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I once read a fictional book that postulated that the 'Q' was actually a present day man that went back in time and was eye witness to what happened during that time.
Did he look like John de Lancie?
 
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Josephus was a Hebrew.
Ah,,yeah, that is why I said Luke was the Gentile version of him, Josephus was a historian who was born a Jew, tried out all the various sects and eventually went to Rome (Gentiles). Luke is about the opposite of that
 
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If I were to put it in the order of the OP I would put

Revelation first
then the
Gospels
Then it's up in the air after that. :)

If it were chronological @Heber Book List it wouldn't be as the list in the OP. Job is said to be the oldest written. :)
The revelation message came last, perhaps around 96 AD , or a little before.
 
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Did he look like John de Lancie?

I don't recall the description of the man, it's been a few years.

I had to look that up though, funny. I'm not a Star Trek or Wars fan so I didn't get it until I googled it. :)
 
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Ah,,yeah, that is why I said Luke was the Gentile version of him, Josephus was a historian who was born a Jew, tried out all the various sects and eventually went to Rome (Gentiles). Luke is about the opposite of that
I do not think a person stops being a Hebrew because they live elsewhere.
 
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I had to look that up though, funny
After playing Q the all powerful on STNG, he played Bekka Valentine's Uncle Sid on Adromeda.

I once wrote a fan fic Andromeda story where Uncle Sid was Q.
 
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If I were to put it in the order of the OP I would put

Revelation first
then the
Gospels
Then it's up in the air after that. :)

If it were chronological @Heber Book List it wouldn't be as the list in the OP. Job is said to be the oldest written. :)


Not sure what you are saying here?
 
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Do you have any facts to back that up?

As many facts as we have that John wrote the 4th gospel. It is an issue of some debate with no acceptable proof as an answer. However, the larger number of scholars accept that he was a Gentile, writing to another Gentile. There is nothing in his writings to support the view that he was a Jew. In fact, his need to carefully investigate everything would appear to mean that he could not have written, as he did, without the major research that he did to produce both books. We read little, if anything, extra in his writings as we read in the other three gospels, although we know he, like Matthew, borrowed a lot from Mark and also a significant amount from 'Q'. He is included in the bible because he tells us about Yeshua's birth in some detail - without that we would only have Matthew's exceptionally brief account, and he bridges the gap from gospel to Paul. Paul, who wrote before the gospels were written, tells us nothing about Yeshua's actual birth, surprisingly; even though he wasn't there one might think he would 'justify' his works by including that matter!
 
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As many facts as we have that John wrote the 4th gospel. It is issue of some debate with no acceptable proof as an answer. However, the larger number of scholars accept that he was a Gentile, writing to another Gentile. There is nothing in his writings to support the view that he was a Jew. In fact, his need to carefully investigate everything would appear to mean that he could not have written, as he did, without the major research that he did to produce both books. We read little, if anything, in his writings as we read in the other three gospels, although we know he, like Matthew, borrowed a lot from Mark and also a significant amount from 'Q'. He is included in the bible because he tells us about Yeshua's birth in some detail - without that we would only have Matthew, exceptionally brief account, and bridges the gap from gospel to Paul. Paul, who wrote before the gospels were written, tells us nothing about Yeshua's actual birth, surprisingly, even though he was't there; one might think he would 'justify' his works by including that matter!
Thank you for your reply.
 
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