Could God be the most emotional being in the universe????

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This may sound strange.....
but as a higher and higher percentage of us begin to realize how great the valuation on human, (and animal) lives...... in the sight of the Ancient of Days the Father is...... .then the logical foundation will be in place to look at economics in a whole different way than a system where currency is linked to the value of productivity, or oil, or gold or other commodities.


President Trump and the value of the USA dollar.
 
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This may sound strange.....
but as a higher and higher percentage of us begin to realize how great the valuation on human, (and animal) lives...... in the sight of the Ancient of Days the Father is...... .then the logical foundation will be in place to look at economics in a whole different way than a system where currency is linked to the value of productivity, or oil, or gold or other commodities.


President Trump and the value of the USA dollar.

The truth of (the knowledge of) a son is relational to all things.
 
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The truth of (the knowledge of) a son is relational to all things.

So true.......
and the Awakening does seem to be beginning.....
it seems to even be affecting Hollywood....
 
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So true.......
and the Awakening does seem to be beginning.....
it seems to even be affecting Hollywood....
Much like light being found by God in darkness, it permeates everything as something hidden in plain sight.
 
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The Son of God is clearly a very emotional person. Since he is the image of God, the Father must be an essentially emotional being, too. Also, to deny emotionality to the Creator would mean to reduce him to a level lower than humanity, it would virtually make him a being with no personality.

Yes... even his overturning of the tables of the money changers........
indicated an emotional involvement in the Levitical rituals given through Moses.....
that we non- Jews have a hard time even beginning to imagine!


Jhn 2:15

When He had made a whip of cords, He drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and the oxen, and poured out the changers' money and overturned the tables.

And He said to those who sold doves, “Take these things away! Do not make My Father’s house a house of merchandise!”

Then His disciples remembered that it was written, “Zeal for Your house has eaten[fn] Me up.”[fn]
 
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Much like light being found by God in darkness, it permeates everything as something hidden in plain sight.

Your comment makes me think of Evangelist Todd White... who wasted 22 years of his life as a drug addict.......
but he has became such an astonishingly powerful witness for Jesus... that his videos on YouTube have
been instrumental in changing the life of our little girl.... who is now 15 and on fire for Messiah Yeshua - Jesus.


 
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I think the nuance that might be out of place here is that God exists in time.

As such God does not begin emotional, but becomes emotional.

Why does God become emotional? A mystery!

Good point......... I am thinking more along the line of more and more emotional.......
 
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You are thinking in 'humanistic' terms. Most of humanity are nothing but parasitic organisms down to the poorest individual! There is nothing good to be said of our species as a whole. We are probably on the same league as deadly viruses and bacterias.

Bacteria is what digests food so we have energy to help others.
Victor Frankl wrote a book on this topic based on his observations
in a concentration camp. He found that people were driven to
give away what food they had, even if they died becasue of it.

His ecperience boiled man down to his most base functioning
and he found that people sought out meaning in their lives
by helping others, even to their own end.

Man's Search for Meaning: Viktor E. Frankl

I apologise for parasiting onto your post with my response.
 
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Bacteria is what digests food so we have energy to help others.
Victor Frankl wrote a book on this topic based on his observations
in a concentration camp. He found that people were driven to
give away what food they had, even if they died becasue of it.

His ecperience boiled man down to his most base functioning
and he found that people sought out meaning in their lives
by helping others, even to their own end.

Man's Search for Meaning: Viktor E. Frankl

I apologise for parasiting onto your post with my response.

A truly informative post.... thank you immensely for this!
 
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This would seem to correspond with the Creator actually having thought up and choreographed an infinite number of Big Events over infinite time in the past as some physicists seem to believe has been the case!

Investing infinite time in the creation....would certainly tend to give the Creator a greater emotional attachment to all of us than we can begin to imagine...considering how young we are.




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Interesting question. Theres large parts of the bible which demonstrate an unending force of love.
On the other hand there's parts of the bible showing a callous disregard to a level a point of being Alexithymia ie showing no empathy - The destruction of the entire human race including all innocents (ie unborn infants and neonates) during the great flood.

Ive heard various explanations around events where God commissions genocide, but despite explanations I could never reconcile it. So I'm not at all sure how to regard God as he is a entity of love and horrendous dispassionate crime.
 
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Interesting question. Theres large parts of the bible which demonstrate an unending force of love.
On the other hand there's parts of the bible showing a callous disregard to a level a point of being Alexithymia ie showing no empathy - The destruction of the entire human race including all innocents (ie unborn infants and neonates) during the great flood.

Ive heard various explanations around events where God commissions genocide, but despite explanations I could never reconcile it. So I'm not at all sure how to regard God as he is a entity of love and horrendous dispassionate crime.

G-d may be a firm believer in our freedom to make choices...... and reap blessings or curses depending on those choices?
 
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I would say "no". Most emotions come from survival instincts wired into our physical bodies. God is spirit and not subject to natural desire.

That seems logical..........
but I just made a couple of more quotations from that same book over in another discussion that you may find interesting...............

What about the emotion of THANKFULNESS?

Could a homeless person who is continually in an attitude of Thankfulness / worship accomplish far more for Messiah Yeshua - Jesus than somebody else who seems to have a successful ministry????????

It is an interesting question that I quote some about over here in posts #25 and 26:


Why is CF not working for me at the moment in the way that I hoped?
 
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Interesting question. Theres large parts of the bible which demonstrate an unending force of love.
On the other hand there's parts of the bible showing a callous disregard to a level a point of being Alexithymia ie showing no empathy - The destruction of the entire human race including all innocents (ie unborn infants and neonates) during the great flood.

Ive heard various explanations around events where God commissions genocide, but despite explanations I could never reconcile it. So I'm not at all sure how to regard God as he is a entity of love and horrendous dispassionate crime.


What former Atheist Howard Storm was shown about what was happening behind the scenes during the Holocaust on the Jewish people may help to make some sense out of this.


Howard Storm Ph. D:
"I asked how God could let the Holocaust of World War II happen. We were transported to a railway station as a long train of freight cars was being unloaded of its human cargo. The guards were screaming and beating the people into submission. The people were Jewish men, women, and children. Exhausted from hunger and thirst, they were totally disoriented from the ordeal of being rounded up and sent on a long journey to an unknown destination. They believed that they were going to work camps, and that their submission to the brutality of the guards was the only way to survive.

We went to the area where the selection process was taking place and heard the guards talking about "the Angel Maker." We went to the place the guards were referring to as "the Angel Maker," which was a series of ovens. I saw piles of naked corpses being loaded into the ovens, and I began to cry. Jesus said to me, "These are the people God loves." Then he said, "Look up." Rising out of the smoke of the chimneys, I saw hundreds of people being met by thousands of angels taking them up into the sky. There was great joy in the faces of the people, and there appeared to be no trace of a memory of the horrendous suffering they had just endured. How ironic that the guards sarcastically called the ovens "the Angel Maker."

I asked how God could allow this to happen. They told me that this was not God's will. This was an abomination to God. God wants this never to happen again. This was the sacrifice of an innocent people to whom God had given the law to be an example, a light, to the rest of the world. This Holocaust was breaking God's heart. The anguish that Jesus was suffering at the slaughter of his people was too much for me to bear and I begged that we leave this place. I will never forget this: his anguish at this horror and what it represents. This was one of the low points in human history."

I asked, Why does God let things like this happen? They told me that God was very unhappy with the course of human history and was going to intervene to change the world. God had watched us sink to depths of depravity and cruelty at the very time that he was giving us the instruments to make the world a godlier world. God had intervened in the world many times before, but this time God was going to change the course of human events." (Howard Storm, My Descent Into Death, page 42,43)
 
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Yes, those words are used anthropomorphically (in the language of humans), for how else would we understand what God is communicating to us in those situations?

Remember, God is not matter.
He has nothing physical by which to experience emotion.
Emotions require the organic matter of a brain, and the chemicals to stimulate it to a physical experience.

That God did not have human emotions seems to have been understood by the apostles.

When Paul healed a man in Lystra, the people thought the gods had come down to them in human form (Ac 14:11).
But note how Paul described himself to show he was not a god:
"We too are only men of like passions with you (Ac 14:15)."
It seems it was common knowledge back then, even to the pagans, that gods did not have human emotions.

Scripture contains much anthropomorphic language for the sake of human understanding, but not for the sake of attributing physical emotion to a spirit God.

In the faith,
Clare

But what if the place in which emotions are taking place...... is not actually physical at all????

What if our emotions are happening in higher invisible dimensions of space - time that our soul and mind are connected to??

www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/

Here is a video by a near death experiencer that I think does a great job of explaining this:






Dr. Eben Alexander, page 72:
“It is my belief that we are now facing a crucial time in our existence. We need to recover more of that larger knowledge while living here on earth, while our brains (including its left side analytical parts) are fully functioning. Science --- the science to which I’ve devoted so much of my life ---- doesn’t contradict what I learned up there. But far, far too many people believe it does, because certain members of the scientific community, who are pledged to the materialist worldview, have insisted again and again that science and spirituality cannot coexist.

They are mistaken. Making this ancient but ultimately basic fact more widely known is why I have written this book, and it renders all the other aspects of my story ---- the mystery of how I contracted my illness, of how I managed to be conscious in another dimension for the week of my coma, and how I somehow recovered so completely ---- entirely secondary.


The unconditional love and acceptance that I experienced on my journey is the single most important discovery I have ever made, or will ever make, and as hard as I know it’s going to be to unpack the lessons I learned there, I also know in my heart that sharing this very basic message ----- one so simple that most children readily accept it ---- is the most important task I have.” (Dr. Eben Alexander, page 72, Proof of Heaven.)
 
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I belive that we are about to go into a time period when this idea of G-d being astonishingly EMOTIONALLY ATTACHED to each human....... will be critical in setting in motion a series of events in the USA, Canadian and world economy that will result in the fulfillment of the prediction by David Wilkerson from 1973 that the price of land in rural America within a hundred miles of all major cities would skyrocket...... (There were seven hundred and ten trillion USA dollars in the world's Derivatives Markets as of 2014 according to CIA economist Jim Rickards. At that time he was worried about a one hundred trillion dollar devaluation in the Derivatives markets that would spread to other markets. A real estate boom in Trump territory is one possible way to delay or even prevent that from happening)!
"There will be a sudden rush to buy farms, ranches, and homes in the country.

Thousands will attempt to flee from cities, hoping that a return to the land and

nature will provide security. There will be a growing urge to "get away from it

all"---and much money will be invested in land and acreage in rural areas by

people who have secret dreams of raising their own food and cattle and of

becoming self-supporting. The price of open rural land will continue to soar.

Acreage within 100 miles of most major cities will skyrocket out of reach to

all but syndicates." (David Wilkerson, The Vision, page 18,19).
 
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Isa 63:9 In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old.


Exo 3:7 And the LORD said, I have surely seen the affliction of my people which are in Egypt, and have heard their cry by reason of their taskmasters; for I know their sorrows;


Neh 9:9And didst see the affliction of our fathers in Egypt, and heardest their cry by the Red sea;"


Psa 106:44 Nevertheless he regarded their affliction, when he heard their cry:
 
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