesus wants any part with me. It's so hard to believe when I have this voice in my head. I mean I believe in God and Jesus is the son of God. But I just feel like they hate me because of this voice. Even when I was a little kid I had this same voice in my head telling me I'm going to hell.
 
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I want to accept Jesus, but I have this voice in my head all the time. He laughs and insults me all day long. I really don't think Jesus wants any part with me. If he did he would make this voice in my head go away. The voice says "into your coffin!" He says I'm going to be in a coffin for all eternity. He says "if God loved you, he would help you." With regard to college, he says "just quit."

I really wish Jesus would come into my heart, but he never will. I know this because the voice in my head will never leave. The voice says "I will torture you for all eternity." He says, "even after you go to hell I will torture you."

I just don't think there is any way out. I've tried accepting Jesus, but his spirit just won't come into me. I feel like if it did, it would drive this evil voice away. Sorry, I just don't know what to do. I feel like I've tried everything. I've tried medication and I've tried prayer too. I even had ministers do some exorcisms as well.

I just don't think Jesus wants any part with me. It's so hard to believe when I have this voice in my head. I mean I believe in God and Jesus is the son of God. But I just feel like they hate me because of this voice. Even when I was a little kid I had this same voice in my head telling me I'm going to hell.
Snow, I will interject here again. Look at the paper I told you to print out. Through our messages I saw and witnessed you admit that you were a sinner and needed a Saviour and we read through Romans 9-13 and you confessed Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour. Now go read verse 13 again.
I know you have fears but you have done what Jesus ask you too little Brother and this is simply your disorder acting up. Jesus knows and it is ok :]
 
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Is there any advice people can give about letting go of the past? I had a really terrible year a long time ago, but I still feel really bad about it. I feel unforgivable. I feel like I'm a nice person, but I really screwed up. If it wasn't for this one year I think I would be okay.

After that year is when I started hearing voices in my head. That is when I was diagnosed with Schizophrenia. One of the voices I hear in my head constantly reminds me of my sins and says I'm going to hell. He says "you're just bad enough." He implies that I'm not as bad as some people, but I'm bad enough for hell.

I can never shake this voice. I've tried several medications and I found one that helps but I still hear this voice all day long. It's just not as bad and I can sleep. If I don't take the medication I can't sleep at all. The voice is unrelenting and insists that I'm going to hell. So all day long I feel like I'm going to hell. I try to do good deeds. I give money to the poor every time I have the chance. I also volunteer at a Christian homeless shelter. The voice in my head just laughs at me. He says I'm "bribing God" whenever I give to the poor.

The voice in my head is constantly making deals and bets. It says "if you do this you'll get some kind of disease." I don't want to go into the details but he is constantly attacking me with illnesses and other things that I'm afraid of.

I wish I could toss this demon out, but he just laughs at my attempts. He says "God is paying me for doing what I do to you." He says "God is giving me my wings back for what I do to you."

So, I really don't know what to do. I want to be on God's good side. I want to be a good person. I want to follow Jesus and go to heaven. It just feels kind of impossible.
After that year is when I started hearing voices in my head. That is when I was diagnosed with Schizophrenia
It's not about sin.
1 John chapter 1 verse 8
If anyone claims to be without sin they deceive themselves and the truth is not in them.
James chapter 2 verse 10
If anyone keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

1 Peter chapter 4 verse 8
Love covers a great many sins.

It's not talking about sex, I only say that because some people think that way.
 
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Snow, I will interject here again. Look at the paper I told you to print out. Through our messages I saw and witnessed you admit that you were a sinner and needed a Saviour and we read through Romans 9-13 and you confessed Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour. Now go read verse 13 again.
I know you have fears but you have done what Jesus ask you too little Brother and this is simply your disorder acting up. Jesus knows and it is ok :]

Okay, I printed it out and put it in my pocket. Sorry, I'm very afraid of this voice in my head. It keeps saying "into your coffin." I'm afraid I'll be in a coffin forever.
 
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SnowTiger...I am sure some has posted John 3:16-17.. Rom 10:9-10. So.. read those again. Now.. can JESUS or GOD lie? John said as he looked at Jesus coming to him.. behold the lamb of God that takes away the sins of the world. Did you get that? Takes away. When they use to sacrifice it only covered the sin. Well this LAMB was perfect.. it never covered any sin.. that sin IS GONE!

So.. God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit will never laugh at you.. never say your NOT saved. So.. WHO would be saying that? SATAN.. now JESUS said.. there is NO TRUTH IN him. So.. satan can not tell the truth. So if something is saying your not saved..or laughing at you.. WOW.. how AWESOME! If Satan is saying your NOT.. and can only LIE... HELLO? REJOICE!

So.. take JESUS at His word. HE said.. who so ever believes. Do you? Ok.. then DONT GO BY HOW YOU FEEL nor what your MIND says..or what you hear. You go by what HE SAID. You believe on Him you are 100% washed in the blood. And He does NOT judge you nor condemn you. Now when you SIN and repent.. trying not to sin.. HE says.. THATS WHY I DIED! YOUR FREE! This is NOT based on how we FEEL! For if it was then ask ANYONE HAHA.. I dont feel saved.. but I dont go by feelings.. its FAITH.. that HE said it.. so believe.. you have been set free.. your PAST AND ALL YOUR SINS are gone.. WOW HUH! AWESOME!

And HE thought of you before the world was.. on that cross.. He thought of all.. for only HE could... He loves you SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much.. before you ever believed.. HE DIED for you. That LOVE has NEVER EVER EVER EVER changed.. Hes your friend.. your brother.. your savior your GOD! Relax and receive His peace that only HE can give.. thats NOT of this world.. just believe.
 
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None of us, not a single person. NONE are saved because we are "good people" we are saved by the Grace and Mercy of God. There is absolutely ZERO difference between you and any of the apostles.

They were all guilty of sins, everything ranging from sexual immorality to murder. Yet, they were saved by grace and the Spirit dwelt in them.

15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature.c]">[c] For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.

21 So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22 For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; 23 but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. 24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? 25 Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!

So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful natured]">[d] a slave to the law of sin.

Do not give up

The parable of the Tax collector:

9 To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’

13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’

14 “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”


While the pharisee was proud and stood on his own perceived righteousness and thought himself better than all others. The other man thought himself not worthy to even look in the direction of God. One man stood proud as if he thought himself an equal to God and could boast to God about his works. The other, humble in his sins, asking with a full heart for forgiveness and repentance.

God does not oppose the sinner, God opposes the proud.

If you have time and wish to watch:




God's Perfect Plan For Those Who Have Failed | cfcindia, Bangalore

You are chasing a God that is so merciful that EVEN in our unbelief and weakness He still wants to help us even in that unbelief if we simply ask.

Mark 9:23-25

As long as you do not give up seeking His face, I have no doubt you will find Him and the salvation you seek through Him.
 
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Thank you all for the help. I've been feeling better tonight. I'm going to try to ignore the voice in my head. I have a hard time doubting it, but I know it lies a lot. It just wants me to sin and constantly tries to get me to sin. The voice tells me to do terrible things, but I don't want to do them.
 
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Heb 6:1 Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God,
Heb 6:2 and of instruction about washings, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment.
Heb 6:3 And this we will do if God permits.
Heb 6:4 For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit,
Heb 6:5 and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come,
Heb 6:6 and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt.

Heb 6:7 For land that has drunk the rain that often falls on it, and produces a crop useful to those for whose sake it is cultivated, receives a blessing from God.
Heb 6:8 But if it bears thorns and thistles, it is worthless and near to being cursed, and its end is to be burned.
Heb 6:9 Though we speak in this way, yet in your case, beloved, we feel sure of better things—things that belong to salvation.
Heb 6:10 For God is not unjust so as to overlook your work and the love that you have shown for his name in serving the saints, as you still do.
Heb 6:11 And we desire each one of you to show the same earnestness to have the full assurance of hope until the end,
Heb 6:12 so that you may not be sluggish, but imitators of those who through faith and patience inherit the promises. ESV

The Hebrew Christians were Jews who acknowledged Jesus was the Messiah. And they had a great outpouring from Pentecost onwards. They were under great pressure from the majority of Jews to reject Jesus. The Pharisees... had become another and new Judaism which had the precedent of Jesus Christ coming as Messiah, but officially they rejected Him and it was part of their faith that people who were like Jesus and Jesus Himself deserved the death penalty. So this is what returning to the Pharisees meant. Killing Jesus again in their hearts.
 
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My mom is a Methodist. My dad is an agnostic. My mom believes that God is love. She is a universal salvationist. She doesn't believe in Hell or the Devil. My parents are very nice people.


if I may further ask- 1. If your mother does not believe in the devil, what does she think of the demonic voices in your head.
2. where does your belief of the devil and hell stem from, what church teaching are you affiliated with?
 
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if I may further ask- 1. If your mother does not believe in the devil, what does she think of the demonic voices in your head.
2. where does your belief of the devil and hell stem from, what church teaching are you affiliated with?

My mom thinks that I have Schizophrenia and the voice is a hallucination.

My belief in the devil and hell comes from my voices. The evil voice in my head has been saying I'm going to hell since I was a kid (maybe 5 years old). I was raised as a Methodist. These days I haven't been going to church due to being too drowsy in the mornings from medication. Our Methodist church was also taken over by a Korean church, so I can't go to my home town church anymore either.
 
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My mom is a Methodist. My dad is an agnostic. My mom believes that God is love. She is a universal salvationist. She doesn't believe in Hell or the Devil. My parents are very nice people.

Wow, this is interesting,
First of all I am just a man, and so have all the frailties of a man, so therefore I am second guessing, But the Lord is the source of all truth and wisdom! What made me ask this question is a few scriptures came to mind, I have underlined the focus of the scripture-
Mark 9:
Jesus Heals a Boy with an Evil Spirit
(Matthew 17:14-21; Luke 9:37-42; Luke 17:5-10)
14And when he came to his disciples, he saw a great multitude about them, and the scribes questioning with them. 15And straightway all the people, when they beheld him, were greatly amazed, and running to him saluted him. 16And he asked the scribes, What question ye with them? 17And one of the multitude answered and said, Master, I have brought unto thee my son, which hath a dumb spirit; 18And wheresoever he taketh him, he teareth him: and he foameth, and gnasheth with his teeth, and pineth away: and I spake to thy disciples that they should cast him out; and they could not. 19He answereth him, and saith, O faithless generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him unto me. 20And they brought him unto him: and when he saw him, straightway the spirit tare him; and he fell on the ground, and wallowed foaming. 21And he asked his father, How long is it ago since this came unto him? And he said, Of a child. 22And ofttimes it hath cast him into the fire, and into the waters, to destroy him: but if thou canst do any thing, have compassion on us, and help us.23Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth. 24And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief. 25When Jesus saw that the people came running together, he rebuked the foul spirit, saying unto him, Thou dumb and deaf spirit, I charge thee, come out of him, and enter no more into him. 26And the spirit cried, and rent him sore, and came out of him: and he was as one dead; insomuch that many said, He is dead. 27But Jesus took him by the hand, and lifted him up; and he arose. 28And when he was come into the house, his disciples asked him privately, Why could not we cast him out? 29And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting.-
Here we see it is important to seek out by doing detective work, to find out what we are dealing with, coupled with prayer!
The other scripture is this
John 9:
Jesus Heals the Man Born Blind
1And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth. 2And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? 3Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him. 4I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. 5As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world. 6When he had thus spoken, he spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and he anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay, 7And said unto him, Go, wash in the pool of Siloam, (which is by interpretation, Sent.) He went his way therefore, and washed, and came seeing. 8The neighbours therefore, and they which before had seen him that he was blind, said, Is not this he that sat and begged? 9Some said, This is he: others said, He is like him: but he said, I am he. 10Therefore said they unto him, How were thine eyes opened? 11He answered and said, A man that is called Jesus made clay, and anointed mine eyes, and said unto me, Go to the pool of Siloam, and wash: and I went and washed, and I received sight. 12Then said they unto him, Where is he? He said, I know not.
I believe that perhaps your illness is not just to do with you but also that Gods glory can be shown to your unbelieving father, and also to teach your mother that all the word of God is true, which states many places their is a devil and not all are saved- lest we accuse God of being a liar according to his word!!
Mat 4:4 Man does not live on bread alone but on EVERY word that comes from Gods mouth! (that's the whole bible, not just the bits we choose).
Now if you agree, I believe you should print or copy this out and show it to your parents, that they bear witness and Gods glory my be made manifest. If your healing does not come, then nothing has been lost, but I believe we should follow this, If you can see what I am getting a picture of what God plans on doing and why he has been doing it,here.

I ASK ALL CHRISTIANS THAT AGREE TO PRAY FOR THIS MANS HEALING THAT GOD"S GLORY CAN BE REVEALED!
 
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