Caution -- hell is for real

I had the word hell whispered into my ear in a dream before I was a believer and I saw the devil faced to face and so do countless others so I'm pretty sure it's not fake and if we ignore all the ancient cultures which believed in a hell-like concept in the afterlife.

We don't hear many of these messages anymore because if churches dwell there too long they tend to end up empty. People today want feel good messages from their God who only loves us. And He does love us but is also just. Justice must be served.

Dave G. said:

Justice must be served.

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And Galatians 6:7-8 says we all will reap what we have been sowing. What you reap is so much more than those tiny seeds that you have sown. So, hell is not only punishment equal to the crime, I would say, but also consequence.

What I get is, that how we are becoming is what will be multiplied in the resurrection. And then there will be the appropriate place for all which has developed in us and grown in us.

The Person of Jesus in us > Galatians 4:19 > will have us going to where Jesus is. And being perfected in His love is reason for us to have "boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world." (in 1 John 4:17)

But if a person lives in the spirit of selfishness > our Apostle Paul says there is "the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience" > in Ephesians 2:2. This spirit is nasty and negative, with various sorts of "torment" of fear > 1 John 4:18, Hebrews 2:14-15. And there are various sorts of frustration, instead of "rest for your souls." (Matthew 11:28-30) This horrible stuff of Satan will go to the flaming sewer which burns with fire and brimstone. And there are human buckets for carrying it there.

So, it is wise to trust in Jesus for salvation and how His grace turns people "from the power of Satan to God" > in Acts 26:18.

Thank for this post, It is real, In fact; it is talked about in the Word of God more than Heaven. So yes it is very real and many people are headed there out of pure ignorance of the word.

I just left walmart an hour ago and in the middle isle, on clearance today, in the toy section is magic 8 balls and wigi boards.
Can you believe that! Just makes me think "oh how the devil has fooled the masses". Matt 18:6 comes to mind as I think of parents and relatives buying little innocent kids this demonic stuff. So sad.

I know many people will say oh it's harmless, It's just a kid's game and all that non-sense. Let me tell you a fact! It opens doorways into the spiritual realm and you are inviting demons into you.
My cousin who suddenly passed away not long ago used to sit and play on a wigi board and one day some friends came over there to visit and they all took turns playing.
Her and one other girl was really laughing because it kept spelling out ice cream. The very next morning that one particular girl was hit and killed by an ice cream truck.
Was this demonic? was it a coincidence? I do not know, But what I can tell you for sure is that my cousin went completely crazy, cutting herself and talking non sense and fell over dead at age 30.
Another girl shot and killed herself at age 28.
I do not know about any of the others. I heard that a church supposedly came and burned this particular board after this all happened. Hell and demons are very real..

I've undergone a couple of demonic attacks in my time in the apple cart, I'm hear to say that is not of God. On the other hand God does allow us to see this stuff sometimes. We would do well to heed his Word, , just as mentioned above it is mentioned more than heaven in the bible. It's not as though we have no warning. Nobody has to convince me that hell is real. The unfortunate thing is many people never get right with God, even some church goers . They say when we get to heaven there will be people there we never expected to see there and not some people we did expect to see there.
Taking Heed
Most Relevant Verses

1 Corinthians 10:12

Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed that he does not fall.

Matthew 24:4

And Jesus answered and said to them, "See to it that no one misleads you.

1 Timothy 4:13

Until I come, give attention to the public reading of Scripture, to exhortation and teaching.

Hebrews 2:1

For this reason we must pay much closer attention to what we have heard, so that we do not drift away from it.

Matthew 6:1

"Beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your Father who is in heaven.

Matthew 18:10

"See that you do not despise one of these little ones, for I say to you that their angels in heaven continually see the face of My Father who is in heaven.

Mark 4:24

And He was saying to them, "Take care what you listen to. By your standard of measure it will be measured to you; and more will be given you besides.


Mark 13:9

"But be on your guard; for they will deliver you to the courts, and you will be flogged in the synagogues, and you will stand before governors and kings for My sake, as a testimony to them.

Mark 13:33
Verse Concepts
"Take heed, keep on the alert; for you do not know when the appointed time will come.


Luke 8:18
Verse Concepts
"So take care how you listen; for whoever has, to him more shall be given; and whoever does not have, even what he thinks he has shall be taken away from him."

Luke 11:35

"Then watch out that the light in you is not darkness.

Luke 12:15
Verse Concepts
Then He said to them, "Beware, and be on your guard against every form of greed; for not even when one has an abundance does his life consist of his possessions."

Luke 21:8

And He said, "See to it that you are not misled; for many will come in My name, saying, 'I am He,' and, 'The time is near ' Do not go after them.

1 Corinthians 3:10

According to the grace of God which was given to me, like a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building on it. But each man must be careful how he builds on it.

Colossians 4:17

Say to Archippus, "Take heed to the ministry which you have received in the Lord, that you may fulfill it."

1 Timothy 4:16

Pay close attention to yourself and to your teaching; persevere in these things, for as you do this you will ensure salvation both for yourself and for those who hear you.
2 Peter 1:19

So we have the prophetic word made more sure, to which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star arises in your hearts.

Deuteronomy 11:16

"Beware that your hearts are not deceived, and that you do not turn away and serve other gods and worship them.

>Mark 13:23

"But take heed; behold, I have told you everything in advance.

Luke 17:3

"Be on your guard! If your brother sins, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him.

Hebrews 3:12

Take care, brethren, that there not be in any one of you an evil, unbelieving heart that falls away from the living God.

Malachi 2:16

"For I hate divorce," says the LORD, the God of Israel, "and him who covers his garment with wrong," says the LORD of hosts. "So take heed to your spirit, that you do not deal treacherously."

2 John 1:8

Watch yourselves, that you do not lose what we have accomplished, but that you may receive a full reward

Al Masihi said:

I had the word hell whispered into my ear in a dream before I was a believer and I saw the devil faced to face and so do countless others so I'm pretty sure it's not fake and if we ignore all the ancient cultures which believed in a hell-like concept in the afterlife.

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What did the devil look like?

Jesus on "Hell" (geenna)

Revelation 20:15...believers' names
Anyone whose name was not found written in the (Lamb’s)"book of life" was thrown into the "lake of fire".

Revelation 21:27...UNbelievers' names
Nothing impure will ever enter it, (new heavens)
nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful,
but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s "book of life".

Matthew 10 (NASB)...Jesus to his disciples
28 Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; (separate the spirit from God)
but rather fear (revere) Him (God) who is able to destroy (separate) both soul and body in hell.

hell...Greek 1067...geenna
Hell is the place of the future punishment called "Gehenna" or "Gehenna of fire".
This was originally the valley of Hinnom, south of Jerusalem, where the filth and dead animals of the city were cast out and burned;
a fit symbol of the wicked and their future ...

Matthew 5:21-22 (KJV)
Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
But I say unto you,
That whosoever is angry with his brother "without a cause" shall be in danger of the judgment:
and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council:
but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell (geenna) fire. (pyr's only meaning)

Raca...Greek 4469...rhaka...
empty, i.e. a senseless, empty headed man...a term of reproach used among the Jews in the time of Christ

HELL...Yes!

The word "Hell" (from the Greek?) (or conceptually similar), is used / translated as such in the Bible: SEE: e.g. Matthew 10:28
1. the Hebrew word "Sheol" (lowest part of the Grave in the earth)...OT
2 . " Hades", the bad side of "Abraham's Busom" (once as "Tartarus"?)...NT...See: e.g. The Rich Man and Lazarus..Luke 16:19-31
3. "Gehenna", place of eternal burning (of "trash"?)...NT
4. "lake of fire"...only in Revelation...NT...SEE: Revelation 20:10-15: 21:8; 19:20

The "lake of fire" of Revelation is clearly described.

1. It is a place created by God to restrain Satan, demons, the un-holy trinity, death, and
the bad side of Abraham's Bosom..."Hades".
2. It is a place of eternal separation from the TRI-UNE GOD's realm in the future New Heavens and the New Earth and the New Jerusalem
3. At the Great White Throne Judgment, God sentences unbelievers whose names are NOT written in the Lamb's Book of Life to dwell therein.

John 3...Jesus and John the Baptizer...on being spritually born again from above...
36 He who believes in the Son has eternal LIFE; (heavenly realms)
but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, (spiritually eternal)
but the WRATH of GOD abides on him.” (un-heavenly realms)

John 5:24
“Truly, truly, I say to you,
he who hears My word,
and believes Him who sent Me,
has "eternal life", and
does not come into JUDGMENT,
but has passed out of (eternal) death into (eternal)life.

Matthew 25
46 These (unbelieving goat NATIONS) will go away into "eternal punishment",
but the righteous (believing sheep NATIONS) into "eternal life".”

Matthew 13...Jesus Parable of "Tares/weeds"...UNbelievers... among "Wheat"...believers: EXPLAINED
24.Jesus presented another parable to them, saying,
“The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a man who sowed good seed in his field.
37 And He said,
“The one who sows the good seed is the Son of Man,
38 and the field is the world;
and as for the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom;
and the tares are the sons of the evil one;
39 and the enemy who sowed them is the devil,
and the harvest is "the end of the age";
and the reapers are angels.
So just as the tares are gathered up and "burned with fire",
so shall it be at "the end of the age.
The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and
they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness,
42 and will throw them into "the furnace of fire";
in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
43 Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.
He who has ears, let him hear.

Hell is not real. There's no such thing. It doesn't even exist in the Bible. It was made up by the Catholic church to scare people into following the church.

LastSeven said:

Hell is not real. There's no such thing. It doesn't even exist in the Bible. It was made up by the Catholic church to scare people into following the church.

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What bible you reading?

You guys have been fooled. Think about your idea of hell and then ask yourself if that idea is described in scripture anywhere.

The word translated as hell is either hades or sheol or Gehenna. In the case of hades and sheol it means simply "the grave" and the grave is the same for both the righteous and the wicked.

In the case of Gehenna it refers to a garbage dump outside Jerusalem where garbage was burned, and earlier than that where pagans sacrificed their children to Molek in fire.

The only thing that comes close to a scriptural hell is the lake of fire but that's merely a symbol for total destruction.

LastSeven said:

The word translated as hell is either hades or sheol or Gehenna. In the case of hades and sheol it means simply "the grave" and the grave is the same for both the righteous and the wicked.

In the case of Gehenna it refers to a garbage dump outside Jerusalem where garbage was burned, and earlier than that where pagans sacrificed their children to Molek in fire.

The only thing that comes close to a scriptural hell is the lake of fire but that's merely a symbol for total destruction.

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LastSeven is 100% right. Hell is a pagan lie. It was one of the many pagan lies incorporated into the Catholic Church. Any Bible that translates the totally unrelated words, "sheol", "hades", and "gehenna" into "HELL" is just perpetuating this myth and lying to you in the interim.

The concept of hell, as a place where our loving God tortures those in His creation who don't believe in Him, with fire, 24/7, forever, is a terrible insult to our God. Christ died for the sins of the entire world, not just those who believe in Him.
1Jn 2:2
"And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world."

I just read recently that in the original KJV AV, the word "hel" was used for hades and it meant a "covered place" - sounds like a grave to me. Paul, the only apostle to us Gentiles, wrote more than half of the NT books, if you count Hebrews, which I do. Paul, our only apostle, which you already know if you're a Bible believer, said:
Acts 20:27
"For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God."

In all of Paul's 14 books, all written in black letters, which are just as inspired as the red letters, the word "hell" does not appear once, even though he said in Ac 20:27 that he had told us everything. Hades appears once in Paul's writings, where it is correctly translated as "grave." Here's the well-known verse,
1Cor 15:55
"O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?"

LastSeven said:

The word translated as hell is either hades or sheol or Gehenna. In the case of hades and sheol it means simply "the grave" and the grave is the same for both the righteous and the wicked.

In the case of Gehenna it refers to a garbage dump outside Jerusalem where garbage was burned, and earlier than that where pagans sacrificed their children to Molek in fire.

The only thing that comes close to a scriptural hell is the lake of fire but that's merely a symbol for total destruction.

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No hell?
Then what is this place Apostle Peter writes of?
Hell, was a place, the early church believed existed, and apart from, separated from heaven.
And it is a place where the wicked go who will be judged afterwards on the Great Day of the Lord.
Hell is a place of punishment for sinners who are unforgiven.
A place where sinners have consciousness, a place of torment, where they await the final judgement.
2 Peter 2
4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;

5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly; 7 and delivered righteous Lot, who was oppressed by the filthy conduct of the wicked 8 (for that righteous man, dwelling among them, tormented his righteous soul from day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds)— 9 then the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations and to reserve the unjust under punishment for the day of judgment, 10 and especially those who walk according to the flesh in the lust of uncleanness and despise authority.

sdowney717 said:

No hell?
Then what is this place Apostle Peter writes of?
Hell, was a place, the early church believed existed, and apart from, separated from heaven.
And it is a place where the wicked go who will be judged afterwards on the Great Day of the Lord.
Hell is a place of punishment for sinners who are unforgiven.
A place where sinners have consciousness, a place of torment, where they await the final judgement.
2 Peter 2
4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;

5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly; 7 and delivered righteous Lot, who was oppressed by the filthy conduct of the wicked 8 (for that righteous man, dwelling among them, tormented his righteous soul from day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds)— 9 then the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations and to reserve the unjust under punishment for the day of judgment, 10 and especially those who walk according to the flesh in the lust of uncleanness and despise authority.

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In verse 4, the word is Tartarus. It's only used once, in 2Pet 2, and only for the fallen angels. It has nothing to do with humans. Actually, it's much closer to the pagan meaning of Hell than the main 3 words wrongly translated as hell: sheol (the grave in the OT), hades (the grave in the NT), and gehenna (the ever burning trash pit that was outside of Jerusalem - at one time, children were sacrificed there, to Moloch). In vs 9, the punishment for these despicable homosexual humans and those angels that appeared as humans, at that time, will be permanent death. Human Hell is not mentioned or inferred. The wages of sin is death, not eternal torture in fire, 24/7, forever, by our loving Creator. To even conceive of this pagan hell is a huge insult to God.

The early church was locked in to paganism and wrongly thinking that everything actually for Israel was also for the Gentiles, just like the terrible, unknowledgeable, denominational system is today. After you are saved, don't expect to learn anything worthwhile in any church that I know of.

sdowney717 said:

No hell?
Then what is this place Apostle Peter writes of?
Hell, was a place, the early church believed existed, and apart from, separated from heaven.

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And do you believe everything the early church believed?

sdowney717 said:

2 Peter 2
4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;

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5020 tartaróō – properly, send to Tartarus ("Tartaros"). The NT uses 5020 (tartaróō) for the netherworld – the place of punishment fit only for demons. Later, Tartaros came to represent eternal punishment for wicked people.

You see that? The original meaning had nothing to do with punishment for wicked people. The church added that in later.

sdowney717 said:

9 then the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations and to reserve the unjust under punishment for the day of judgment, 10 and especially those who walk according to the flesh in the lust of uncleanness and despise authority.

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Doesn't say anything about hell here.

ac28 said:

The wages of sin is death, not eternal torture in fire

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qft

Well anybody who doubts hell is for real needs to come to Atlanta during rush hour traffic.

LastSeven said:

And do you believe everything the early church believed?

5020 tartaróō – properly, send to Tartarus ("Tartaros"). The NT uses 5020 (tartaróō) for the netherworld – the place of punishment fit only for demons. Later, Tartaros came to represent eternal punishment for wicked people.

You see that? The original meaning had nothing to do with punishment for wicked people. The church added that in later.

Doesn't say anything about hell here.

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Consistency is key to understanding scriptural concepts.
'Torment us before the time', these demons knew where they were going, that is to the fire of hell in the future.

Matthew 8:28-30 New King James Version (NKJV)
Two Demon-Possessed Men Healed
28 When He had come to the other side, to the country of the Gergesenes, there met Him two demon-possessed men, coming out of the tombs, exceedingly fierce, so that no one could pass that way. 29 And suddenly they cried out, saying, “What have we to do with You, Jesus, You Son of God? Have You come here to torment us before the time?”

30 Now a good way off from them there was a herd of many swine feeding.

And Jesus says this about the fire of hell, it hurts a lot!, so they are conscious.
Matthew 13:49-51 New King James Version (NKJV)
49 So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just, 50 and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.”

51 Jesus said to them, “Have you understood all these things?”

They said to Him, “Yes, Lord.”

And this also about fire of hell. This idea of tormenting fires of hell means eternal conscious torment.
It is the place where unforgiven sinners are cast by the holy angels and Jesus says it is eternal punishment in hell. And is identical to the same place the devil and his angels go.
Matthew 18:8
“If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life lame or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the everlasting fire.

Matthew 18:9
And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast itfrom you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into hell fire.

Matthew 25:41
“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

You can not say this is just catholic human doctrine, as these are the written scriptures, and doctrine of Christ Himself.