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Since the Bible doesn't say thou shall not be naked or look at naked people. Its not a sin... its that simple to me. Every commentary I read makes nudity a sin has to manipulate scripture to add sins to the list that aren't there.

If one wants to make anything a sin the best way is to quote Paul that what ever is not of faith is sin. Of course if one has faith that being nude isn't sinful then its not. But that feels way too wishy washy to write that. After all, all a person has to do is say I'm naked in faith and they can't condemn a person.
 
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Since the Bible doesn't say thou shall not be naked or look at naked people. Its not a sin... its that simple to me. Every commentary I read makes nudity a sin has to manipulate scripture to add sins to the list that aren't there.

If one wants to make anything a sin the best way is to quote Paul that what ever is not of faith is sin. Of course if one has faith that being nude isn't sinful then its not. But that feels way too wishy washy to write that. After all, all a person has to do is say I'm naked in faith and they can't condemn a person.
https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-bible-say-about-nudity-and-nudism
 
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Ya, I read that yesterday. Mostly the author took verses that were meant to be allegorical and made them literal! Bad hermeneutics.
Nudity now has implications of sinfulness attached to it. With few exceptions, the Bible presents nakedness as shameful and degrading (Genesis 9:21; Exodus 20:26; 32:25; 2 Chronicles 28:19; Isaiah 47:3; Ezekiel 16:35-36; Luke 8:27; Revelation 3:17; 16:15; 17:16). The only passages in which nudity is free of shame are those that describe Eden’s idyllic setting or that deal with marital relations (Proverbs 5:18-19; Song of Solomon 4).
 
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I was stunned to see this headline. More stunned to see the first couple posts and then some... I guess I've never considered a Christian to choose what sinful behaviors he could keep... And to backpack this kind of shamelessness into their Christian walk.

Genesis 3:7

Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked. And they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loincloths.

John 21:7

That disciple whom Jesus loved therefore said to Peter, “It is the Lord!” When Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord, he put on his outer garment, for he was stripped for work, and threw himself into the sea.

Isaiah 47:3

Your nakedness shall be uncovered, and your disgrace shall be seen. I will take vengeance, and I will spare no one.

Exodus 20:26

And you shall not go up by steps to my altar, that your nakedness be not exposed on it.’

Luke 8:27

When Jesus had stepped out on land, there met him a man from the city who had demons. For a long time he had worn no clothes, and he had not lived in a house but among the tombs.

Mark 5:15

And they came to Jesus and saw the demon-possessed man, the one who had had the legion, sitting there, clothed and in his right mind, and they were afraid.

Revelation 16:15

(“Behold, I am coming like a thief! Blessed is the one who stays awake, keeping his garments on, that he may not go about naked and be seen exposed!”)

Habakkuk 2:15

“Woe to him who makes his neighbors drink— you pour out your wrath and make them drunk, in order to gaze at their nakedness!

Revelation 3:18

I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, so that you may be rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself and the shame of your nakedness may not be seen, and salve to anoint your eyes, so that you may see.

Revelation 3:17

For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing, not realizing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked.

Genesis 9:22

And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father and told his two brothers outside.

Genesis 3:21
And the Lord God made for Adam and for his wife garments of skins and clothed them.

Genesis 3:10
And he said, “I heard the sound of you in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked, and I hid myself.”

Leviticus 18:6-18

“None of you shall approach any one of his close relatives to uncover nakedness. I am the Lord. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father, which is the nakedness of your mother; she is your mother, you shall not uncover her nakedness. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father's wife; it is your father's nakedness. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your sister, your father's daughter or your mother's daughter, whether brought up in the family or in another home. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your son's daughter or of your daughter's daughter, for their nakedness is your own nakedness. ...

Genesis 9:22-23
And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father and told his two brothers outside. Then Shem and Japheth took a garment, laid it on both their shoulders, and walked backward and covered the nakedness of their father. Their faces were turned backward, and they did not see their father's nakedness.

What about Isaiah bein naked?
are chirstian women who dont remove social media photos with cleavage or bikini in perpetual sin?

The Bible tells us in Isaiah 47:2-3 that NAKEDNESS means a woman exposing her legs and thighs...

Isaiah 47:1-3, “Come down, and sit in the dust, O virgin daughter of Babylon, sit on the ground: there is no throne, O daughter of the Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called tender and delicate. Take the millstones, and grind meal: uncover thy locks, make bare the leg, uncover the thigh, pass over the rivers. Thy nakedness shall be uncovered, yea, thy shame shall be seen: I will take vengeance, and I will not meet thee as a man.”
God's Definition Of “Nakedness”
 
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Well lets take Rev.16:15 (“Behold, I am coming like a thief! Blessed is the one who stays awake, keeping his garments on, that he may not go about naked and be seen exposed!”)

So if we take this reference literally of not being naked and to keep our clothes on so we are ready for Jesus, then to be consistent we also need teach that we shouldn't sleep because then we wouldn't be ready for Jesus' return. We know people can only go a few days without sleep before we can't function. So a literal interpretation can't be right.

I'd also argue that Solomon and the lady in SoS aren't married. I really don't see anywhere in that book that a wedding takes place.
 
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Many postings so far read that nudity is sinful.Sin is going against GOD'S will.
So in the understanding of some that would mean we are never to be naked anywhere.That would mean that we should never go to a dermatologist or a doctor for an operation because we could be naked in front of doctor's and nurses.We must bathe with all our clothes on.In that same line of thinking then we should not have children born because in the natural birth they would be born nude.
My paramedic friend who goes to our church has encountered many accidents where they had to cut clothes off patients to administer first aid.This would cause you to be naked in front of strangers.So then for sake of discussion one can see that there is good nudity just like when GOD created us naked and saw that it was good.
So then why as humans are we saying that being naked is bad or evil?
If you think that lust comes into play it can happen to being fully clothed or being naked.It is your free will.
 
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Nudity now has implications of sinfulness attached to it. With few exceptions, the Bible presents nakedness as shameful and degrading (Genesis 9:21; Exodus 20:26; 32:25; 2 Chronicles 28:19; Isaiah 47:3; Ezekiel 16:35-36; Luke 8:27; Revelation 3:17; 16:15; 17:16). The only passages in which nudity is free of shame are those that describe Eden’s idyllic setting or that deal with marital relations (Proverbs 5:18-19; Song of Solomon 4).
Nakedness, yes. Nudity, no.

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Many postings so far read that nudity is sinful.Sin is going against GOD'S will.
So in the understanding of some that would mean we are never to be naked anywhere.That would mean that we should never go to a dermatologist or a doctor for an operation because we could be naked in front of doctor's and nurses.We must bathe with all our clothes on.In that same line of thinking then we should not have children born because in the natural birth they would be born nude.
My paramedic friend who goes to our church has encountered many accidents where they had to cut clothes off patients to administer first aid.This would cause you to be naked in front of strangers.So then for sake of discussion one can see that there is good nudity just like when GOD created us naked and saw that it was good.
So then why as humans are we saying that being naked is bad or evil?
If you think that lust comes into play it can happen to being fully clothed or being naked.It is your free will.
As a child before I started attending church I thought religious people bathed with their clothes on. I think you have nude and naked mixed up.

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So according to this statement if we choose some clothing that would cause a person to lust we should avoid doing that because
Something else to consider is are others around you sinning in lust? We should not cause our brother/sister to stumble.
they could stumble.
 
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What we need to really focus on is spiritual nudity.I would rather stand naked in front of GOD and my fellow Christians than be be spiritually nude or naked in front of GOD and fellow Christians.
Because we need to strive for being clothed in HIS righteousness.
 
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So according to this statement if we choose some clothing that would cause a person to lust we should avoid doing that because

they could stumble.

According to the scriptures yes.

“But you must be careful so that your freedom does not cause others with a weaker conscience to stumble.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭8:9‬ ‭

“Anyone who loves a fellow believer is living in the light and does not cause others to stumble.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭2:10‬

“So let’s stop condemning each other. Decide instead to live in such a way that you will not cause another believer to stumble and fall.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭14:13‬

“It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything else if it might cause another believer to stumble.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭14:21‬

“So if what I eat causes another believer to sin, I will never eat meat again as long as I live—for I don’t want to cause another believer to stumble.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭8:13‬
 
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There is a wonderful outcome of this journey.That is we are searching GOD for answers.

So when we naturist Christians gather in his name we are sure we will not make anybody stumble.

Praise GOD from whom all blessings flow.
 
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Something else to consider is are others around you sinning in lust? We should not cause our brother/sister to stumble.

If one has a problem with lust then they should definitely go to a nudist resort ... that will solve the problem most times.
 
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According to webster's dictionary naked means not covered by clothing.
Nudity or nakedness is the state of wearing no clothing.The deliberate and conscious wearing of clothing is a behavioural adaptation.
Hmm! I found this in Merriam-Webster as definition 4

a : unarmed, defenseless
  • unwilling to hurt a naked man
b American football : marked by a lack of protection or coverage by blockers
  • a naked bootleg by the quarterback
Definition 1 is not covered by clothing : nude

Nude is not defined as without protection.

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Personally I would avoid such things. I’m not saying that everyone should avoid nudism but for me I believe I would have a problem with lust. Others might not
Belief and experience are quite different in this case.

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Something else to consider is are others around you sinning in lust? We should not cause our brother/sister to stumble.
Only if they are in my presence could this possibly be an issue. What one does out of their presence can not cause any problem. Confession or discussion alone does not cause one to stumble (sin). I go to wally's and one can lust easily there due to provocative dress. So the only solution I see is stay home behind closed doors and curtained windows.

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