I am so mad at God

Blade · Mar 18, 2018

Derpytia, hmm raper in a song said something like "walking this earth is like a slap in the face God is real".

He has never failed you. For you.. I was listening to Jewish people on youtube that found Christ. Over and over.. they would talk about "Christians" and how they had THEIR GOD.. thats MY GOD so many would say. As if I had in my eyes I had the left over Christ.. they were the REAL children and I was the DOG that eats the bread that falls. So.. one night I was lol sad.. hurt mad. I WANTED HIM to tell me.. I wanted to hear HIM say.. I LOVE YOU JUST AS MUCH as ANY Jewish person. So.. just before I went to bed and I expected NOTHING..for what happen haha does NOT happen all the time.. I am 56 and it only happen ONE time before this.

Well I in my mind TRIED to picture me and some Jewish person just sitting to my left and TRIED to picture Jesus before us. If I drew the picture ..you would see a knee and a blob of colors.. yeah.. haha..could not picture anything. Well as I pictured this.. I asked... tell me I am just as important.. tell me you love me just as much as this Jewish person like the one sitting next to me. THAT is what I was thinking.. what I EXPECTED!

Well.. as GOD as my witness.. it came to life..the picture. This hand comes down with this out of EVERYTHING I TRIED to picture THIS was NOT what I was thinking but...oh this SMALL beautiful dark yet not oh so beautiful small tree that had WOW TONS of branches and He put it right between us.. what was strange as the branches. Well EVERY branch was like a "U" and TONS of them. Then this is what He said "show me a branch that was not ORIGINALLY of the vine. I am the vine you are the branches". <-----this yeah... NOTHING WHAT SO EVER the answer I wanted not thinking...yet... it was perfect. I still dont really understand "originally of the vine".

See..it ALWAYS has to be written. And He came back with the WORD. It is a FACT I am we are grafted in as if we were ALWAYS of the vine. He loves you.. He came died as if you were the only one that would ever believe. And a FACT is..He cries so very heard for not ONE on this earth knows how much HE loves them. Ask to see people through HIS eyes. Not ONE on this planet knows how much He loves them.. this hurts Him. He came died took all the sins so those HE loves would NEVER die but be with Him forever. Everything was MADE FOR YOU! YOU are the reason. You are the most important one to Him. He feels means this for ALL..He is GOD He DOES THIS!

I KNOW what it feels like looks like sounds like. But He has NEVER Left you. What does HIS WORD say about what ever it is you are going through? Say fear.. what does HIS word say? He has NOT give us the spirit of fear but of power love and a sound mind. So.. no matter what I FEAR no matter no strong how long..what ever.. I will not move. I will say..NO! I dont receive this fear.. He has not GIVEN me the spirit of fear. I will also say.. I keep my mind on HIM and HE keeps me in perfect peace. HE said this. HE cant lie. Now.. if I DOUBT He said.. if you doubt let not that man think He will get ANYTHING from God.

But if we KNOW He hears us then we KNOW He WILL give us what we petition/prayed for. DONT Look at time. Pray.. His word.. HIS word is HIS will. He told you.. MY JOY is your strength. He said to YOU "Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness."KJV or "So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand."

He has never left you. The enemy has been lying to you. Using how you FEEL against you. You can not see it.. but even when it was do dark and you fell.. lost hope.. He never did..He has never stopped..what HE started He will finish...can you not see the light braking through? In every pray.. He is WORKING For you good. Be like a child.. read His word and just believe. NO matter what it looks like feels like sounds like.. HE WILL KEEP HIS WORD! Just blindly trust Him. A perfect peace.. is what you will get... to show you to confrim to you.. He has NEVER given up or stopped. You will ask.. HOW can I have such a PEACE NOW! Then.. you will realize ... He is there..never left.

deusartemlux · Mar 19, 2018

Lit said:
My Bible says "cares nothing" instead of "hate" in John 12:25 (NLT). Notice how a verb change substantially can alter the meaning of a verse. Whatever translation you use, hating the life God gave you and ranting against God does not score anyone any points toward heaven.

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I will pray for you and the others on this thread that you can quit hating yourselves and realize that you are Children of the Most High.

According to Jesus if you love your life you will lose it. The alternative? Hate my life and the sin so closely associated with it. Life as we humans know it is ruined by sin. Life in Christ is, of course, lovely. You can't follow Jesus unless you are willing to mortalize (hate) your life without him. Period.

aiki · Mar 19, 2018

derpytia said:
I'm sorry this is a rant but I am absolutely mad at Him. I'm so incredibly furious and heartbroken and He knows it. I know that in order to have us love Him of our free will he had to let Satan have his rebellion. But He should have never ever created humans to begin with. He should have never ever created us living human beings. God doesn't even need us! If He never created us He'd be fine. He wouldn't be lonely and He is complete within Himself as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. He literally never needed us at all. He never needed anyone.

Yes, and? God's aseity and perfection are important parts of why and how He is God. Why does this disturb you? I shouldn't like a God who wasn't either of these things.

derpytia said:
How could He just create living beings knowing how fragile, vulnerable, and prone we are? How could he be so selfish like that? We are His creation and yet He never protected us at all costs. What father wouldn't rescue his children from danger no matter the cost? We are nothing but individuals playing out our little parts in the grand cosmic drama and trial that is life on earth and to know that hurts more than anything.

Our physical bodies are weak and fragile but our immortal souls are not. And one day God will unite the souls of His saints with their glorified, incorruptible bodies.

God never protected us "at all costs"? Have you not heard of Christ's incarnation and his atoning sacrifice on the cross of Calvary? What more cost should Jesus have borne, exactly, to redeem us from ourselves and bring us into eternal relationship with himself? What more could he have done to protect us from the eternal consequences of our sin and yet not violate our ability to freely choose to love him?

The truth of your relative insignificance only hurts in proportion to your desire for self-importance which is, essentially, pride. That you don't matter that much in the grand scheme of things is only a problem when you think you ought to - and do - matter a lot. But, again, it is just bruised pride that protests insignificance.

derpytia said:
Not once has He ever answered a single one of my prayers, even when they were pure and unselfish.

That's...interesting. He's answered a countless number of my prayers...

derpytia said:
Every single time we have cried out to Him over the course of our lives for help and comfort and guidance He has turned away from us. We have been put through more sorrow, misery, and doom than most people and we never recover from any of it. And none of it was our fault!

I see something has caused you pain. Let me ask you: Have you been unjustly accused and ridiculed? Have you been beaten with whips 'til the flesh has hung in bloody ribbons from your body? Have you been forced to carry the means of your own execution before staring, jeering crowds to the place of your death? Have you been stripped near-naked and nailed to a cross and left to slowly suffocate to death (or die of shock from your wounds)? You get my point, I'm sure. No one - not even God incarnate - has escaped the pain and misery that afflicts every human being, sooner or later. God has shared in our pain; He knows it intimately. He does not stand above us, cold and uncaring, but offers to walk with us, to carry us if need be, through life's dark and terrible storms.

Psalms 46:1
1 ...God is our refuge and strength, A very present help in trouble.

Turning your back on God and railing against Him for the sorrow and pain you've endured merely leaves you to endure that sorrow and pain alone. You are not better equipped to suffer life's inevitable hurts and tragedies by spurning God's company.

derpytia said:
t was not my fault I was born defective. It was not my fault my father decided to become an alcoholic and abusive and eventually leave and never take responsibility. It was not my fault that a surgery failed leaving me with glaucoma and dashing my chances of seeing out of two eyes forever. It was not my fault that I was bullied and tormented all through elementary and middle school. It was not my fault that I developed hearing loss and the most severe case of tinnitus I have ever heard of. It is not my fault that I got visual snow and PCOS and chronic depression and anxiety.

Is someone saying it is your fault?

derpytia said:
None of this was our fault and we deserved none of this!! Yet God let the devil have his way with us with no consequences and no rescue! We cry out to Him daily and He never ever rescues us. He never ever does anything ever!! So many people on this earth who are suffering so terribly without end cry out to Him to save them and He never comes. He never shows up when we need Him most. He never rescues anyone.

Jesus never deserved any of what he suffered, either. The horrible and unavoidable consequence of Sin is that you and I suffer - and sometimes very awfully. Is your plight improved by shaking your fists at God and hating Him for not doing more to protect you from life's pain? Are you made better by accusing God? Not that I can see.

God has "shown up" over and over again in my life. I have seen Him support, and provide, and carry me through times that should have destroyed me. God is as good as His promises made to all of us in His word. He has not, however, kept me from terrible hurt and pain - and there will be more yet to come, I'm sure - but I would rather have Him with me in those times, than in a fit of angry spite push God away and rush into life's darkness and trouble alone.

Why is it that God is so present in my life and so apparently absent in yours? Why does He fulfill His promises to me but not to you? I'm no better than you; I'm nothing special. Why does my Heavenly Father care for me so clearly and constantly but not for you? I know He wants to do for you as He does for me. What's your problem, do you think? Pride, maybe? Anger and bitterness, perhaps? Possibly a lack of trust? All of these things?

Hebrews 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

1 Peter 5:6-7
6 Therefore humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God, that He may exalt you in due time,
7 casting all your care upon Him, for He cares for you.

1 John 4:16-19
16 And we have known and believed the love that God has for us. God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him.
17 Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world.
18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love.
19 We love Him because He first loved us.

derpytia said:
I don't even know why I still have faith or still pray to God at this point because it avails me nothing. God never does anything. He never helps. He never shows up. He never talks to me. He never brings a single good thing into my life or the lives of people around me.

God never does anything? Except humiliate Himself in becoming a man, dying on a cross to redeem you from the punishment your sin deserves, and giving you a future eternal home with Him, you mean. We can ignore all the glorious sunsets He has made, and the delicious food He has given to us, and the comfortable beds in which we sleep, and the medicine from which we benefit, and the peace and freedom we enjoy every day, right? That stuff (and countless more besides) from God we can just dismiss, I guess.

Matthew 12:34-37
34...For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.
35 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things.
36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment.
37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."

Gwen-is-new! · Mar 20, 2018

You said - "I don't even know why I still have faith or still pray to God at this point because it avails me nothing. God never does anything. He never helps. He never shows up. He never talks to me. He never brings a single good thing into my life or the lives of people around me"

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I think He is holding on to you. He is sustaining your faith, right here, right now. I believe He is speaking to you now through people in this thread. He speaks to you through all these scriptures being quoted in this blog.

Phil 1:21 · Mar 20, 2018

“I have worked much harder, been in prison more frequently, been flogged more severely, and been exposed to death again and again. 24 Five times I received from the Jews the forty lashes minus one.25 Three times I was beaten with rods, once I was pelted with stones, three times I was shipwrecked, I spent a night and a day in the open sea, 26 I have been constantly on the move. I have been in danger from rivers, in danger from bandits, in danger from my fellow Jews, in danger from Gentiles; in danger in the city, in danger in the country, in danger at sea; and in danger from false believers. 27 I have labored and toiled and have often gone without sleep; I have known hunger and thirst and have often gone without food; I have been cold and naked. 28 Besides everything else, I face daily the pressure of my concern for all the churches. 2 Corinthians 11:23b-28

10 I rejoiced greatly in the Lord that at last you renewed your concern for me. Indeed, you were concerned, but you had no opportunity to show it.11 I am not saying this because I am in need, for I have learned to be content whatever the circumstances. 12 I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want. 13 I can do all this through him who gives me strength. Philippians 4:10-13

Kristen Davis · Mar 21, 2018

derpytia said:
I'm sorry this is a rant but I am absolutely mad at Him. I'm so incredibly furious and heartbroken and He knows it. I know that in order to have us love Him of our free will he had to let Satan have his rebellion. But He should have never ever created humans to begin with. He should have never ever created us living human beings. God doesn't even need us! If He never created us He'd be fine. He wouldn't be lonely and He is complete within Himself as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. He literally never needed us at all. He never needed anyone.

How could He just create living beings knowing how fragile, vulnerable, and prone we are? How could he be so selfish like that? We are His creation and yet He never protected us at all costs. What father wouldn't rescue his children from danger no matter the cost? We are nothing but individuals playing out our little parts in the grand cosmic drama and trial that is life on earth and to know that hurts more than anything.

Not once has He ever answered a single one of my prayers, even when they were pure and unselfish. Not once has He ever answered one of my mother's prayers. Every single time we have cried out to Him over the course of our lives for help and comfort and guidance He has turned away from us. We have been put through more sorrow, misery, and doom than most people and we never recover from any of it. And none of it was our fault!

It was not my fault I was born defective. It was not my fault my father decided to become an alcoholic and abusive and eventually leave and never take responsibility. It was not my fault that a surgery failed leaving me with glaucoma and dashing my chances of seeing out of two eyes forever. It was not my fault that I was bullied and tormented all through elementary and middle school. It was not my fault that I developed hearing loss and the most severe case of tinnitus I have ever heard of. It is not my fault that I got visual snow and PCOS and chronic depression and anxiety.

It was not my mother's fault that she was born paralyzed. It was not her fault that her parents didn't love or care about her or that her father wanted nothing to do with her. It wasn't her fault that she was raped and molested and no one believed her. It wasn't her fault that her mother treated her horribly. It wasn't her fault that when she tried to rescue a friend that she was beate and raped. It wasn't her fault her first love left her because of some rumors spread by her own father that weren't true. It wasn't her fault that her first husband cheated on her and treated her terribly. It wasn't her fault her second husband became an abusive alcoholic. It wasn't her fault that her child was born defective. It was not her fault that she developed chronic back pain so bad that she can barely move around.

None of this was our fault and we deserved none of this!! Yet God let the devil have his way with us with no consequences and no rescue! We cry out to Him daily and He never ever rescues us. He never ever does anything ever!! So many people on this earth who are suffering so terribly without end cry out to Him to save them and He never comes. He never shows up when we need Him most. He never rescues anyone.

Even now when I need him to rescue me the most He is silent. What good is His love for me if I am to never experience the benefits of it while alive? If that's the case then just let me die already! Let me know the peace of death so that I will not have to suffer with no help or rescue anymore. Let Jesus come now so that no one will have to suffer anymore and we can all go home and the devil can pay for everything that he's ever done to humankind. Don't think I'm not mad at the devil too because I am. He's no good and rotten and should have been obliterated before he could open his mouth. He has harmed so many people with no consequences. He laughs in our face and in God's face with no punishment so he keeps on doing wrong. I would rather serve God out of fear than love because at least I'd know to obey and nothing bad would happen to me because God would still love me.

I don't even know why I still have faith or still pray to God at this point because it avails me nothing. God never does anything. He never helps. He never shows up. He never talks to me. He never brings a single good thing into my life or the lives of people around me.

None of this is my fault no matter what sins I've committed. I am supposed to be forgiven through Jesus Christ. Yet I will never have any peace inside or out. God has forsaken us all and He has forsaken me. What good is true love when there is no action to accompany it?

What are your prayers when you pray? Do you acknowledge the way you pray, because a prayer is supposed to be for healing and restoration instead of lack of personal gain.

Sarah Alias · Mar 24, 2018

discipler7 said:
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God was not testing Job's faith by purposely permitting Satan to torment him and his family.

Job had ignorantly sinned against God by making a vile offering to God, in case his spoiled sons might commit sins/evil-deeds.(JOB.1:5) Job greatly feared losing all his hard-earned blessings or prosperity from God through his good works.(JOB.1:8 & 3:25)

In a sense, Job was trying to buy Prosperity Insurance from God, ie make offering to insure his prosperity against his sons' sins. About 400 years later, at EXODUS.20:5, God revealed to Moses that only the fathers' sins would befall on the sons, and not the other way round. So, Job had worried for nothing.
....... Baseless and ignorant fears, worries and phobias(from Satan.?) can prompt people to do foolish things.

Even though Job did not understand why he was in torment, he repented for demanding an answer from God and kept the faith = he was eventually healed and doubly blessed by God = would be saved from hell when he died.(see 1PETER.3:19 & 4:6)
....... In comparison, his wife probably lost faith, cursed God and died.(JOB.2:9)

In Ezekiel 14:13-14 God says, "Son of man, when a land sins against me be acting faithlessly, and I stretch out my hand against it and break its supply of bread and send famine upon it, and cut off from it man and beast, even if these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they would deliver but their own lives by their righteousness, declares the Lord GOD." If Job were not an example of righteousness why is he listed as such by God?

It is true that Job made sacrifices on behave of his sons, but it does not give his motive nor does it say that God condemned him for doing so. "And when the days of the feast had run their course, Job would send and consecrate them, and he would rise early in the morning and offer burnt offerings according to the number of them all." I would think that Job did this because he cared about his sons and desired that they honor God just as he did, just like how Christian parents take their children to church with them. Yes it is true that a person needs to love and follow God himself and a parent cannot do this for a child, and so you could say that Job was wrong in this, but the text does not make that clear. The other verses you mentioned also do not lead to the idea that Job was only concerned with riches and getting God to bless him. That was Satan's claim against him. "Does Job fear God for no reason? Have you not put a hedge around him and his house and all that he has, on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land. But stretch out your hand and touch all that he has, and he will curse you to your face." (Job 1:9-10) So God gave Satan permission to take away Job's material wealth in order to prove that Job feared God rightly and not because of personal gain. As soon as job had lost all his sheep and his livestock and all his children were dead and most of his servants as well, "Then Job arose and tore his robe and shaved his head and fell on the ground and WORSHIPED. And he said, 'Naked I came from my mother's womb, and naked shall I return. The LORD gave, and the LORD has taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD.' In all this Job did not sin or charge God with wrong." (Job 1:20-22) After losing all he had, he still worshiped God, so no, he did not fear God just for what God would do for him.
You could say that Job's sin is that though initially he did not charge God with wrong, he did eventually put God in the wrong when he tried to justify his own righteousness to his friends. Elihu rebukes Job saying, "Job has said, 'I am in the right, and God has taken away my right; in spite of my right I am counted a liar; my wound is incurable, though I am without transgression.' " (Job 34:5-6) This was to charge God with injustice. In a sense Job had brought down God to his level and failed to recognize the majesty and authority that belonged to God alone. That is why in Job 38 God answers Job and declares his glory and power, going on for several chapters to demonstrate that He is God and Job is not. Despite this, it is Job's three friends whom God is most displeased with. "After the LORD had spoken these words to Job, the LORD said to Eliphaz the Temanite: "My anger burns against you and against your two friends, for you have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has. Now therefore take seven bulls and seven rams and go to my servant Job and offer up a burnt offering for yourselves. And my servant Job shall pray for you, for I will accept his prayer not to deal with you according to your folly. For you have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has." (Job 42:7-8) (As a side note: God's commanding Job's three friends to go to Job with their sacrifices so that Job could pray for them sounds somewhat familiar to how Job used to send and consecrate his sons and make offerings on their behalf. It is at least very similar.)

So it would appear that in the midst of Job's suffering, he had a low view of God (would anyone of us have done better?), but yet he did not speak lies against God or curse God like his friends and his wife (respectively) did. All people sin, and I'm sure Job is no exception, but God does not appear to have been punishing him for a specific evil deed, but more of a way of teaching.

discipler7 · Mar 24, 2018

Sarah Alias said:
If Job were not an example of righteousness why is he listed as such by God?

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A righteous man does not mean that he is immune from committing sins/evil-deeds/law-breaking, especially ignorant and unintentional sins.(1JOHN.1:8-9)
....... Righteous Abraham and Sarai had sinned against God by having an illegitimate son, Ishmael, with their slave-girl, Hagai. = Ishmael, the ancestral father of Arabs and Muslims, became a thorn for the Jews and Christians. Righteous Moses had also sinned against God by angrily striking the Rock of water = he could not enter into the Promised Land.(Joshua did)

According to LEVITICUS.4, unintentional and ignorant sins could be atoned for or forgiven by God without the need to undergo the punishment/curse of God, but not so for intentional or premeditated sins, ie intentional sins could not be forgiven by God = the sinners/evildoers would have to undergo the relevant punishment/curse of God, even if they had repented.(DEUT.28:15, 1JOHN.5:16-19, HEBREWS.10:26-31, 1COR.5:5 & 11:30) Eg for murdering Uriah, the husband of Bathsheba, King David had to see some of his sons being murdered as the punishment/curse from God.

Nevertheless, God/Jesus has the authority and discretion to even forgive or pardon intentional sins that were committed by sinners who later repented, eg the healings, exorcisms and miracles performed by Jesus Christ and God's prophets.
....... Similarly, the President of the US/POTUS has the authority to pardon convicted criminals who have repented and release them from their sufferings.

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