Genesis 6:1-4 and Jude 6&7 what do these passages mean? Why should we care?

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SC got it wrong -----

Cain was possessed (evil influence) by Satan ....

Do you have an issue with STRONG CONCORDANCE ?
In Strong Concordance

1. Cain = "possession"

A. Eldest son of Adam and Eve and the first murderer having murdered his brother Abel

---->That is the definition that i Agree With ....

The KJV translates Strong's H7014 in the following manner: Cain (17x), Kenite (1x).
י Qêynîy, kay-nee'; or קִינִי Qîynîy; , patronymic from H7014; a Kenite or member of the tribe of Kajin:—Kenite.
What is strongs concordance, I assume it is a reference, who validated it
 
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Genesis was written in Hebrew ....Strong Concordance KJV give the Hebrew definition.
OK thanx Riberra I've seen it referenced forever but never looked it up or cared, probably seen many references but didn't pay attention . Sounds weird I know
 
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Genesis was written in Hebrew ....Strong Concordance KJV give the Hebrew definition.
I'm such a poor and slow reader that I can't afford to just read anything .. I remember trying to read pages in the Bible and by the 3rd paragragh had no clue what the previous two said , over and over for long periods of time my mind wandering then getting back focused getting frustrated and getting no where it seemed , hours of prayer.. But now sometimes it flows and when it does I ain't wasting it on something else
 
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I have a question. How many were delivered from death by the flood of Noah?
8 Peoples ....Noah and his wife ....Japhet and his wife ...Shem and his wife ...Ham and his wife ...

What makes you believe that it is impossible that one of the 3 wife of the 3 sons of Noah can be a Kenite descendants of Cain ?
 
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8 Peoples ....Noah and his wife ....Japhet and his wife ...Shem and his wife ...Ham and his wife ...

What makes you believe that it is impossible that one of the tree wife of the tree sons of Noah can be a Kenite descendants of Cain ?
But we only know the paternal line .. And we don't know of Noah's mother or any back until Seth
 
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Naamah daughter of Lamech Genesis 4:22

The name Naamah comes from the verb נעם (naem) meaning be pleasant, sweet, delightful, beautiful:
So how is she relevant to our discussion?
 
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If only 8 were delivered from the flood in the ark, I think it is safe to say that all of Cain's line died in the Flood of Noah. The bloodline of Noah was perfect . That means genetically his line was not polluted.
 
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If only 8 were delivered from the flood in the ark, I think it is safe to say that all of Cain's line died in the Flood of Noah. The bloodline of Noah was perfect . That means genetically his line was not polluted.

Hams wife is the one that caried the line.
 
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If only 8 were delivered from the flood in the ark, I think it is safe to say that all of Cain's line died in the Flood of Noah. The bloodline of Noah was perfect . That means genetically his line was not polluted.
Not polluted by the irruption of the Fallen Angels mating with human womans ...Genesis 6:1-4

The 3 Sons of Noah and their wifes bare children AFTER the flood ....we know that HAM lineage became a Godless and Worldly power Genesis 10:6-20-----these are them who lived in the land of Canaan ----

Who were the sons of Noah, and what happened to them and their descendants?


That it was in the Land of Canaan that the second irruption of Fallen Angels mating with humans woman have occurred after the flood Numbers 13:33 ....

The Nephilim, or Giants of Gen. 6, &c. - Appendix to the Companion Bible

Sodom and Gomorrah were located in the Land of Canaan ....Can you see a pattern ?
My theory is
that mostly all the males in Sodom and Gomorrah became homosexual because the women preferred mating with the fallen angels (strange flesh])-----that they considered to be gods.

And Genesis 15:19 mention the KENITES AFTER THE FLOOD...
Genesis 15:19
19 the Kenite, and the Kenizzite, and the Kadmonite,

3 options :
1-The Kenites were good swimmers.
2- Noah Flood was not Global.
3-One of the 3 wifes of the 3 sons of Noah was a Kenite descendants of Cain.

Who were the sons of Noah, and what happened to them and their descendants?

Now the other thing to consider:
It is probable that God have made in sort that the lineage [first male at least] from Seth to Noah listed in Genesis 5 have not mated with Cain descendants to keep [ADAM ---SETH lineage pure] ....that explain why it took them so long for having their first child...God pushed them to select their wife among [females cousin] after that Adam begin to bare daughters AFTER THAT SETH WAS Born
Genesis 5
3 And Adam lived a hundred and thirty years, and begat [a son] in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth: 4 and the days of Adam after he begat Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters.


6 And Seth lived a hundred and five years, and begat Enosh: 7 and Seth lived after he begat Enosh eight hundred and seven years, and begat sons and daughters: 8 and all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he died.

9 And Enosh lived ninety years, and begat Kenan.
 
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If only 8 were delivered from the flood in the ark, I think it is safe to say that all of Cain's line died in the Flood of Noah. The bloodline of Noah was perfect . That means genetically his line was not polluted.


Genesis 6:9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.


towldah
to-led-aw'
or toldah {to-led-aw'}; from 'yalad' (3205); (plural only) descent, i.e. family; (figuratively) history:--birth, generations.


dowr
dore
or (shortened) dor {dore}; from 'duwr' (1752); properly, a revolution of time, i.e. an age or generation; also a dwelling:--age, X evermore, generation, (n-)ever, posterity.



It seems to me if bloodline was meant per this part--- Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations---the text would have said---Noah was a just man and perfect in his towldah---rather than---Noah was a just man and perfect in his dowr
 
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