What day of the week was Jesus resurrected? And how do we know?

BobRyan · Apr 2, 2018

1213 said:
Jesus healed on Shabbat day, I don’t see why God would not have raised Jesus from death at Shabbat day. Doing good on Shabbat day is not forbidden. But it is possible that Jesus raised just after the Shabbat was over.

He "could" have raised Jesus from the dead on Saturday (Sabbath) - but He chose to do it on Sunday.

(He did not say anything about Sunday being Sabbath or even a weekly day of worship...any more than Friday)

BobRyan · Apr 2, 2018

1213 said:
Actually, Sunday was the day when tomb was found empty. It is possible that Jesus was raised from the grave at Saturday (making Wednesday the day of crucifixion).

1 Sabbath is from Friday evening until Saturday evening after sunset. So you are right that in Roman time it could be counted as Saturday night but in Bible time anything after sundown would be week-day-1

2. However the text is very focused on "early in the morning" or just before dawn... or right at dawn.
It is hard to believe that all the focus on that exact hour is given in the text -- if the actual event was 11 pm Saturday evening. I think it is more reasonable to conclude that the Gospel writers were being so focused on that early day hour - because that is when the event actually happened.

3. The Gospels says Jesus would be raised "on the third day" and Luke 24 say "today is the third day" speaking of Sunday evening

BobRyan · Apr 2, 2018

1213 said:
Actually, Sunday was the day when tomb was found empty. It is possible that Jesus was raised from the grave at Saturday (making Wednesday the day of crucifixion).

1 Sabbath is from Friday evening until Saturday evening after sunset. So you are right that in Roman time it could be counted as Saturday night but in Bible time anything after sundown would be week-day-1

2. However the text is very focused on "early in the morning" or just before dawn... or right at dawn.
It is hard to believe that all the focus on that exact hour is given in the text -- if the actual event was 11 pm Saturday evening. I think it is more reasonable to conclude that the Gospel writers were being so focused on that early day hour - because that is when the event actually happened.

3. The Gospels says Jesus would be raised "on the third day" and Luke 24 say "today is the third day" speaking of Sunday evening

BobRyan · Apr 2, 2018

klutedavid said:
Well Bob, I must agree with what you wrote.

No one knows the time when Jesus rose, the scripture is silent on the exact time.

The scripture only declares that the apostles witnessed, the resurrected Christ on the first day of the week.

So we celebrate the resurrected Christ on Sunday.

The Gospels predict that He would be raised "the third day"
Luke 24 says that "today is the third day" speaking of Sunday evening late in the day.
The Gospel writers give a lot of focus to the hour just at sunrise or shortly before.

It is "possible" that Saturday night at 11 pm could be the time (for example) because that is still Sunday "the Third Day" according to Bible accounting for days and time. However the fact that the Gospel writers spend so much time focused on that early morning hour - and the fact that the "event" of the resurrection is more "significant" than when the women were walking around.. it makes sense that this focus on the hour - is helping the reader know when it took place.

BobRyan · Apr 2, 2018

klutedavid said:
Well Bob, I must agree with what you wrote.

No one knows the time when Jesus rose, the scripture is silent on the exact time.

The scripture only declares that the apostles witnessed, the resurrected Christ on the first day of the week.

So we celebrate the resurrected Christ on Sunday.

The Gospels predict that He would be raised "the third day"
Luke 24 says that "today is the third day" speaking of Sunday evening late in the day.
The Gospel writers give a lot of focus to the hour just at sunrise or shortly before.

It is "possible" that Saturday night at 11 pm could be the time (for example) because that is still Sunday "the Third Day" according to Bible accounting for days and time. However the fact that the Gospel writers spend so much time fo

Strong in Him · Apr 2, 2018

BobRyan said:
He "could" have raised Jesus from the dead on Saturday (Sabbath) - but He chose to do it on Sunday.

So how do you know that?
We are only told that the women went to the tomb early on Sunday morning - how do you know he wasn't raised at at 3.00 on Saturday afternoon? Or at 9.00 a.m Saturday morning?

klutedavid · Apr 2, 2018

BobRyan said:
The Gospels predict that He would be raised "the third day"
Luke 24 says that "today is the third day" speaking of Sunday evening late in the day.
The Gospel writers give a lot of focus to the hour just at sunrise or shortly before.

It is "possible" that Saturday night at 11 pm could be the time (for example) because that is still Sunday "the Third Day" according to Bible accounting for days and time. However the fact that the Gospel writers spend so much time fo

Hello Bob.

The accounts focus on the Sunday morning time frame, because that was when the tomb was found to be empty. No one had yet witnessed the risen Christ until later in the day.

klutedavid · Apr 2, 2018

EastCoastRemnant said:
Except you forget that the Sabbath was made for mankind. It was not something that Jesus was to be a type of, it was a memorial of Creation.

Correct ECR, though Jesus came as a man and was born under the law. The perfect fulfillment of everything that the first creation required, a perfect Sabbath rest. Hence, Christ rises on the first day and introduces a new creation based on an eternal time frame.

Silly Uncle Wayne · Apr 2, 2018

BobRyan said:
This one should be easy.

There is in fact one area where almost everyone agrees.

Agreed it should be easy... but I am not sure if you are asking a question (the heading) or making a statement (the OP).

Anyway, nobody disputes that the Jewish Sabbath was and is a Saturday, but it is a matter of historical record that Christians began to make Sunday the new Sabbath because that was the day that Jesus rose from the dead.

Whichever you choose you should remember that "the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath."

If one gets legalistic about the celebration of Sabbath, one is no longer living in the grace of God's new Kingdom.

The Times · Apr 2, 2018

BobRyan said:
Answer: Saturday is the 7th day - the Bible Sabbath (and that makes Sunday -- week day 1 -- the first day of the week)

Yes.

EastCoastRemnant said:
Except you forget that the Sabbath was made for mankind. It was not something that Jesus was to be a type of, it was a memorial of Creation.

Let us understand why the Sabbath rest day was for the Israelites, BUT...... NOT for Adam.

Adam was living in God's Sabbath perpetually. Do you understand, that Adam's every day, was within God's rest day. Adam was made for God's Sabbath day.

Adam's rest day ended when he disobeyed God and then he was told that he would work by the sweat of his brow. Adam no longer was made for God's Sabbath, because he was kicked out.

God in his mercy, seeing that man needed to rest, assigned a day, called the Sabbath, for the people of Israel. As Jesus said.......This particular Sabbath given to Moses, was made for man, but not for the purpose of man made for the Sabbath. (Mark 2:27)

Adam, on the other hand was made for the Sabbath.

Do you understand the big difference?

Now, when Jesus was crucified and rose on the 1st day of the week, this day became the spiritual eighth day of the week.

This meant, that those in Jesus once again entered God's rest day, on the eighth day, whereby the fall in the Garden was repaired and now......

Those in Jesus Christ are of the last Adam, once again being made for the Sabbath.

Do you understand?

In conclusion, born again believers in Christ are living in God's Sabbath perpetually. Do you understand, that OUR every day, IS within God's rest day. We have been restored to the Garden status, where the breach has been restored and we are living perpetually within God's New rest day, in Christ Jesus.

That is why the apostle wrote.......

8Now if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day. 9So there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. 10For whoever enters God’s rest also rests from his own work, just as God did from His. 11Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will fall by following the same pattern of disobedience. (Hebrews 4:8-11)

What prevented Adam from staying within God's rest day, was his works of disobedience. So the author in Hebrews states that another Sabbath rest day was appointed, for those who do not follow the works leading to a pattern of disobedience and who perpetually remain in Christ's eighth day rest.

The first day of the week is become the eighth day, where born again believers are once again made for God's rest day, as Adam was, before his fall.

Do you understand?

ralliann · Apr 2, 2018

EastCoastRemnant said:
He would not have violated the Sabbath by being resurrected (work of reCreation). Remember Sabbath ended at sundown. The women didn't arrive til early the next day.

He is a Priest....
Mt 12:5 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?
The priests worked in their ministry on the Sabbath, so also did Christ as well as his Apostles, also priests of the order of Melchizedek.

ralliann · Apr 2, 2018

BobRyan said:
He "could" have raised Jesus from the dead on Saturday (Sabbath) - but He chose to do it on Sunday.

(He did not say anything about Sunday being Sabbath or even a weekly day of worship...any more than Friday)

The law says there are festival Sabbaths which are distinct from the weekly Sabbath.
The feast of unleavened bread is a Sabbath on the 15th day and the 21st day of the first month every year. These are fixed Sabbaths by the date in the year.

Ex 12:15 Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread; even the first day ye shall put away leaven out of your houses: for whosoever eateth leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off from Israel.
Ex 12:16 And in the first day there shall be an holy convocation, and in the seventh day there shall be an holy convocation to you; no manner of work shall be done in them, save that which every man must eat, that only may be done of you.

As well as, Christ having risen on the first the day of the first fruit offering, was also risen on the first day of 50 days, the first week of weeks.
( the Pharisees took this to mean a festival Sabbath, the Sadducees took it to mean a weekly Sabbath that happened to fall within the feast of unleavened bread. Funny if that year his resurrection was the morrow after a weekly Sabbath. Forcing agreement between the two sects.... at least that particular year.
Le 23:15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:

De 16:9 Seven weeks shalt thou number unto thee: begin to number the seven weeks from such time as thou beginnest to put the sickle to the corn.

Therefore we could have....
!4th day Passover killed
15th day feast unleavened bread begins (A festival Sabbath) regardless the day of the week it falls
16th day the first day of weeks ( 7 Sabbaths, aka weeks) begins.

BobRyan · Apr 2, 2018

ralliann said:
The law says there are festival Sabbaths which are distinct from the weekly Sabbath.

Agreed.

But in the NT - Passover is always called "Passover"

The feast of unleavened bread is a Sabbath on the 15th day and the 21st day of the first month every year. These are fixed Sabbaths by the date in the year.

True and that Sabbath on the day of the Crucifixion was a "high Sabbath" -- two Sabbaths on the same day - the 15th was a weekly Sabbath that particular year.

ralliann said:
As well as, Christ having risen on the first the day of the first fruit offering, was also risen on the first day of 50 days, the first week of weeks.
( the Pharisees took this to mean a festival Sabbath, the Sadducees took it to mean a weekly Sabbath that happened to fall within the feast of unleavened bread. Funny if that year his resurrection was the morrow after a weekly Sabbath. Forcing agreement between the two sects.... at least that particular year.
Le 23:15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:

De 16:9 Seven weeks shalt thou number unto thee: begin to number the seven weeks from such time as thou beginnest to put the sickle to the corn.

Therefore we could have....
!4th day Passover killed
15th day feast unleavened bread begins (A festival Sabbath) regardless the day of the week it falls
16th day the first day of weeks ( 7 Sabbaths, aka weeks) begins.

But you can't have "week-day-1" as the "Third day" in any scenario outside of a Friday Crucifixion - since they are saying it - in Luke 24 -- late in the evening on Sunday and Christ is already risen.

BobRyan · Apr 2, 2018

The Times said:
Let us understand why the Sabbath rest day was for the Israelites, BUT...... NOT for Adam.

That would be a great thing to show - were it true.

"The Sabbath was made for mankind" Mark 2:27 -- "not mankind made for the Sabbath"

Which speaks of the "making of both".

We see "the making of both" in Genesis 1-2.

Genesis 1 - the making of man
Genesis 2 - the making of the Sabbath.

Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made". Gen 2

Ex 20
8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Adam was living in God's Sabbath perpetually. Do you understand, that Adam's every day, was within God's rest day

Sounds like creative writing. Ex 20:11 makes it clear it was one single day --
Less creative writing - more Bible please.

That is why the apostle wrote.......

8Now if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day. 9So there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. 10For whoever enters God’s rest also rests from his own work, just as God did from His. 11Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will fall by following the same pattern of disobedience. (Hebrews 4:8-11)

Another example of a text that does not appear to help the point you would like to make since in Hebrews 4 the statement is that the Sabbath "remains" as it was in Psalms 95 at the time of David... unchanged.

BobRyan · Apr 2, 2018

Silly Uncle Wayne said:
Agreed it should be easy... but I am not sure if you are asking a question (the heading) or making a statement (the OP).

Anyway, nobody disputes that the Jewish Sabbath was and is a Saturday, but it is a matter of historical record that Christians began to make Sunday the new Sabbath because that was the day that Jesus rose from the dead.

Certainly it is true that Sunday is week-day1 the day Jesus was raised from the dead.
And it is true that Saturday is the 7th day - the Bible Sabbath.

Ex 20
8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

And certainly you are right that over the centuries man-made traditions came along seeking to make week-day-1 the Sabbath

BobRyan · Apr 2, 2018

klutedavid said:
Correct ECR, though Jesus came as a man and was born under the law. The perfect fulfillment of everything that the first creation required, a perfect Sabbath rest. Hence, Christ rises on the first day and introduces a new creation based on an eternal time frame.

A good example of creative writing.

BobRyan · Apr 2, 2018

klutedavid said:
Hello Bob.

The accounts focus on the Sunday morning time frame, because that was when the tomb was found to be empty. No one had yet witnessed the risen Christ until later in the day.

The soldiers at the tomb had seen the risen Christ

The Gospel writers - write years later - and seem to focus on the early morning hours on Sunday. Probably because that was time of the big event.

BobRyan · Apr 2, 2018

BobRyan said: ↑
He "could" have raised Jesus from the dead on Saturday (Sabbath) - but He chose to do it on Sunday.

Strong in Him said:
So how do you know that?
We are only told that the women went to the tomb early on Sunday morning - how do you know he wasn't raised at at 3.00 on Saturday afternoon? Or at 9.00 a.m Saturday morning?

1 Cor 15:4 " he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, say Jesus was to be raised "on the third day"

Luke 24 says "today is the third day" and Jesus was already risen as of early that morning.

That makes Saturday the 2nd day. And 9 AM on Saturday would not be an example of "rising the third day"

klutedavid · Apr 2, 2018

BobRyan said:
The soldiers at the tomb had seen the risen Christ

The Gospel writers - write years later - and seem to focus on the early morning hours on Sunday. Probably because that was time of the big event.

Where does it say that the soldiers saw the risen Christ?

The big event was the empty tomb.

EastCoastRemnant · Apr 2, 2018

The Times said:
Let us understand why the Sabbath rest day was for the Israelites, BUT...... NOT for Adam.

Adam was living in God's Sabbath perpetually. Do you understand, that Adam's every day, was within God's rest day. Adam was made for God's Sabbath day.

The Bible does not confirm what you are stating. The Sabbath was the 7th day of the Creation week and God honoured that day and memorialized it. It is why the formal covenant made with the Israelites stated that the 7th day Sabbath was to be remembered. Remembered back to the origin of it the 7th day of Creation. The same way we are told in Isaiah that we will come to worship God on the 7th day Sabbath on the new earth, Eden renewed, was the same as it was in the beginning.

Adam's rest day ended when he disobeyed God and then he was told that he would work by the sweat of his brow. Adam no longer was made for God's Sabbath, because he was kicked out.

Adams relationship with God was severed when he disobeyed and it was only through the plan of redemption that Adam was given the chance to become sanctified through Christ and to regain that relationship with the Father.

Adam, on the other hand was made for the Sabbath.

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Again not scriptural... Jesus said that the Sabbath was made for man... that included Adam as he was the first man. You can try and twist this if you want but facts remain the same. Adam was not different from us. Yes, He lived in Paradise in a sinless state just a swe will on the earth made new. He was also in a fallen state, just as we are. There was no special Sabbath only for Adam.

Now, when Jesus was crucified and rose on the 1st day of the week, this day became the spiritual eighth day of the week.

Those are your words not based on Bible truth. Show me the scripture that say the 8th day, 1st day, any day other than the 7th day was spiritual.

Strong in Him · Apr 3, 2018

BobRyan said:
BobRyan said: ↑
He "could" have raised Jesus from the dead on Saturday (Sabbath) - but He chose to do it on Sunday.

1 Cor 15:4 " he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, say Jesus was to be raised "on the third day"

Luke 24 says "today is the third day" and Jesus was already risen as of early that morning.

That makes Saturday the 2nd day. And 9 AM on Saturday would not be an example of "rising the third day"

No one knows when Jesus was raised.
He was seen to have been raised on the 3rd day. But there is a tradition - mentioned in the creed - that Jesus "descended to the dead" and preached to people who lived in OT times who had never had a chance to know him. He can't have done that while he was dead, so maybe he was raised on Saturday.

Not that it matters - although I can see that it would to you.
Sunday is resurrection day; the day the world was let into the empty tomb.

What day of the week was Jesus resurrected? And how do we know?

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