The role of Church is not to do charity to the public?

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I am in Malaysia, I heard some pastors say that the role of Church is not to do charity to the public, is that correct?

For Buddhism in Malaysia, many temples are keen to give food and medicine to old and poor people, but why Churches are not keen to do that.
Some say because churches have less money than temple,
temple can do business like selling places to put the ashes of cremated people.

Overall, Christianity does less charity than Buddhism in my country,
why?
 

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Jesus has warned us with the story of poor Lazarus neglected by the Rich man.
Many rich people dont share their wealth but their curses only.
Learning to See and Serve Christ in Poor Lazarus: Homily for the 5th Sunday of Luke in the Orthodox Church – Eastern Christian Insights

The rich man ignored the clear teachings of Moses and the prophets on his obligation to care for his poor neighbors. By literally stepping over the wretched beggar Lazarus on his front porch time and time again, he blinded himself to the humanity of one created in the image and likeness of God and with whom Christ identified Himself as “the least of these my brethren.” He ignored God every time that he ignored his neighbor. This blindness became so characteristic of the rich man that, once he departed this life, he was unable to behold the brilliant glory of God and could perceive only a tormenting flame.

Matt 25:
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these my brethren, ye did it not to me.
 
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I am in Malaysia, I heard some pastors say that the role of Church is not to do charity to the public, is that correct?

For Buddhism in Malaysia, many temples are keen to give food and medicine to old and poor people, but why Churches are not keen to do that.
Some say because churches have less money than temple,
temple can do business like selling places to put the ashes of cremated people.

Overall, Christianity does less charity than Buddhism in my country,
why?

That is a good question. Many churches are poor. The ones that aren't poor help the poor. Then there are those people who think they are Christians, but if they truly are they will help others.
 
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I am in Malaysia, I heard some pastors say that the role of Church is not to do charity to the public, is that correct?

For Buddhism in Malaysia, many temples are keen to give food and medicine to old and poor people, but why Churches are not keen to do that.
Some say because churches have less money than temple,
temple can do business like selling places to put the ashes of cremated people.

Overall, Christianity does less charity than Buddhism in my country,
why?
What are the churches doing?
 
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I am in Malaysia, I heard some pastors say that the role of Church is not to do charity to the public, is that correct?

Well it does matter how much money they truly have to spend on things other than the church building.

The main purpose of the church is to share the gospel. Reading and interpreting correctly the Word of God.

Maybe the question should be what do we do personally so as to help the poor?

M-Bob
 
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I am in Malaysia, I heard some pastors say that the role of Church is not to do charity to the public, is that correct?

For Buddhism in Malaysia, many temples are keen to give food and medicine to old and poor people, but why Churches are not keen to do that.
Some say because churches have less money than temple,
temple can do business like selling places to put the ashes of cremated people.

Overall, Christianity does less charity than Buddhism in my country,
why?
Overall, Christian churches do enormous amounts of charity work, although it often goes unnoticed by people who are not particularly involved with that work.

However, I do not know what the situation is in your country or how the Buddhist temples compare with anything else.

So I am guessing that the problem has something to do with the situation of the Christian churches in Malaysia in particular. I have heard that the Christians are under threat from the Muslim people who are less interested in the Buddhists, but I really do not know.
 
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I am in Malaysia, I heard some pastors say that the role of Church is not to do charity to the public, is that correct?

For Buddhism in Malaysia, many temples are keen to give food and medicine to old and poor people, but why Churches are not keen to do that.
Some say because churches have less money than temple,
temple can do business like selling places to put the ashes of cremated people.

Overall, Christianity does less charity than Buddhism in my country,
why?
I cannot speak to Christianity in Malaysia, since I live in the USA. I think the first thing a church should do is submit to the commandments of the Lord. Having done that, I think a church looks out at the world to see if it can satisfy any of the world's needs. A church can only afford what it can afford, though.
 
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I am in Malaysia, I heard some pastors say that the role of Church is not to do charity to the public, is that correct?

For Buddhism in Malaysia, many temples are keen to give food and medicine to old and poor people, but why Churches are not keen to do that.
Some say because churches have less money than temple,
temple can do business like selling places to put the ashes of cremated people.

Overall, Christianity does less charity than Buddhism in my country,
why?

That would be a question you should ask of the pastors that you heard say that and you can share with them the verses I posted below.

Deuteronomy 15:11
Luke 14:12-14
James 1:27
Proverbs 21:13
Leviticus 19:9-10
Matthew 25:35-40
 
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I am in Malaysia, I heard some pastors say that the role of Church is not to do charity to the public, is that correct?

For Buddhism in Malaysia, many temples are keen to give food and medicine to old and poor people, but why Churches are not keen to do that.
Some say because churches have less money than temple,
temple can do business like selling places to put the ashes of cremated people.

Overall, Christianity does less charity than Buddhism in my country,
why?

I have no idea.

Christianity has helping the poor as a core purpose of the church. That's all over the Bible. Everyone here has posted numerous verses about it, all of which are correct.

I don't know why your church there does not. Find another church? Sounds like a bad church to me.
 
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A lot of churches in the west do a ton of charity, but honestly it usually happens because these churches get so much money from its members. They can afford to hire people to help the poor. Small churches with poorer or average income members will have enough trouble taking care of their basic costs - a building, taxes, keeping a pastor and possibly smaller, but necessary things like getting bibles and hymnals.

While the church as an institution in your country might not do much charity, it doesn't mean it's a bad church. Just right now it has to focus its finances to the core meaning: teaching the gospel and bigger scale charity will have to come later. The people in the church are just as obligated to feed the poor and care for the sick regardless of what the local church institution does. Who knows, maybe some western christians are lazier at caring for their personal responsibility fir the needy with all the money they give out.

That was my two cents today. I think thhat's something to ponder for all of us too. On one hand church IS an institution, and also a building, but the most important part of it is its members. What share do they have in filling the churches mission?
 
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I am in Malaysia, I heard some pastors say that the role of Church is not to do charity to the public, is that correct?

For Buddhism in Malaysia, many temples are keen to give food and medicine to old and poor people, but why Churches are not keen to do that.
Some say because churches have less money than temple,
temple can do business like selling places to put the ashes of cremated people.

Overall, Christianity does less charity than Buddhism in my country,
why?

Acts 2:42 could be considered a purpose statement for the church: “They devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and to the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer.” According to this verse, the purposes/activities of the church should be 1) teaching biblical doctrine, 2) providing a place of fellowship for believers, 3) observing the Lord’s supper, and 4) praying.

The church is to teach biblical doctrine so we can be grounded in our faith. Ephesians 4:14 tells us, “Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.” The church is to be a place of fellowship, where Christians can be devoted to one another and honor one another (Romans 12:10), instruct one another (Romans 15:14), be kind and compassionate to one another (Ephesians 4:32), encourage one another (1 Thessalonians 5:11), and most importantly, love one another (1 John 3:11).

The church is to be a place where believers can observe the Lord’s Supper, remembering Christ’s death and shed blood on our behalf (1 Corinthians 11:23-26). The concept of “breaking bread” (Acts 2:42) also carries the idea of having meals together. This is another example of the church promoting fellowship. The final purpose of the church according to Acts 2:42 is prayer. The church is to be a place that promotes prayer, teaches prayer, and practices prayer. Philippians 4:6-7 encourages us, “Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.”

Another commission given to the church is proclaiming the gospel of salvation through Jesus Christ (Matthew 28:18-20; Acts 1:8). The church is called to be faithful in sharing the gospel through word and deed. The church is to be a “lighthouse” in the community, pointing people toward our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. The church is to both promote the gospel and prepare its members to proclaim the gospel (1 Peter 3:15).

Some final purposes of the church are given in James 1:27: “Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.” The church is to be about the business of ministering to those in need. This includes not only sharing the gospel, but also providing for physical needs (food, clothing, shelter) as necessary and appropriate. The church is also to equip believers in Christ with the tools they need to overcome sin and remain free from the pollution of the world. This is done by biblical teaching and Christian fellowship.

So, what is the purpose of the church? Paul gave an excellent illustration to the believers in Corinth. The church is God’s hands, mouth, and feet in this world—the body of Christ (1 Corinthians 12:12-27). We are to be doing the things that Jesus Christ would do if He were here physically on the earth. The church is to be “Christian,” “Christ-like,” and Christ-following.

www.gotquestions.org/purpose-church.html
 
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I am in Malaysia, I heard some pastors say that the role of Church is not to do charity to the public, is that correct?

For Buddhism in Malaysia, many temples are keen to give food and medicine to old and poor people, but why Churches are not keen to do that.
Some say because churches have less money than temple,
temple can do business like selling places to put the ashes of cremated people.

Overall, Christianity does less charity than Buddhism in my country,
why?

Your post also reminded me of an article I read long ago. It is,

In His Name
The followers of Christ have marched forth in His name armed with commandments of love and have turned the world upside down. Organizations working in the name of God's precious son Jesus have fed more hungry, housed and clothed more poor, ministered to more sick, visited more prisoners and educated more illiterate than all the world's other organizations combined. In His name, more broken hearts have been mended, more broken homes restored, more hope given to the hopeless, more widows and orphans cared for than by any other. In His name untold multitudes of alcoholics and drug addicts have been delivered and restored to their households. Prostitutes have been redeemed and wayward children restored to their families. In Jesus name more hospitals have been commissioned, more colleges and universities established, more missionaries funded and dispatched, and more charitable organizations chartered than by any other name. Many years ago an anonymous writer clearly summed up this matter in this following statement:

He was born in an obscure village, the child of a peasant woman. Until He was thirty, He worked in a carpenter's shop and then for three years He was an itinerant preacher. He wrote no books. He held no office. He never owned a home. He was never in a big city. He never traveled two hundred miles from the place He was born. He never did any of the things that usually accompany greatness. The authorities condemned His teachings. His friends deserted Him. One betrayed Him to His enemies for a paltry sum. One denied Him. He went through the mockery of a trial. He was nailed on a cross between two thieves. While He was dying, His executioners gambled for the only piece of property He owned on earth: His coat. When He was dead He was taken down and laid in a borrowed grave.

Nineteen centuries have come and gone, yet today He is the crowning glory of the human race, the adored leader of hundreds of millions of the earth's inhabitants. All the armies that ever marched, all the navies that were ever built, all the parliaments that ever sat and all the rulers that ever reigned -- put together -- have not affected the life of man upon this earth so profoundly as that One Solitary Life.
 
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Ok, I had attended quite a number of churches,
some members of the church are poor, but the church does not even help its own poor members.
Well it sounds like there's room for improvement there.. There ought to be some ways of asking the church (as an institution) for help. An office hour specifically set up for the pastor to talk to members in need of help and a set amount of finances for that for example. Or something else. But I do still want to stress the resppnsibility of every churchgoer toward the poorer christian and non-christian around them. Do you know someone who makes less then you? Invite them for dinner, ask them if their children need clothes, offer to pay a bill if you can.
 
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