Would someone like to help me with my biblestudy verses? Help

thewayforme said:

Yes, I looked again and the reading will be chronologically, which I had to look up to see that is means "in order of occurrence"

Yes, I agree on your next post as well. I know that the sacrifices were done to atone for sin in the Old Testament, and there was the time when Abraham was asked to sacrifice his son Isaac. And I know that God did provide a goat I think it was, tangled in a bush, to take the place of Isaac.

Anyway, I'm wandering a bit here, but what I'm trying to find is some info on why Numbers, and the instruction to Moses would be as they are, several days, and so many animals. I imagine it had to do with showing the people it had to truly be a sacrifice, a real hardship and loss for them to atone for their sins. I mean if I look at Jesus, what a sacrifice He was, I can't put it in words it was so great a sacrifice

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Yes, that's it. You got it. Always relate the Old with the New (Jesus).

The animal sacrifices like the Passover Lamb pointed us to Jesus Christ and His sacrifice.

Even the death and resurrection of Jesus can be seen in Abraham offering up his only son Isaac. Hebrews 11 says that Abraham believed God was going to resurrect Isaac. Hence, why he was willing to obey God and sacrifice his son (Which is a parallel of God the Father offering up his Son (the Word made flesh) Jesus for us). Keep Jesus always as your focus when studying these verses and you will always be on the right track.

thewayforme said:

I read it, honest, but these books, chapters, and verses are always hard for me. But I'll be meeting with other ladies tonight at a biblestudy and planned on reading a couple of commentaries today, but hey, I remembered I now have christians online that can give me input

So here are the verses that I need to really get a good understanding of, or the best I can anyway. I will pray over this post, and ask God to help me through His Holy Spirit to understand what He would have me learn. Then I do hope to hear from any of you that have the time I do understand "why" God's instructions for sacrifice were given, and how sin requires the blood for forgiveness. I'm just putting it in my own words so feel free to explain sacrifice differently than I just did.

My main question is why so much sacrifice, and over and over for so many days. I also notice how the "number" of bulls were less and less for a time. Anyway, I will just post the verses from the book of Numbers:

Ok, that's a lot of verses, so I'm just going to post "which" verses I read. This is evidently a chronological reading of the bible in one year.

Numbers 28:16 (NKJV)

Numbers 29:1 (NKJV)

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Whenever I am stuck, I like reading Warren W. Wiersby's Commentary.

I do not agree with Pastor Wiersby on everything he believes or teaches, but I do like a lot of his comments on Scripture. Here are his comments on the verses you are interested in.








Source:
https://www.amazon.com/Wiersbe-Bible-Commentary-Vol-Commentaries/dp/0781445418/

thewayforme said:

Yes, I looked again and the reading will be chronologically, which I had to look up to see that is means "in order of occurrence"

Yes, I agree on your next post as well. I know that the sacrifices were done to atone for sin in the Old Testament, and there was the time when Abraham was asked to sacrifice his son Isaac. And I know that God did provide a goat I think it was, tangled in a bush, to take the place of Isaac.

Anyway, I'm wandering a bit here, but what I'm trying to find is some info on why Numbers, and the instruction to Moses would be as they are, several days, and so many animals. I imagine it had to do with showing the people it had to truly be a sacrifice, a real hardship and loss for them to atone for their sins. I mean if I look at Jesus, what a sacrifice He was, I can't put it in words it was so great a sacrifice

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I like to keep this handy when I am reading...... It helps me relate events, one to another,


Timeline of The Story*
1 Creation: The Beginning of Life as We Know It
Creation... Noah and the Flood... Abram born (2166)
2 God Builds a Nation
Abram moves to Canaan (2091)
Isaac born (2066)
Abraham offers Isaac (2050)
Rebekah gives birth to Jacob and Esau (2006)
Abraham dies (1991)
Rachel gives birth to Joseph (1915)
Isaac dies (1886)
3 Joseph: From Slave to Deputy Pharaoh
Joseph sold into slavery in Egypt (1898)
Jacob and family settle in Egypt (1876)
Jacob dies (1859)
Joseph dies (1805)
4 Deliverance
Moses is born (1526)
God sends the plagues (1446)
The exodus, Red Sea crossed (1446)
Wilderness wanderings, God sends quail and manna (1446–1406)
5 New Commands and a New Covenant
Moses receives the Ten Commandments (1445)
Moses spends 40 days and 40 nights on Mount Sinai (1445)
Aaron and the golden calf (1445)
Building of the tabernacle (1445)
6 Wandering
Wilderness wanderings, God sends quail and manna(1446–1406)
Spies sent to Canaan (1443)
Aaron dies (1406)
sraelites camp in the plains of Moab (1406)
Moses dies (1406)
7 The Battle Begins
Joshua appointed leader (1406)
Israelites enter Canaan (1406)
Conquest of Canaan (1406–1375)
Joshua dies (1375)
8 A Few Good Men ... and Women
Judges begin to rule (1375)
Deborah’s rule (1209–1169)
Gideon’s rule (1162–1122)
Samson’s rule (1075–1055)
9 The Faith of a Foreign Woman
Time of the judges (1375–1050)
Naomi and Ruth return from Moab
Ruth meets Boaz
Boaz marries Ruth
10 Standing Tall, Falling Hard
Hannah gives birth to Samuel (1105)
Samuel ministers under Eli
The Israelites ask for a king
Saul’s reign (1050–1010)
11 From Shepherd to King
Samuel anoints David (1025)
David kills Goliath (1025)
Saul repeatedly tries to kill David
Saul dies (1010)
David named king (1010)
12 The Trials of a King
David’s reign (1010–970)
David commits adultery with Bathsheba
Solomon’s reign (970–930)
Building of the temple (966–959)
13 The King Who Had It All
David dies (970)
Solomon’s reign (970–930)
Solomon displays great wisdom
Building of the temple (966–959)
Solomon marries foreign wives and betrays God
14 A Kingdom Torn in Two
Division of the kingdom (930)
King Jeroboam I of Israel reigns (930–909)
King Rehoboam of Judah reigns (930–913)
King Ahab of Israel reigns (874–853)
King Jehoshaphat of Judah (872–848)
15 God’s Messengers
Elijah’s ministry in Israel (875–848)
Elisha’s ministry in Israel (c. 848–797)
Amos’s ministry in Israel (760–750)
Hosea’s ministry in Israel (750–715)
16 The Beginning of the End (of the Kingdom of Israel)
Fall of Israel (722)
Exile of Israel to Assyria (722)
Isaiah’s ministry in Judah (740–681)
Hezekiah’s reign (715–686)
17 The Kingdoms’ Fall
Manasseh’s reign (697–642)
Amon’s reign (642–640)
Josiah’s reign (640–609)
Jeremiah’s ministry in Judah (626–585)
Jehoiakim’s reign (609–598)
Zedekiah’s reign (597–586)
Ezekiel’s ministry (593–571)
Fall of Jerusalem (586)
18 Daniel in Exile
Daniel exiled to Babylon (605)
Daniel’s ministry (605–536)
Nebuchadnezzar’s reign (605–562)
Daniel and the lions’ den (539)
Fall of Babylon (539)
19 The Return Home
First return of exiles to Jerusalem (538)
Ministries of Haggai and Zechariah (520– 480)
Exiles face opposition in building the temple
Temple restoration completed (516)
20 The Queen of Beauty and Courage
Xerxes’ reign in Persia (486–465)
Esther becomes queen of Persia (479)
Esther saves the Jews from Haman’s murderous plot
Days of Purim are established
21 Rebuilding the Walls
Second return of exiles to Jerusalem under Ezra (458)
Last group of exiles return to Jerusalem under Nehemiah (445)
Exiles face opposition in rebuilding the wall
Jerusalem’s wall rebuilt (445)
Malachi’s ministry (c. 440–430)
22 The Birth of the King
Mary gives birth to Jesus the Messiah (6/5)
Joseph, Mary and Jesus’ flight to Egypt (5/4)
Jesus’ visit to the temple (AD 7/8)
23 Jesus’ Ministry Begins
John the Baptist begins ministry (26)
Jesus baptized (26)
Jesus begins ministry (26)
Wedding at Cana (27)
The woman at the well (27)
John the Baptist imprisoned (27/28)
24 No Ordinary Man
Jesus begins ministry (26)
Jesus uses parables to teach (26)
Jesus gives Sermon on the Mount (28)
Jesus sends closest followers out to preach (28)
John the Baptist dies (28/29)
Jesus feeds 5,000 people (29)
Jesus proclaims himself as the bread of life (28)
25 Jesus, the Son of God
Jesus begins ministry (26)
Jesus teaches at the Mount of Olives (29)
Jesus resurrects Lazarus (29)
Jesus drives the money changers from the temple (30)
Judas betrays Jesus (30)
26 The Hour of Darkness
The Lord’s Supper (30)
Jesus washes his disciples’ feet
Jesus comforts his disciples
Jesus is arrested
Peter denies Jesus
Jesus is crucified
27 The Resurrection
Jesus is buried (30)
Jesus is resurrected
Jesus appears to Mary Magdalene and the disciples
28 New Beginnings
Jesus’ ascension (30)
Coming of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost
Paul believed in Jesus as the promised Messiah (35)
James martyred, Peter imprisoned (44)
Paul’s first missionary journey (46–48)
29 Paul’s Mission
Paul’s first missionary journey (46–48)
Jerusalem Council (49–50)
Paul’s second missionary journey (50–52)
Paul’s third missionary journey (53–57)
30 Paul’s Final Days
Paul’s first imprisonment in Rome (59–62)
Paul’s second imprisonment in Rome and execution (67–68)
John exiled on Patmos (90–95)
31 The End of Time
John becomes a disciple (26)
John exiled on Patmos (90–95)
Revelation written (95)

* Dates are approximate and dependent on the interpretative theories of various scholars.

thewayforme said:

AMEN on Charles Spurgeons quote in your signature.

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While Spurgeon's words here may sound good, I would be careful of following other things that Spurgeon says. He says Calvinism is the gospel. However, the gospel is defined for us in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, etc.

thewayforme said:

Thank you for this Jason, I like using a commentary on occasion, but at the same time, I realize it is another person's "take" on what it is saying, so yes, I don't take commentaries as gospel, and I also don't agree on everything, every time I'll try and take a look at this a little later. I still haven't broken from the discussion because it has been so good for me God bless you, Denise

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You are most welcome.

May God bless you today, as well.

thewayforme said:

Yes, this is what I learned some years back, how "much" of a sacrifice it had to be. God never asked for "what you can live without" He asked for the BEST of your resources didn't He. Don't want to go into another topic, but this helped me to understand why with Cain and Abel's sacrifices, well, one was much more sacrificial, and hope I am correct in that understanding. Thank you Willie

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Maybe "Yes" and maybe "No" on that. A lot of preachers claim God was irked with Cain because he didn't bring an animal. But, we have not one single word on what God said to sacrifice... in fact, we have no text at all saying He ever even told them to sacrifice.

When you read the NT, referring back to that incident, it seems to indicate God had more of a problem with Cain's "attitude" than He did about what it might have been that he brought.

In fact, if he had brought an animal, he would have had to have gotten it from his brother (probably for free) so it would have been even less of a hardship for him. As it was, at least he labored in the field to get those crops he brought.

It is worth noting the GOD gave these elaborate rituals. There is NO WAY you can say that God doesn't care about religion and liturgy.

thewayforme said:

I thought that the "sacrifice" did take away sin.

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Well, I understand that the animal sacrifices could not take away sins. But the sacrifice of Jesus does. I understand that the sacrifice of Jesus can cover for sins of people of early scripture times, if they desired to be forgiven and were putting the LORD first.

But it is not only the action of the suffering and dying, which makes it work. It is who Jesus is and how He gave Himself for us. Jesus Himself pleased our Heavenly Father to forgive us and reconcile with us.

"For He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world." (1 John 2:2)

Because of how Jesus is . . . as God's own Son . . . He is pleasing enough to make propitiation for all of our sins and "for the whole world."

And, by the way, I would say this helps to support that Jesus is divine. I do not think someone less than God could be pleasing enough to satisfy God to be willing to forgive all our sins plus the sins of "the whole world."