I'm thinking if things keep going the way they are going at the rate they are going, it's highly likely it will be game over within 100 years. It's a big if because things could change over night, but I'm not sure how much more tech "progress" we can take before we'd be wiped out completely.
Any thoughts?
First, I thought you were watching too much news
. However, I've heard it from a JW whom I liked in 2017. She had a good knowledge of the Bible although our Bibles are different. To make a long story short, she told me one day that we are going to have the second coming soon. I didn't make much out of it, but a few days later I thought about the prophecies in the Bible. The Bible states we will not know, so I figured it's pointless to figure out if it will be soon or not.
That's only part of what the Bible says. I do not know all of the prophecies, so I did not try to read the Bible and figure it out. Usually, it's better to consult someone like the church Bible studies teacher or leaders in those situations, but I wasn't serious so didn't consult them.
I do enjoy trying to calculate when this may happen for entertainment purposes. I'm not trying to make light of a serious topic, but we have had serious prognosticators in the news who usually mislead their followers which wasn't my intent. It is just for fun and does no have to do with Biblical prophecies. I have not read anything in the Bible to give us a clue, so I don't know for sure. Maybe I missed a part or haven't read the verse(s). Anyhow, I thought I trying using the most successful forecasters of our time -- Nostradamus and Dr. Bruce Bueno de Mesquita.
One of the forecasts is the coming of WW III. This is not in the Bible. It's just a popular urban legend. Thus, it may or may not happen before the second coming.
On to Nostradamus. He is a French Catholic Jew who uses his quatrains in a nebulous manner, so that it can be applied to many things. What he provides for me is successful prophecies based on the topics in the Bible that aren't explained by the Bible. Whether or not his prophecies are accurate 100% of the time is not the question. It's that he provides a systematic approach to the methods of prophecies that is what's important. For the end of the world, his quatrains sees three antichrists as leading to the EOW. Two that have come so far are Napoleon and Adolf Hitler.
"An Emperor will be born near Italy, He will cost his Empire very dearly: He is less a prince than a butcher. – Nostradamus (1555)"
"Nostradamus code-named the second Antichrist “Hiƒter” — or “Hister” with a Gothic “s” — after the ancient name of the River Danube, which is the Ister. Nostradamus spells it with its most arcane variant Hister as some specific hint. Again, there’s a pattern to follow here. This “Danube” finds itself a thing representing a person mentioned as Hister in five prophecies containing similar story lines. He becomes the
“Captain of Greater Germany” born in Noricum (the ancient name for Austria). He will have a “crooked cross” as his symbol: the
Swastika. The people of “Irale” (an anagram for Israel) would be sent as captives into a great furnace by this “Hister.” It seems Nostradamus saw the boy who grew up on the banks of the Hister (Danube) River in Linz, Austria, dreaming of concentration camps for the Jews, Nostradamus’ kin, to be sent up in ash clouds."
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THE THIRD AND FINAL ANTICHRIST… MABUS
The Candidates for Mabus.
The prophet forged visions into cryptic verse after sitting alone in a state of trance in nightly vigils locked away in his secret upstairs study in Salon Provence summoning what he called “angelic emissaries from God” to his aid. In the mid-1550s, he received from them words, sounds and twilit images warning about a third and final antichrist that has yet to fully reveal himself. This man is described in a prophecy indexed 10 Q72 (Century 10, Quatrain 72) as,
The king of terror. He will enter the world stage, descending from distant future skies,
In the year 1999 September month.
Nostradamus fashioned anagrams out of numbers too. If the month of “September” is a lead, then “1999” could be a reverse code for the actual year, month and DAY:
1999 = 9111
Thus the prophecy means to say:
In the year 9.11.1 September month,
The great King of Terror comes from the Sky.
Nostradamus gave the Third Antichrist the following code name. He’s
Mabus. A number of notorious contemporary figures, still living or recently dead from the Middle East can see their names spelled in the Mabus code. But there also are other leaders from the West, deeply entangled in Middle Eastern turmoil, a current US president and a charismatic candidate who could be his successor whose names also easily decode out of Mabus, making the search for the right candidate the most provocative and topical challenge presented by Nostradamus for our present times.
Though his true name is occulted, the Third Antichrist’s destiny is made clear. Unlike the first two, he is the first to die in a war he initiates at the sign of a comet, or a rocket falling out of the skies:
World War III begins when Mabus dies a sudden death.
911: World Trade Center.
His act of terror unites a hundred nations in a war against what Nostradamus calls
three Eastern kings secretly allied in opposition to the West. They would use piracy (hijacking?),
ambush and
subterfuge to wage war.
Know the war has begun when
hollow mountains of
a great New City (yet to be built in Nostradamus’ day)
at latitude 45 in an unborn country he called
Americh or
Amorica, will be attacked by
a fire in the sky. The hollow mountains crafted by man will be
seized and plunged into the boiling cauldron of their own debris clouds.
After this happens, we will be living in the days
of the last Antichrist."
Nostradamus and the Antichrist:Code Named Mabus
We do not yet know the third even though some thought Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden. Mabus is close to anagram Usama. The three antichrists will lead to some great upheaval. Some think WW III, but it isn't made clear. Of course, some interpret a quatrain to mean WW III. But it didn't happen if Bin Laden was Mabus. One has to be cautious as John Hogue is out to sell his book. He may be the best interpreter of Nostradamus prophecies, but he isn't infallible.
It's the same with Bruce Bueno de Mesquita. He has a systematic algorithm, i.e. an app he wrote that calculates his prophecies based on game theory and his mathematical formula. (Game theory was invented by John Nash, John von Neumann and Jane Austin. I think Nash's version is the most popular today.) From his app, he writes articles from time tot time describing what it happening in the world today that is of consequence.
Again, it's a systematic approach that has been successful. You can say that the Bible presents a systematic approach and I would agree. It's just that the Bible does not provide enough in detail. Or is that a misconception of mine? For example, I brought up the antichrist and I think the Bible states there will be many of them. I say that is 100% valid. That said, it wasn't that important to the Biblical prophecy to state how many or who they were. Thus, I apply a systematic approach that of Bueno de Mesquita here. Before he discussed Iran and successfully predicted it would not lead to a global conflict or major superpowers conflict over nuclear weapons of mass destruction. With his recent articles, he seems to be suggesting someone who wants to hold unto his power will rise. Whether this information is of value is up to you.
Bruce Bueno de Mesquita
His is not strictly based on chance, but that of prediction based on historical performance. One can best make a forecast or prediction based on a systematic approach. That is my thinking. This is just my opinion, but as long as I am successful using it, then I do not care what the skeptics say.
Here's a list if you're interested. It's up to you to come up with the most successful.
List of Famous Prophets
BTW I'll throw in Sir Isaac Newton as a bonus. He predicted 2060 based on reading the Bible about End of Days prophecy and his skilled interpretation. Note, the writer and researcher of Newton also has a book for sale.
"Newton, like many historicist prophetic commentators of his age, believed that the prophetic time periods 1260, 1290, 1335 and 2300 days actually represent 1260, 1290, 1335 and 2300 years using the “day-for-a-year principle”.
For Newton these time periods (especially the 1260 years) represent the time span of the apostasy of the Church (for Newton this means the Trinitarian Church, chiefly the Catholics). Thus, he looked in history for the likely date when the apostasy formally began (one sign of this for him was the date when the papal church obtained temporal power). From there it was a simple matter of adding the time period to the beginning date. However, things are rarely so simple with Newton. As already mentioned, Newton looked askance at “date-setting”, and for this reason he rarely wrote out the end date for a time period once he had settled on a beginning date. There is a small number of exceptions, and the date 2060, found twice in the Yahuda MSS at Jerusalem, is one of them. The date 2060 is also significant because in addition to the rarity of end dates in Newton’s writings, the calculation giving the 2060 date comes from fairly late in his life and is asserted with uncharacteristic vigour.
Finding the commencement date was of great importance to Newton, since once he added the prophetic time periods to this date, he was able to determine when the great apocalyptic events of the end of the world were going to occur.
Although Newton believed there would be wars and cataclysms around the time of the end, for him this period was also the storm before the calm. Newton’s prophetic faith therefore has a positive element.
The prophetic time periods
- The time period 1260 days appears in Daniel 7:25 (as “a time and times and the dividing of time” [=a year, two years and a half year]), Daniel 12:7 (as “a time, times, and an half” [=a year, two years and a half year]), Revelation 11:3 (1260 days), Revelation 12:6 (1260 days) and Revelation 13:5 (42 months)
- The time period 1290 days appears in Daniel 12:11.
- The time period 1335 days appears in Daniel 12:12.
- The time period 2300 days occurs in Daniel 8:14.
How did Newton arrive at the date 2060?
This did not involve the use of anything as complicated as calculus, which he invented, but rather simple arithmetic that could be performed by a child. Beginning in the 1670s and continuing to the end of his life in 1727, Newton considered several commencement dates for the formal institution of the apostate, imperial Church. Earlier commencement dates include 607 and 609 A.D. As Newton grew older, he pushed the time of the end further and further into the future. In Yahuda MS 7 Newton twice gives 800 A.D. for the beginning of “the Pope’s supremacy”. The year 800 is a significant one in history, as it is the year Charlemagne was crowned emperor of Rome in the west by Pope Leo III at St. Peter’s in Rome. Since Newton believed that the 1260 years corresponded to the duration of the corruption of the Church, he added 1260 to 800 A.D. and arrived at the date 2060 for the “fall of Babylon” or cessation of the apostate Church. It seems that Newton believed the fall could perhaps begin somewhat before the end of the 1260-year period and continue for a short time afterward. Whatever the precise chronology, Newton believed that sometime shortly after the fall of the corrupt (Trinitarian, Catholic) Church, Christ would return and set up a 1000-year Kingdom of God on earth. On page 144 of his Observations (1733), Newton cited Daniel 7:26-27 as evidence of this:
But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion to consume and to destroy it unto the end. And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.
Newton espoused a premillenarian eschatology and thus held that Christ would return to earth to establish the Millennium.
Two examples of the date 2060 in Yahuda MS 7.3 (Jewish National and University Library, Jerusalem)
7.3g, folio 13 verso:
So then the time times & half a time are 42 months or 1260 days or three years & an half, recconing twelve months to a yeare & 30 days to a month as was done in the Calendar of the primitive year. And the days of short lived Beasts being put for the years of lived [sic] kingdoms, the period of 1260 days, if dated from the complete conquest of the three kings A.C. 800, will end A.C. 2060. It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner. This I mention not to assert when the time of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of fancifull men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, & by doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their predictions fail. Christ comes as a thief in the night, & it is not for us to know the times & seasons wch God hath put into his own breast.
Comments: This excerpt demonstrates that Newton was not only reluctant to set dates, but that he was convinced the end would not come in his lifetime. He took seriously biblical passages that assert that no-one except God knows the time of the end. Nevertheless, this excerpt shows that even Newton was fascinated with the prophetic conundrum of the date for the return of Christ and the beginning of the Millennium. Finally, although Newton’s statement was meant to demonstrate that the time of the end was several centuries away from his perspective, history has now caught up with his predictions, which helps explain the current interest in his apocalyptic calculations.
7.3o, folio 8r:
Prop. 1. The 2300 prophetick days did not commence before the rise of the little horn of the He Goat.
2 Those day [sic] did not commence a[f]ter the destruction of Jerusalem & ye Temple by the Romans A.[D.] 70.
3 The time times & half a time did not commence before the year 800 in wch the Popes supremacy commenced
4 They did not commence after the re[ig]ne of Gregory the 7th. 1084
5 The 1290 days did not commence b[e]fore the year 842.
6 They did not commence after the reigne of Pope Greg. 7th. 1084
7 The diffence [sic] between the 1290 & 1335 days are a parts of the seven weeks.
Therefore the 2300 years do not end before ye year 2132 nor after 2370.
The time times & half time do n[o]t end before 2060 nor after [2344]
The 1290 days do not begin [this should read: end] before 2090 [Newton might mean: 2132] nor after 1374 [sic; Newton probably means 2374]
Comments: These calculations are written on a letter-slip addressed to “Sir Isaac Newton”, and thus dating from after 1705, when Newton was knighted. In fact, the shaky handwriting suggests a date of composition late in Newton’s life. The manuscript fragment contains a number of interesting features, including the remnants of the red wax seal and a series of mathematical calculations. Thus, this sheet exhibits both mathematical calculations and calculations for the end of the world. It is this manuscript fragment that is shown at the end of the BBC 2 documentary
Newton: the dark heretic. When viewing the Yahuda manuscripts in Jerusalem on 9 December 2002, the day before the Jerusalem footage was shot for the documentary, I selected this manuscript as one of a series of worthy candidates to film. My reasons were as follows: not only does this letter slip show a date in Newton’s hand that is relevant to us today, but it is also visually interesting with its red wax seals, mathematical calculations and prophetic chronology, all of which helps provide an insight into the range of Newton’s thought. Of course, only one thing emerged from this manuscript in the documentary: the date 2060 A.D.
Did Newton believe the world would end in 2060?
No, not in a literal sense. For Newton, 2060 A.D. would be more like a new beginning. It would be the end of an old age, and the beginning of a new era—the era Jews refer to the Messianic age and the era premillenarian Christians term the Millennium or Kingdom of God.
What did Newton believe would happen around the time of 2060?
Newton was convinced that Christ would return around this date and establish a global Kingdom of peace. “Babylon” (the corrupt Trinitarian Church) would also fall and the true Gospel would be preached openly. Before the Second Coming, the Jews would return to Israel according to the predictions made in biblical prophecy. The Temple would be rebuilt as well. Slightly before, or around the time of Christ’s return, the great battle of Armageddon would take place when a series of nations (the “Gog and Magog” confederacy of Ezekiel’s prophecy) invade Israel. Christ and the saints would then intervene to establish a worldwide 1000-year Kingdom of God on earth. Citing the prophet Micah Newton believed this Kingdom would usher in a time of peace and prosperity, a time when people would “beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks” and when “nations shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more” (Micah 4:3). Although the documentary chose not to focus on this message of hope, Newton did believe that there would be a positive outcome to the war and destruction that would take place at the end of time. Newton took seriously the prophetic vision of world peace found in Isaiah 2 and Micah 4—a vision that sees Jerusalem as the beginning of peace. It is thus perhaps appropriate that the largest collection of Newton’s prophetic papers now resides in Jerusalem.
Why are his theological and prophetic beliefs important to our understanding of Newton?
Newton was not a “scientist” in the modem sense of that term. Instead, he was a “natural philosopher”. Practised from the Middle Ages to the eighteenth century, natural philosophy included not only the study of nature, but also the study of God’s hand at work in nature. Newton was committed to a notion of natural philosophy that saw the discovery of God and His attributes as its chief end. For this reason, any serious study of Newton’s natural philosophy must include an understanding of his theological views. For example, Newton’s famous concepts of absolute space and time were fundamentally based on his notion of God’s omnipresence and eternal duration. It is also clear from his private manuscripts that Newton believed the ideal natural philosopher would also be a priest of nature. For Newton, there was no impermeable barrier between religion and what we now call science. Throughout his long life, Newton laboured to discover God’s truth – whether in Nature or Scripture. Although he recognized disciplinary distinctions, Newton believed that truth was one. Thus, Newton’s study of Nature and Scripture were in a certain sense two halves of a whole: the discovery of the mind of God."
Statement on the Date 2060
Again, all of the above is for entertainment purposes and not any prophecy based on the Bible.
